3 hours ago, BadMotivator said:

Wrong picture. It needs to be the one of Han and Leia about to kisssn

No, this is exactly the right picture.

As for Rey: I give respect to the guy who flew Expertise Rey with Finn and Zeb. It's a constant barrage of heavily modified 4-5 dice attacks who loves smashing her face into her opponents.

56 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

I think all that demonstrates is group think.

Then you would like to prove it to be group think by taking it to tournaments and out doing the slooping Reys?

I can't get behind the old title/C-3P0 position. I practiced a bunch and played old title/C-3P0 in a store kit tournament to chase after the Mynock bounty for a Worlds Rey card. The whole time, I was just wishing I had slooping Rey.

/shrug...people have different preferences and play styles.

1 hour ago, BlodVargarna said:

I think all that demonstrates is group think.

It's possible, I guess? I'd have a hard time labeling a Rey list as group think just because it's a fairly unusual call at all. Also I tend to give two top 2 regional finishers half a world apart (Canada and Czech/Slovakia) credit for thinking through their lists. I've seen Han and Chewie lists with the old title do fairly well at a couple big events, but haven't seen anyone do well with new title Rey. It's possible that's solely because nobody is trying it but I would guess instead that people who use Rey stick with the new title because it compliments her better, and that the good players who have used the old title used old Han or Chewie instead because they don't care anywhere near as much about arc.

6 hours ago, Hawkstrike said:

Against RAC/lo I'd rather have Determination on Rey. Played too many times against Kylo where the first ISYTDS was Damaged Cockpit, followed by Blinded Pilot x2.

But determination pretty much sucks against everything that isn't Kylo, so it's a poor meta choice. VI with a initiative bid gives you one shot before the crits start racking up, which can really help your wingman seal the deal.

Look I know you want Rey to get a robot hand and all, but we can please refrain from that until after the movie comes out ?

serious note, I think it’ll be an situational mod. I still prefer burnout slam but I could see some niche uses for CC.

23 minutes ago, Astech said:

But determination pretty much sucks against everything that isn't Kylo, so it's a poor meta choice. VI with a initiative bid gives you one shot before the crits start racking up, which can really help your wingman seal the deal.

Determination doesn't suck. I've been running Determination on my Rey for the last 3-4 months and, on average, it procs 1-2 times per game for me naturally.

If by meta you mean "world" meta at a large event, any Rey list will need a better plan for RAClo than to just not draw RAClo, because there will probably be a whole lotta RAClo floating around out there. If you're talking local meta, then I agree...if you don't have much Kylo around, Determination is a bad meta call. It'd probably be worth considering when the Silencer drops, though!

This maths seems relevant.

Does anyone know any good video batreps/saved streams of Rey’s falcon? Looking to see how other people fly her. Not the Canadian Nationals final

3 hours ago, gennataos said:

Determination doesn't suck. I've been running Determination on my Rey for the last 3-4 months and, on average, it procs 1-2 times per game for me naturally.

If by meta you mean "world" meta at a large event, any Rey list will need a better plan for RAClo than to just not draw RAClo, because there will probably be a whole lotta RAClo floating around out there. If you're talking local meta, then I agree...if you don't have much Kylo around, Determination is a bad meta call. It'd probably be worth considering when the Silencer drops, though!

Ideally, your wingman would be able to take out Chirpy. Corran and Norra would both be good for that. By taking determination on Rey you're tying to get her to work against that list, but she just doesn't. Having it proc 2 times a game on 8 hit points is super unlikely unless your opponent has some kind of crit mechanic like a mangler. Once a game is probably near the average, and whether that's worth it to you over VI or Expertise is a meta call, as you said.

6 hours ago, gennataos said:

If by meta you mean "world" meta at a large event, any Rey list will need a better plan for RAClo than to just not draw RAClo, because there will probably be a whole lotta RAClo floating around out there.

Is there, though? A quick perusal through some recent Nationals seems to imply it's not actually that popular; Australia had one of the higher concentrations, and even then we're talking 10 RACLos in 111 players. Granted, we're entering a new meta now, so theoretically we could be about to see more of him. But unless you're expecting RACLo to make up a fifth or more of your field, I think you very much can just hope not to catch one and build your Rey normally.

Hmm...yeah, maybe I'm turned around on this. I just hate the virtual auto-lose against a RAClo list.

The thing I like about Determination Rey, is it leaves points for Countermeasures. In munitions meta breaking a TL is invaluable.

9 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

The thing I like about Determination Rey, is it leaves points for Countermeasures. In munitions meta breaking a TL is invaluable.

Plus you'll already be used to that build by the time the Silencer drops, which I would guess will be popular on release.

I don't know. I go back and forth on this a lot. There's no denying that both VI and Expertise are good on Rey.

34 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Plus you'll already be used to that build by the time the Silencer drops, which I would guess will be popular on release.

I don't know. I go back and forth on this a lot. There's no denying that both VI and Expertise are good on Rey.

Expertise is great for both Sloop Rey or Evade Rey, for the same reason: using action for defense and getting fully modded shot, which is the great weakness of Determination Rey. She needs to take a focus action and use it for offense.

I loved old title on Rey with 3PO against 2 ship builds it’s great. Pick 0 with 3PO, hopefully get a blank, add an evade with 3-PO, add a blank with Finn, get two rerolls, and then spend an evade token to get 2-4 evade results. That’s solid damage mitigation.

5 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

Expertise is great for both Sloop Rey or Evade Rey, for the same reason: using action for defense and getting fully modded shot, which is the great weakness of Determination Rey. She needs to take a focus action and use it for offense.

I loved old title on Rey with 3PO against 2 ship builds it’s great. Pick 0 with 3PO, hopefully get a blank, add an evade with 3-PO, add a blank with Finn, get two rerolls, and then spend an evade token to get 2-4 evade results. That’s solid damage mitigation.

I know we're way off your initial thread and now onto a more generic "Which is the best Rey", buuuuut....

How does she do damage like that?

Just now, gennataos said:

I know we're way off your initial thread and now onto a more generic "Which is the best Rey", buuuuut....

How does she do damage like that?

With expertise? Converts eyeballs to hits. Plus adding blank with Finn and getting re-rolls.

Just because she doesn’t have sloop doesn’t mean she can’t keep opponents in arc. It’s not that hard and if she has to, she can pull a K turn and lose her expertise one round if she must, or she may have to take a shot out of arc but keep expertise and lose Finn plus rerolls. It’s a matter of preference, but I like damage mitigation to keep her in the fight longer.

7 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

With expertise? Converts eyeballs to hits. Plus adding blank with Finn and getting re-rolls.

Just because she doesn’t have sloop doesn’t mean she can’t keep opponents in arc. It’s not that hard and if she has to, she can pull a K turn and lose her expertise one round if she must, or she may have to take a shot out of arc but keep expertise and lose Finn plus rerolls. It’s a matter of preference, but I like damage mitigation to keep her in the fight longer.

Ah, I thought you were still talking about Determination along with it.

Huh. I guess I also like my opponent having to account for the sloop, which usually means lost shots on their part, which is also a sort of (untrackable) damage mitigation.

25 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Ah, I thought you were still talking about Determination along with it.

I think Determination Rey has to take focus and use it for offense so may as well take the new title.

I don’t think new title/Kanan is bad, it’s great. I just think that 3PO and evade title has a place in some Rey builds (Expertise & Lone Wolf maybe Predator).

This is my favorite Rey to fly.

Rey — YT-1300 45

Expertise 4

Kanan Jarrus 3

Finn 5

Scavenger Crane 2

Smuggling Compartment 0

Countermeasures 3

Millennium Falcon (TFA) 1

Ship Total: 63

I currently have her teamed up with:

Jan Ors — HWK-290 25

Trick Shot 0

Twin Laser Turret 6

Chewbacca 4

Vectored Thrusters 2

Ship Total: 37

This combo hits like a TON OF BRICKS but can also die fast if I make mistakes. On a side note I did have Jan take a range one shot from Fenn Rau and after he ended his rolling showed two hits and two crits. I lolled one evade for Jan so then the combo starts, first hit canceled by evade die, second hit is taken by the shield, first crit is a Direct Hit so I use Chewbaca to discard that and gain a shield so the second crit goes to the shield. That was GREATNESS!!!

Don't know what to think about the contraband cybernetics interaction.