1 hour ago, Cusm said:I think FFG has had it's staff go under the Assmodee microscope and knife and that is part of the problem with many of their franchises. Unfortunately Armada is not the only game to have it support be rather anemic in the last year.
I actually do wonder if they have a few too many irons in the fire and Asmodee is helping to push them too far.
They've added several games to their portfolio this year as well as rebooting net runner and adding L5R as a franchise.
Too many irons are okay if you are staffed for it. I know that some game runners left to other companies and at least one (L5R) was let go and another (SW:LCG) is no longer on that game but unknown if he is still internal or left. They have added a couple of people that I know of, both from the COMMUNITY!! but it seems like their staff is spread too thin and then there is the whole production capacity, we have seen years of issues with their production and now they have 2 new miniature games, and multiple new board games.
They're gonna do something inconvenient and release Wave 7 and Legion at the same time, aren't they?
I guess playing a bunch of Armada would give me time to paint.
more TI4 and L5R articles
I've been having a Twitter "conversation" with FFG making them aware of the malease. I say "conversation" because it's all one sided so far.
Edited by FoaS1 hour ago, FoaS said:more TI4 and L5R articles
I've been having a Twitter "conversation" with FFG making them aware of the malease. I say "conversation" because it's all one sided so far.
Thursday is release article day. Rarely more than that is given or expected today.
Now, tomorrow, that’s where expectations start.
At least we have something in the pipeline. Imperial Assault has now gone over a month since their last release and there's been zero news for anything.
7 minutes ago, thestag said:At least we have something in the pipeline. Imperial Assault has now gone over a month since their last release and there's been zero news for anything.
Imperial assault is Legion now. No, really. it is. No use fighting it.
And, don't get me wrong. I'm P i S S E D with what they have done with IA. That's what I have painted and bought the most of after Armada. They have released more campaign stuff for IA than they have skirmish, and with the Legion release, that REALLY confuses me, so. See sentence one....
4 minutes ago, thestag said:At least we have something in the pipeline. Imperial Assault has now gone over a month since their last release and there's been zero news for anything.
Unfortunately that doesn't make me feel any better. Instead it just shows that Armada isn't FFG's only neglected child.
4 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:Imperial assault is Legion now. No, really. it is. No use fighting it.
And, don't get me wrong. I'm P i S S E D with what they have done with IA. That's what I have painted and bought the most of after Armada. They have released more campaign stuff for IA than they have skirmish, and with the Legion release, that REALLY confuses me, so. See sentence one....
I really do feel for you Imperial assault guys. It sucks that they wont at least come out and officially say what kind of a future if any they have planned for IA
Just now, Megatronrex said:I really do feel for you Imperial assault guys. It sucks that they wont at least come out and officially say what kind of a future if any they have planned for IA
I believe the future of IA hinges on the success or failure of Legion. Hence why they won't officially kill IA, they can always fall back on it if Legion doesn't bring the following they hope.
I have put plenty of money into IA and Armada, so I'm not totally bothered by the lack of releases (my wallet is happy). But I won't be getting into Legion anytime soon, or probably ever. A selfish part of me hopes that Legion fails out of the gate to save IA. But there's no guarantee that will happen either...
Here's hoping Armada doesn't get a Legion of it's own.
1 minute ago, thestag said:I believe the future of IA hinges on the success or failure of Legion. Hence why they won't officially kill IA, they can always fall back on it if Legion doesn't bring the following they hope.
I have put plenty of money into IA and Armada, so I'm not totally bothered by the lack of releases (my wallet is happy). But I won't be getting into Legion anytime soon, or probably ever. A selfish part of me hopes that Legion fails out of the gate to save IA. But there's no guarantee that will happen either...
Here's hoping Armada doesn't get a Legion of it's own.
That reason for not saying anything makes sense, still doesn't excuse it though. I never bought into IA but I will with Legion at least through the first wave mainly because I want to combine it with Armada in a campaign. Not really bothered by the delay and releases just the silence from FFG. I don't blame you for being selfish and hoping Legion fails right out of the gate. If they ever gave Armada the same treatment I'd be hoping for failure with the new game also.
40 minutes ago, thestag said:I believe the future of IA hinges on the success or failure of Legion. Hence why they won't officially kill IA, they can always fall back on it if Legion doesn't bring the following they hope.
I have put plenty of money into IA and Armada, so I'm not totally bothered by the lack of releases (my wallet is happy). But I won't be getting into Legion anytime soon, or probably ever. A selfish part of me hopes that Legion fails out of the gate to save IA. But there's no guarantee that will happen either...
Here's hoping Armada doesn't get a Legion of it's own.
I think it unlikely, since in that sort of measure, Armada is kind-of X-Wing's "Legion" of sorts... Taking the core of the Skirmish-style game and turning it into an incompatible larger-scale system. The only difference, basically, is the prepainting still exists here.
I think more to the point though, is that there has been low-level-grumbling desire for a Star Wars Massed Miniatures Game for a good long while... And its finally happening... NOW, its up to see wether that low-level-grumbling was indeed a sign of a genuinely interested group, or just pining from a core...
1 hour ago, moodswing5537 said:Imperial assault is Legion now. No, really. it is. No use fighting it.
And, don't get me wrong. I'm P i S S E D with what they have done with IA. That's what I have painted and bought the most of after Armada. They have released more campaign stuff for IA than they have skirmish, and with the Legion release, that REALLY confuses me, so. See sentence one....
I will be honest and say that I HATE skirmish mode for IA. The power creep in the campaign is off putting and I just don't like the command card system all that much.
16 hours ago, Drasnighta said:I think it unlikely, since in that sort of measure, Armada is kind-of X-Wing's "Legion" of sorts... Taking the core of the Skirmish-style game and turning it into an incompatible larger-scale system. The only difference, basically, is the prepainting still exists here.
I think more to the point though, is that there has been low-level-grumbling desire for a Star Wars Massed Miniatures Game for a good long while... And its finally happening... NOW, its up to see wether that low-level-grumbling was indeed a sign of a genuinely interested group, or just pining from a core...
Star wars massed combat still hasn't happened. Legion is IA without a grid, and the ability to take more infantry, nothing more.
Xwing to Armada is an entire scale shift where the biggest units in xwing can be swarmed in armada. Comparing legion to IA, the AT-ST is still the largest unit available, which does nothing for fans wanting to run entire imperial armor battalions.
Yes, I'm bitter.
I'd blame the lack of armada attention on the development of legion. Ffg is using it to take on games workshop and 40k, so they want it to be good with a bright future.
Edited by Norsehound21 hours ago, Drasnighta said:Thursday is release article day. Rarely more than that is given or expected today.
Now, tomorrow, that’s where expectations start.
Welp...
Just now, FoaS said:Welp...
The silence is deafening. Will we even get an article before 2018 at this rate?
Just now, Tearscream said:The silence is deafening. Will we even get an article before 2018 at this rate?
I expect we will, actually, we have a month and a half yet - I just don't think we can safely expect anything else.
2 minutes ago, FoaS said:I expect we will, actually, we have a month and a half yet - I just don't think we can safely expect anything else.
The articles usually go up from FFG right around 3 or 4, so let's be calm a little. Armada always gets theirs later on in the day (and that is not a reason to start complaining)
1 minute ago, geek19 said:The articles usually go up from FFG right around 3 or 4, so let's be calm a little. Armada always gets theirs later on in the day (and that is not a reason to start complaining)
Nevermind me, runewars preview. In full of lies and slander.
Just now, geek19 said:The articles usually go up from FFG right around 3 or 4, so let's be calm a little. Armada always gets theirs later on in the day (and that is not a reason to start complaining)
Naw, I'm cool.
Like I said: I expect an article to come out by the end of the year - I doubt today, but sometime by end-of-year.
More than an article? Nah.
8 minutes ago, FoaS said:I expect we will, actually, we have a month and a half yet - I just don't think we can safely expect anything else.
I keep thinking its the end of November...
That being said, I am having trouble fathoming that lack of response to the complaints. I've seen absolutely horrible companies at least acknowledge complaints and off-channel announcements like our wave 7 delay. They did it poorly (Looking at you Wargaming, Inc), but they at least said something.
I'm actually really tempted to buy a Sunday ticket to Pax Unplugged, showing up, and saying "Yo guys, da fuq?"
Looking back at the last couple of weeks, Armada is still supported and will continue to be. However, it looks like the design team of this latest wave is either a bit green, incompetant or, more likely, not being given enough testing resource.
X-wing is still king in terms of sales and it is still a great game and simple to learn in comparison. Because of the mess up with the latest Armada wave they've bumped the next wave up the schedule.
IA is the one seemingly being treat like a leper. That stated, Descent is still alive.
Legion will be a success although it's 20 years too late for me. My days of having free time and good eyesight for painting minis is long gone at my young age of 47. Whether it is good enough to challenge 40k is unknown. For me it is the wrong scale and should have been 40k Epic scale. The main confusion is over the future of IA. I don't think they will drop it but slow down development. IA is the story telling tactical combat game, Legion is more for generic large land battles. IA is more cinematic....the OT focussed on a small group of Rebels facing hoardes of imperials. Having to keep Legion balanced will become contrived as they create semi-canon vehicles for the Rebels that they never had in the movies. Regardless, Legion will be a success but it would be a massive mistake to throw IA and Armada under the bus and annoy customers just make it a success with a slightly different demographic.
Edited by Gallanteer21 hours ago, moodswing5537 said:Imperial assault is Legion now. No, really. it is. No use fighting it.
And, don't get me wrong. I'm P i S S E D with what they have done with IA. That's what I have painted and bought the most of after Armada. They have released more campaign stuff for IA than they have skirmish, and with the Legion release, that REALLY confuses me, so. See sentence one....
I will never understand how they thought releasing something at nearly the same scale as IA was a good idea while there remains no viable scale for large battles like hoth. /wasted opportunity
Is it sad that the issues with FFG ignoring armada is pushing me into considering re-investing in 40k? I'll prob wait for the necron codex if i do but I might start fixing my old models i haven't used in 3/4 years up.