21 minutes ago, Tirion said:

60% increase over ay wing for a grit and a blue die... No thanks. A lot of people compare them to b wings which I think is the incorrect comparison. They have far more in common with y wings.

They're kind of a third thing, really.

They're analogous to the B-wing in that they're a high single-source bomber damage. But with Heavy, Grit, and high hull, they disregard squadron-on-squadron combat in favor of weathering defenses to get bombs on target, more like the Y-wing.

Which leaves them... kinda without a niche of their own.

The only home I've found for them is with Hera... And those points........

Does this make sense?

Where I can run Tie Bombers with Mauler, Dengar and Chiraneu, I could use Scurrgs, Jan and a YT1300 with Toryn boosted flak fields instead of Mauler. Maybe Ten.

Hmmmmm Ten has the same paradoxical synergy as Intel with grit.

Ten, Jan, YT1300 and 5x Scurrgs is 131 pts.

Add BCC and Yav and you have unholy bomber strikes or (short ranged) anti squad hits

3 hours ago, Tirion said:

60% increase over ay wing for a grit and a blue die... No thanks. A lot of people compare them to b wings which I think is the incorrect comparison. They have far more in common with y wings.

Two Y-Wings are 20 points for 2 black dice. Average 2 damage, 10 points per damage. One Scurrg is 16 points for 1 black, 1 blue dice. Average 1.75 damage, 9.14 points per damage. (Obviously, B-Wings are more damage-efficient than both.) You get Grit in the trade.

Although the math gets more complicated in context (eg, with Norra/BCC, or Toryn, etc).

The thing I like it's speed 3... That speed 2 b wing can cost you sometimes, and fct can't always make up for that... Speed can be the difference between blowing up a ship or not.

I go hera, 2 double dice bomber non rogues(gold, b, scrugg), ketsu, 2 Intel, whatever with leftovers...

Mass grit Intel seems interesting!

It is more Bomber focus which puts it above a B-wing and not jsut the range.

The B-wing has a bad habit of being slow and having better antifighter capabilities in an extra blue anti squadron die and lack of heavy. But given the slow speed you really wouldn't use it in an anti fighter roll.

Scurgs are the heavy bombers, they go after big ships.

B-wings are more like mines, you drop the in an area, and they can hurt anything that gets within their short reach making them okay area denial squadron.

Scurrg
Author: Ginkapo

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 400/400

Commander: General Dodonna

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Jamming Barrier
Navigation Objective: Navigational Hazards

Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57 points)
- Yavaris ( 5 points)
- Flight Commander ( 3 points)
- Fighter Coordination Team ( 3 points)
= 68 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Bright Hope ( 2 points)
- Toryn Farr ( 7 points)
= 27 total ship cost

GR-75 Combat Retrofits (24 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 32 total ship cost

GR-75 Combat Retrofits (24 points)
= 24 total ship cost

[ flagship ] CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- General Dodonna ( 20 points)
- Jainas Light ( 2 points)
= 66 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette B (39 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 52 total ship cost

1 YT-1300 ( 13 points)
3 Scurrg H-6 Bombers ( 48 points)
1 Gold Squadron ( 12 points)
1 Jan Ors ( 19 points)
1 Ten Numb ( 19 points)
1 Luke Skywalker ( 20 points)

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This is what I've been looking at. Something like:

Alt Bombers III (396/400)
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MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 49)
+ General Dodonna (20)
+ Lando Calrissian (4)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Assault Proton Torpedoes (5)
+ H9 Turbolasers (8)
+ Admonition (8)
Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57 + 11)
+ Flight Commander (3)
+ Fighter Coordination Team (3)
+ Yavaris (5)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 + 11)
+ Toryn Farr (7)
+ Jamming Field (2)
+ Bright Hope (2)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 + 10)
+ Hondo Ohnaka (2)
+ Slicer Tools (7)
+ Quantum Storm (1)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18 + 10)
+ Ahsoka Tano (2)
+ Bomber Command Center (8)
Hera Syndulla (28)
Han Solo (26)
Jan Ors (19)
2 x Scurrg H-6 Bomber (16)
2 x X-wing Squadron (13)
Most Wanted
Hyperspace assault
Superior Positions

This has been my favorite list for awhile. The Scurrgs work really well at getting more bang per squad activation compared to y-wings, and b-wings move too slow to keep up with the rest of the fleet. Sloane has been tougher to deal with since she's been out:

++ Standard (Rebel Fleet) [400pts] ++

+ Assault Frigate Mk II +

Assault Frigate Mark II B [86pts]: Boosted Comms, •Adar Tallon

+ CR90 Corvette +

CR90 Corvette A [79pts]: Turbolaser Reroute Circuits, •General Cracken, •Jaina's Light

CR90 Corvette A [51pts]: Turbolaser Reroute Circuits

+ GR-75 Transport Flotilla +

GR-75 Medium Transports [30pts]: Bomber Command Center, Boosted Comms

GR-75 Medium Transports [27pts]: Comms Net, •Toryn Farr

+ Squadrons +

HWK-290 [19pts]: •Jan Ors (Moldy Crow)

Scurrg H-6 Bomber [53pts]: 2x Scurrg H-6 Bomber, •Nym (Havoc)

X-Wing [39pts]: 3x X-Wing Squadron

YT-2400 [16pts]: YT-2400

+ Objectives +

Assault Objective: Most Wanted

Defense Objective: Capture the VIP

Navigation Objective: Intel Sweep

++ Total: [400pts] ++

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On 11/9/2017 at 3:51 AM, Megatronrex said:

People always forget about Grit. Such an underappreciated keyword.

I have won games all because people have forgotten about Grit

5 hours ago, CyborgNinja said:

This has been my favorite list for awhile. The Scurrgs work really well at getting more bang per squad activation compared to y-wings, and b-wings move too slow to keep up with the rest of the fleet. Sloane has been tougher to deal with since she's been out:

++ Standard (Rebel Fleet) [400pts] ++

+ Assault Frigate Mk II +

Assault Frigate Mark II B [86pts]: Boosted Comms, •Adar Tallon

+ CR90 Corvette +

CR90 Corvette A [79pts]: Turbolaser Reroute Circuits, •General Cracken, •Jaina's Light

CR90 Corvette A [51pts]: Turbolaser Reroute Circuits

+ GR-75 Transport Flotilla +

GR-75 Medium Transports [30pts]: Bomber Command Center, Boosted Comms

GR-75 Medium Transports [27pts]: Comms Net, •Toryn Farr

+ Squadrons +

HWK-290 [19pts]: •Jan Ors (Moldy Crow)

Scurrg H-6 Bomber [53pts]: 2x Scurrg H-6 Bomber, •Nym (Havoc)

X-Wing [39pts]: 3x X-Wing Squadron

YT-2400 [16pts]: YT-2400

+ Objectives +

Assault Objective: Most Wanted

Defense Objective: Capture the VIP

Navigation Objective: Intel Sweep

++ Total: [400pts] ++

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Get Gallant Haven on that AF2 and your Sloane problems will be significantly reduced.