FFG has a new article that spells out formats and their rotation schedule. Rotation is every 2 years about and it rotates out the oldest "Cycle" of Cards. An Example is that Awakengins through EAW will cycle out of standard play in the fall of 2018 or early 2019. The current 2 cycles will make up what is "Standard" Format play. In addition there is Trilogy play, which consists of product that is part of the most recent cycle released, this will start with Legacy Trilogy when Legacy launches. Last is Infinite which as the name suggests means everything is game to be used.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/11/8/swd-what-lies-ahead/

Eh...if there's ONE thing I liked about Hearthstone it's that the base set is always standard playable

This made it easy for a new player to get right in, and I was hoping destiny would go the same route with its STARTER sets

It even has a "starter" rarity to easily distinguish the cards!

I'm a long time MTG player, so I'm not at all opposed to the idea of cycles. I would only have preferred it if the starter sets stayed evergreen, especially since the price and stock of destiny singles can get a little precarious

Two years seems a little aggressive given how few cards are made per year compared to other CCGs. Seems fair though.

What do they mean by the Star Wars Destiny Holocron? Is that going to be a deckbuilding app that helps you keep track of banlists/errata? Or is it just a fancy name for the Rules Reference?

12 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Two years seems a little aggressive given how few cards are made per year compared to other CCGs. Seems fair though.

What do they mean by the Star Wars Destiny Holocron? Is that going to be a deckbuilding app that helps you keep track of banlists/errata? Or is it just a fancy name for the Rules Reference?

It's a fancy name for a .pdf file that contains a list of all products legal for a particular Organized Play format.

13 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

What do they mean by the Star Wars Destiny Holocron? Is that going to be a deckbuilding app that helps you keep track of banlists/errata? Or is it just a fancy name for the Rules Reference?

The latter.

I am confused: The Standard format consists of the two most recent cycles and all products that are part of an unreleased cycle .

So wouldn't that mean that you have Awakenings, Legacies and Cycle 3 in play until the final set of cycle 3 releases? Rather than what is shown in the diagram?

7 minutes ago, Amanal said:

I am confused: The Standard format consists of the two most recent cycles and all products that are part of an unreleased cycle .

So wouldn't that mean that you have Awakenings, Legacies and Cycle 3 in play until the final set of cycle 3 releases? Rather than what is shown in the diagram?

I noticed this as well. Seems like someone can't count.

10 minutes ago, Amanal said:

I am confused: The Standard format consists of the two most recent cycles and all products that are part of an unreleased cycle .

So wouldn't that mean that you have Awakenings, Legacies and Cycle 3 in play until the final set of cycle 3 releases? Rather than what is shown in the diagram?

As far as I can tell, what they mean is that for peripheral products that release before the base set for a new cycle (like the 2-player starter), they are immediately legal and don't trigger rotation on their own. However, when the actual first set comes out in a cycle, that will trigger rotation.

It's definitely badly worded.

Also confused...

The way I read the "all products that are part of an unreleased cycle" is for items like the Two Player Game that are actually considered part of the next cycle even though they are released prior to the starters for that cycle.

Ninja'd

Two most recent rotations? really?

That is way too shallow, especially when theres a format using only the newest.

It should be the past 4 releases as standard. Actually it should be every year an announcement goes "These releases are now part of the standard" to really mix it up.

i think everyone will play infinite. Those other two are dumb.

1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:

Two most recent rotations? really?

That is way too shallow, especially when theres a format using only the newest.

It should be the past 4 releases as standard. Actually it should be every year an announcement goes "These releases are now part of the standard" to really mix it up.

i think everyone will play infinite. Those other two are dumb.

I think the problem is how they're defining "releases"

going by the image, a "release" is everything in the same color box

18 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I think the problem is how they're defining "releases"

going by the image, a "release" is everything in the same color box

Yeah, it’s pretty similar to most of their living products where every cycle has a unifier art basis

Does it say when the next set is after legacies, really wanna know if I just bought heavy into empire just for it to be null and void come may

4 minutes ago, Plymouthdean86 said:

Does it say when the next set is after legacies, really wanna know if I just bought heavy into empire just for it to be null and void come may

Awakenings cycle (Awakenings, Spirit of Rebellion, and Empire at War) will probably rotate out of standard in December of '18. Assuming they stick to their current release schedule of three sets a year, with the base set being released in December.

Welp, that was the fastest way to kill the game for me. This was a fun side game that I could also take my deck to competitive tournaments and play in. Can't do that anymore. Rotations are great for players who play this game multiple times every week and have it as their only game. I don't and I'm sure many others don't have that time to dedicate to that. The eternal format almost definitely won't be the tournament format of choice or the Worlds/National Championships format of choice so I guess I'm out. It was fun at least.

you can't do that anymore after the set after legacies is released, assuming you only have standard tournaments available

I know locally, Modern magic is incredibly popular (far more so than standard) and that has more sets than Destiny probably will in our lifetime

8 minutes ago, CBowser said:

Awakenings cycle (Awakenings, Spirit of Rebellion, and Empire at War) will probably rotate out of standard in December of '18. Assuming they stick to their current release schedule of three sets a year, with the base set being released in December.

That' not what the above image shows tho, it shows once the cycle after legacies hits, awakenings cycle drops off, that would be may unless we all think there will be more in legacies cycle

2 minutes ago, Plymouthdean86 said:

That' not what the above image shows tho, it shows once the cycle after legacies hits, awakenings cycle drops off, that would be may unless we all think there will be more in legacies cycle

• The Standard format consists of the two most recent cycles and all products that are part of an unreleased cycle .

So the next two sets released after Legacies will be part of the Legacies cycle. Awakenings cycle won't rotate out until the cycle after legacies starts.

Doesnt it say in the article that the 5 announced products are the legacy cycle

11 minutes ago, Plymouthdean86 said:

Doesnt it say in the article that the 5 announced products are the legacy cycle

Ok one more time...... A cycle consists of a pair of Starter Sets , the accompanying set of Booster Packs , two expansion sets of Booster Packs.

So Legacies consists of " pair of Starter Sets , the accompanying set of Booster Packs" then the rest of the cycle will be released in the form of two more expansions. Going by FFGs current release history, those two more expansions will be released in approx. 4 months and 8 months after the release of Legacies. Thus completing the Legacies cycle. Then, around December '18, the next unnamed cycle will start and Awakenings cycle will rotate out of standard. I can't lay it out any simpler than that, and this was all pulled from the article and time estimates are based on FFGs release history so far.

So really expansion 2 and 3 in any cycle aren't going to be active for a 2 full years in standard.

The CCG newbies are back at arms again! Magic has done this for twenty years successfully, and if you’re worried about things like electroshock never seeing light of day again, I’ve got news for you. Goodies from Awakenings that were good, but not too good, will see reprints in later cycles. They may be tweaked a bit from their predecessor (Slave I/Millenium Falcon for example, or the 2P starter characters) but they’ll be back. Just means those original prints will become more valuable in the collectors and eternity markets, much like older MtG cards do. This is healthy for a CCG to move forward and continue to thrive, whereas using the formats they do for X-Wing, Armada, and Imperial Assault will just choke the game off as newer product won’t be bought for Destiny. Also, as stated, until the next set of starters for the third cycle is released (the one AFTER Legacies), the Awakenings cycle will remain legal for standard (aka competitive) play. So don’t expect Awakenings/SoR/EAW to phase out until late 2018/early 2019.

Wow, rather aggressive for a cycle isn't it? I mean I expect that from Magic because it's MAGIC . This seems rather ambitious from FFG, especially as the company that made LCG popular. You'd think it would have a soft cycle time for its products.

Just realized a fun little fact..... We have ALREADY seen reprints. The 2 player set has Logistics, strategic Planning, Defensive stance, Evade, Flank, Parry, Doubt, Intimidate, Tactical Mastery that were reprinted from Awakenings so we can 100% guarantee that some cards will be reprinted as it has already happened since the 2 player set is officially part of the Legacies set we can guarantee already that those cards from awakenings will still be legal after Awakenings rotates out.