11 hours ago, Oldpara said:This Natio was played with the new FAQ based on decision of organizers and popular vote. 3 Miranda's in top4 - almost unscathed by nerf (nobody plays action mines anymore because other options are crazy strong).
I'm pretty convinced that when people get the guts to start putting Imperial aces on the table again Miranda will see some hard competition. Ive been playing triple Imperials the last few months and rarely ever had any issues beating Miranda.
10 minutes ago, Biophysical said:I'm pretty convinced that when people get the guts to start putting Imperial aces on the table again Miranda will see some hard competition. Ive been playing triple Imperials the last few months and rarely ever had any issues beating Miranda.
List?
Quickdraw, A Score to Settle, Fire Control System, Lightweight Frame = 33
Backdraft, VI, Fire Control System, Lightweight Frame = 32
Soontir Fel, PTL, Title, Autothrusters, Targeting Computer = 34
99 points.
You can drop LWF from Backdraft for more if a bid and/or put VI on Quickdraw for more PS, meta depending.
All in all, though, the SFs absolutely rock against Miranda. They have better PS, they have enough hit points for when she used to take action bombs, and the rear arc means if she can shoot at them, they can usually shoot at her, often outside of the range of any bomb effect.
Fel isn't really an integral component, there are a ton of good ships that can go there, such as Colonel Vessery, but Fel is great against turrets and very fast.
4 hours ago, Biophysical said:Quickdraw, A Score to Settle, Fire Control System, Lightweight Frame = 33
Backdraft, VI, Fire Control System, Lightweight Frame = 32
Soontir Fel, PTL, Title, Autothrusters, Targeting Computer = 34
99 points.
With adaptability Quickdraw, the list is Thweek PS proof
If he takes Soonts or BD, adapt Quickdraw up. If he takes QDs, adapt him down.
1 hour ago, wurms said:With adaptability Quickdraw, the list is Thweek PS proof
Hah, that's funny.
1 hour ago, wurms said:With adaptability Quickdraw, the list is Thweek PS proof
Except that you have the timing for Thweek wrong. He decides his PS or ability after everythings placed.
4 minutes ago, MegaSilver said:Except that you have the timing for Thweek wrong. He decides his PS or ability after everythings placed.
Before the place forces step, he has to decide to mimick or shadow. If he shadows, then after setup, he has the PS of the ship he shadowed.
9 hours ago, Oldpara said:HWK List:
Miranda + TLT, Rey, Bomblet
Lowhhrick + Selflessness, Wookiee Commandos
HWK Rebel Operative + TLT, Moldy Crow, Recon Spec, Pulse Ray Shield
No LRS?
49 minutes ago, comawhite said:No LRS?
LRS is not the best option on Miranda with Rey crew flying in formation. When you build stack of focuses and you are close to the enemy you might want to take TL at r1 to unleash doom sacrificing the shield.
8 hours ago, Biophysical said:I'm pretty convinced that when people get the guts to start putting Imperial aces on the table again Miranda will see some hard competition. Ive been playing triple Imperials the last few months and rarely ever had any issues beating Miranda.
Practising against Ego against the Aussie Nats winner with Vader, Quickdraw and Pap and I had a game that turned to custard when Biggs didn’t go down fast enough. The Formation broke apart because Missile shuttle but Lowie went after Shuttle andbit was going to die. Vader on Biggs had him close to death but 26 v 29 is not winning a game.
With the Formation split Vader and Quickdraw swerved to take down Miranda and she went down in 2 rounds 4 shots. Thank you Bomblet for the extra QD shot.
Aces definitely can kill Miranda fast, but you do still have another half of a list to deal with and if that half of the list is still a turret (Rey, Dash, TLT anything) it’s not actually that easy.
Rebels are definitely the dominate faction right now though and have been since wave 11 dropped. FAQ or no FAQ. I think they have won most of the National Championships. I think that is partially because of the turret meta and the fact that’s rebels are the best turret faction and also because Scum Nym was seen to be the boogieman and so lists were targeted against in meaning the best Scum Ace Turret list was not as effective as the best rebel ones. Also the wookie shipmis stupidly good and Rebels have damage sharing and regen which the other factions don’t.
8 hours ago, Biophysical said:I'm pretty convinced that when people get the guts to start putting Imperial aces on the table again Miranda will see some hard competition. Ive been playing triple Imperials the last few months and rarely ever had any issues beating Miranda.
Practising against Ego against the Aussie Nats winner with Vader, Quickdraw and Pap and I had a game that turned to custard when Biggs didn’t go down fast enough. The Formation broke apart because Missile shuttle but Lowie went after Shuttle andbit was going to die. Vader on Biggs had him close to death but 26 v 29 is not winning a game.
With the Formation split Vader and Quickdraw swerved to take down Miranda and she went down in 2 rounds 4 shots. Thank you Bomblet for the extra QD shot.
Aces definitely can kill Miranda fast, but you do still have another half of a list to deal with and if that half of the list is still a turret (Rey, Dash, TLT anything) it’s not actually that easy.
Rebels are definitely the dominate faction right now though and have been since wave 11 dropped. FAQ or no FAQ. I think they have won most of the National Championships. I think that is partially because of the turret meta and the fact that’s rebels are the best turret faction and also because Scum Nym was seen to be the boogieman and so lists were targeted against in meaning the best Scum Ace Turret list was not as effective as the best rebel ones. Also the wookie shipmis stupidly good and Rebels have damage sharing and regen which the other factions don’t.
As a long-time fanboy of the Rebel HWK, that's pretty ballsy putting a 30-point PS 2 HWK on the table. Very nice to see.
What were the top cut lists? Cant find it on Juggler
35 minutes ago, Sarcon said:What were the top cut lists? Cant find it on Juggler
I did find it on page 1
Top8 lists (not in particular order):
PTL Fenn + VI Ketsu + Sunny
4x Azutick with commands
Han Miranda
Dash miranda
Asajj 4-Lom Kato stress control
RAC Quickdraw
Miranda Lowhrik HWK PS2
Miranda Rey
Edited by SEApocalypse
36 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:I did find it on page 1
Top8 lists (not in particular order):
PTL Fenn + VI Ketsu + Sunny
4x Azutick with commands
Han Miranda
Dash miranda
Asajj 4-Lom Kato stress control
RAC Quickdraw
Miranda Lowhrik HWK PS2
Miranda Rey
Wasn’t it a top16 cut?
44 players in total, so 1 day tournament: 5 rounds of Swiss and then top8 (for total 8 games a day for finalists).
13 minutes ago, Oldpara said:44 players in total, so 1 day tournament: 5 rounds of Swiss and then top8 (for total 8 games a day for finalists).
Ah, my bad, I thought it was a top16 cut. Didn’t understand much from just the stream
The Nr. 1 List was
Miranda - TLT, Sabine, Bomblet, LRS
Lowhhrick - Wookie,Selflessness
HWK (RO16) - TLT,Recon,PRS,MoldyCrow
There was no Rey on Miranda
15 minutes ago, vjack1706 said:The Nr. 1 List was
Miranda - TLT, Sabine, Bomblet, LRS
Lowhhrick - Wookie,Selflessness
HWK (RO16) - TLT,Recon,PRS,MoldyCrow
There was no Rey on Miranda
My mistake. Anyway well played!