Facebook thread lit up pretty quickly. To me, this is a net negative for the game. The only thing that ought to be censored is this card.

A good idea with awful execution. The playtesters much have been frothing about this. For Fukurokujin's sake, please print a promo errata ASAP!

Discuss.

People are overreacting.

Heck of a lot of cancel effects running around....

1 minute ago, OsramTaleka said:

People are overreacting.

L5R players? Are you sure?

I guess I'm in the minority here, since my unpopular opinion is that this is a great card and I can't wait to use it.

7 minutes ago, Zesu Shadaban said:

I guess I'm in the minority here, since my unpopular opinion is that this is a great card and I can't wait to use it.

I haven't checked, but was Backhanded Compliment an Event?

Forgive me my impudence and the nerve to disagree, but I really do like the card. Great neutral card imho. Truly sorry about that.

I don't like the design of the card, but it doesn't break anything. Reactive cards are extremly efficient: Voice of Honor, Forged Edict, Let Go, Calling in Favors, Noble Sacrifice, Karada District etc. and Censure doesn't seem stronger than that.

Now crane, and scorpion to a lesser extent, can overuse cancel cards by having nine total. I say scorpion to a lesser extent as they are less likely to have more honored characters in general.

8 minutes ago, Tetsuro said:

I haven't checked, but was Backhanded Compliment an Event?

Why, yes. Yes it is.

what's not to like? It has great art, provides neutral cancel and makes players focus more on the favour.

why would crane want to run 9 event interrupts? Are you trying to make them easier to beat?

3 minutes ago, Matrim said:

what's not to like? It has great art, provides neutral cancel and makes players focus more on the favour.

why would crane want to run 9 event interrupts? Are you trying to make them easier to beat?

I wasn't saying they should, just that they can. But, since events usually make up a good chunk of conflict decks and often decide conflict resolution, at least in my local area, I can see reasons to run a bunch. A control deck may want access to a bunch of cancels. I may add a pair of censure into my scorpion deck I am brewing. Time will tell how much room to spare I will have in my conflict deck by the time the Imperial cycle is fully released

Just wait, next we're going to get an even more "broken" card and they'll add "this cannot be cancelled" just to mess with us.

I like it. Might go well with my Phoenix. Besides of "cancel event targeting your shugenja" we don't have much access to cancellation effects and this comes from a dynasty character who has to be in play, so my opponent not only knows its there but can easily play around it. And since the Imperial Favor is always a good option for us with the whole "boost a character's glory to get it"-routine (thx stronghold), this card becomes even more interesting. I can already see that my deck from today will look significantly different around the holidays.

49 minutes ago, Chupacabra52 said:

Now crane, and scorpion to a lesser extent, can overuse cancel cards by having nine total. I say scorpion to a lesser extent as they are less likely to have more honored characters in general.

I mean, if you have 9, is that too many?

2 minutes ago, kpsmith said:

I mean, if you have 9, is that too many?

At that point that is roughly a quarter of your deck...

Just now, Saibot said:

At that point that is roughly a quarter of your deck...

My thought process is if you have 9 cards dedicated to canceling events, you have 9 cards that don't accelerate your win condition.

44 minutes ago, Chupacabra52 said:

I wasn't saying they should, just that they can. But, since events usually make up a good chunk of conflict decks and often decide conflict resolution, at least in my local area, I can see reasons to run a bunch. A control deck may want access to a bunch of cancels. I may add a pair of censure into my scorpion deck I am brewing. Time will tell how much room to spare I will have in my conflict deck by the time the Imperial cycle is fully released

I am not seeing this. Crane/Scorpion decks don't play more than 5 cancels, because event cancels can lead to very awkward hands, especially against Dragon. I don't think that Scorpion is very hot on Censure, because they are atm not particullary good at winning the favor.

I think many phoenix willl make good use of it, with display of power and the stronghold, getting the favor is easier..

So, it's an cancel card that requires the favor to use.... why the outrage?

Only people I could think of who may have an issue with it are crane/scorpion players who don't want other clans to be able to cancel events also.

2 minutes ago, maniacmcgoo said:

So, it's an cancel card that requires the favor to use.... why the outrage?

Only people I could think of who may have an issue with it are crane/scorpion players who don't want other clans to be able to cancel events also.

I'm gonna bet that old gem "NPE" shows up here sooner rather than later.

2 minutes ago, Tetsuro said:

I'm gonna bet that old gem "NPE" shows up here sooner rather than later.

Oh, it already did. Just take a look at the threads on Backhanded Compliment.

4 minutes ago, Saibot said:

Oh, it already did. Just take a look at the threads on Backhanded Compliment.

No, I meant specific to the idea of counterspells.

1 minute ago, Tetsuro said:

No, I meant specific to the idea of counterspells.

Ah, fair enough.

29 minutes ago, maniacmcgoo said:

So, it's an cancel card that requires the favor to use.... why the outrage?

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What outrage?