The P.S. is going to get handled via damaged cockpits anyways. Is the focus token just that much stronger than having points for a dauntless title or whatever else?

3 minutes ago, Velvetelvis said:

The P.S. is going to get handled via damaged cockpits anyways. Is the focus token just that much stronger than having points for a dauntless title or whatever else?

Mainly because Echo doesn't get the super awesome Focus token for defense from hitting things.

And.....its nice not to have to use the Damaged Cockpit against Dash, Miranda, mid range PS turrets.

Decoy Echo though....thats fun

Still doesnt have the raw efficiency of Offense & Defense mods that Whisper gets.

RAC will eventually die and that means you typically have to solo the rest of whats left.

Whisper does that better with the focus on defense to deal with TLT etc.

That makes sense. I almost without exception use rebel captive on phantoms. I suppose swapping that to a recon specialist is not a great trade.looks like a wash and then worse...expertise suddenly works again.

Sadly, with turrets being as common as they are, cool flying gimmicks don't really count for much

Dice mods are the only way around them, hence whisper

8 minutes ago, Velvetelvis said:

That makes sense. I almost without exception use rebel captive on phantoms. I suppose swapping that to a recon specialist is not a great trade.looks like a wash and then worse...expertise suddenly works again.

I used to run Advanced Sensors Rec Spec on Whisper. Just to stomp out multiple TLT lists.

Rec Spec is still kinda awesome on her since you can end up with 3 focuses whenever they start shooting back.

I played RAC Echo for a while. To. Of fun, but has two big problems:

1) PS 8+ is a lot more common than 9+, and there’s a good chance of facing two or three PS threats in one list. That means Echo spends more time out of the battle, and sometimes there just aren’t enough Damaged cockpits.

2) Action economy. Whisper’s is just so much better. Echos crew gets eaten by Kallus.

Echo is great when arcs matter and PS 7 and below are common, while PS9 is relatively rare.

Whisper is great so long as the meta is more than infinite PS 10 turrets.

... Do I need to finish that thought?

5 minutes ago, Reiver said:

Echo is great when arcs matter and PS 7 and below are common, while PS9 is relatively rare.

Whisper is great so long as the meta is more than infinite PS 10 turrets.

He's good in a generics-only game, because generics only go up to PS6.

Hold on a second.

2 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

He's good in a generics-only game, because generics only go up to PS6.

Hold on a second.

All joking aside, Echo would make a great 'boss-fight' in a generics-only game.

Possibly too good, but that's half the fun, right?

Because @Starslinger72 says so?