Okay so there are no Unicorn players in the top 26 at Worlds, at this time, after 5 rounds.

Are they that under-powered? Discuss .

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4 minutes ago, blackheartz said:

Okay so there are no Unicorn players in the top 26 at Worlds, at this time, after 5 rounds. Discuss .

Working as intended?

It's only day one. Aren't there still two or three more events until they make it to the championship rounds?

Also this could end up being a good thing since Unicorn can try to win some side events and see if they can get some of those extra clan perks..................

Ponies are more trash than the doctor who treated Khal Drogo's papercut.

The Cavalry rule means they all just upped and went to a different tournament.

1 minute ago, kiramode said:

Ponies are more trash than the doctor who treated Khal Drogo's papercut.

That's all a matter of perspective. To her and her people she did a great job.

6 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:

That's all a matter of perspective. To her and her people she did a great job.

You're thinking of the bloodmagic lady. She came in after the initial doctor dropped the ball so hard the Khalisei had no other options.

They are just not there at the moment.

They have the worst Stronghold

They can do okay in Military Conflicts but not so well in Political.

But Golden Plains Outpost is like the Outpost in "Dances with Wolves" only thing is it is...

Worst

Personally I think the Unicorn have probably the strongest stronghold. But their cards suck so it doesn't matter. Swap the word Calvary for Courtier and swap Military for Political and then imagine that stronghold in Crane. It would be broken. But that's because Crane has good cards.

Oh and there were just not that many Unicorn Players.

Here is how the top 30 breakout by Clan

Phoenix - 7

Crab, Dragon & Scorpion - 5 each

Crane - 4

Lion - 3

Unicorn - 0

Individuals just are going with the FOTM which is Phoenix and more likely Phoenix Dishonor splashing Scorpion.

Their opponents are forgetting that in this version of L5R you can lose Honor far faster than you can gain it and are not paying attention to what their Honor is at and Phoenix is making them pay.

4 minutes ago, kiramode said:

Personally I think the Unicorn have probably the strongest stronghold. But their cards suck so it doesn't matter. Swap the word Calvary for Courtier and swap Military for Political and then imagine that stronghold in Crane. It would be broken. But that's because Crane has good cards.

It only works in one type of Conflict.

It provides +0 to the province so at best it has a Province Strength of 5, which is horrible.

It can only move only one Cavalry Character

10 Honor is not very good; go for the big draw first turn and you are down by 3-4 Honor than you play an Assassination and you are down to around 6-7 Honor. So sitting on 3-4 Honor and Phoenix or Scorpion will Dishonor your Characters and before you know it you are at "0" Honor and have lost the game.

No Golden Plains Outpost really not that good.

In the old game Cavalry was almost like Flying in Magic the gathering. In this version it's nothing. No wonder the Unicorns feel underpowered.

True but until FFG puts in the ability to move from one Province to another, which they may never do, the Cavalry ability is not too great.

What the stronghold lets you do is not over commit to get a province broken. Just the treat of being able to pull in a big attacker has the ability to deter would be defenders from trying to stop your attack.

Also provinfe strength doesnt matter if you're aggro. If you're trying to play a value game then the stronghold is trash. But if you're trying to break stronghold and out tempo your opponent it's great.

Let's just be honest here. They're misfits of society. Everyone else looks down on them. They dress funny. And they have homes that are mobile (yurts) but still try to settle down.

Ponies are the trailer trash of Rokugan.

34 minutes ago, Zesu Shadaban said:

Let's just be honest here. They're misfits of society. Everyone else looks down on them. They dress funny. And they have homes that are mobile (yurts) but still try to settle down.

Ponies are the trailer trash of Rokugan.

That’s profiling... and profiling is wrong.

I hope the Clan representation balances out... I don’t know if I want to play the most popular Clan come PAX. I might have have to switch to the Ponies.

6 hours ago, Sainhann said:

Oh and there were just not that many Unicorn Players.

Here is how the top 30 breakout by Clan

Phoenix - 7

Crab, Dragon & Scorpion - 5 each

Crane - 4

Lion - 3

Unicorn - 0

Individuals just are going with the FOTM which is Phoenix and more likely Phoenix Dishonor splashing Scorpion.

Their opponents are forgetting that in this version of L5R you can lose Honor far faster than you can gain it and are not paying attention to what their Honor is at and Phoenix is making them pay.

Your top 30 breakdown seems to only have 29 players.

I think Unicorn is indeed slightly behind the other clans but FFG also has plans to shift the meta round so give it some cards (perhaps 6 dynasty packs released fast? as if that would ever happen) and they may rise like a Phoenix (bad comparison or strangely apt?)

10 hours ago, kiramode said:

Personally I think the Unicorn have probably the strongest stronghold. But their cards suck so it doesn't matter. Swap the word Calvary for Courtier and swap Military for Political and then imagine that stronghold in Crane. It would be broken. But that's because Crane has good cards.

That still sounds awful haha. Crane's stronghold now is better than that.

Do we have any information on who is piloting riding the ponies?

If not, the only thing we can tell right now is the popularity (which might be related to the perceived power level). Skill is really important in this game, so I wouldn't draw any conclusions from what I believe was a total of 3 ponies losing on Day Z. Even if they were all brilliant players, 3 people having an off day or some bad luck or meeting even better players is hardly out of the question.

I've seen some successful card game players' names on the list (not playing pony), but have no idea about the field as a whole. Plenty of people don't go to Worlds, remember, especially in a launch year and if they live outside of US/Canada.

unicorn is bad because all our guys are force bump guys on dynasty side, we have 2 good abilities and they are on our courtiers, our box would be amazing in my opinion if it could move home or to the battlefield or be used in both conflict types. Our conflict cards even the previews dont do anything once actually in the battle, everything does all this tech out side the battle but once we are actually in we have nothing. We have no bow or force pens or even dishonor or honor (excluding unaligned cards because everyone has those.) we lack actions that do things in battle. Some one told me in play testing that unicorn were OP so i figure they did like a last min nerf and it was just to late to readjust all the other cards.

The Unicorn stronghold is only as good as the cavalry characters that are available. In time people will see just how good the stronghold is. Right now you only get small glimpses of it because the number of good cavalry characters is small.....near nonexsiatant. If there are better neutral characters that can equip a Favored Mount or neutral cavalry characters, those now have to be taken into consideration for at least 2 of the 4 conflicts......may be more with Captive Audience.

The Stronghold is not the problem with Unicorn. Asking for it to be better would only cripple the quality of the characters that could be played with Unicorn. You can see this in the first dynasty pack with a really great new character that is missing the cavalry trait.....because she could be too strong if she had it naturally. Make that stronghold better and you'll just end up with a pile full of purple coasters.

Unicorn will be much better in a couple weeks.

22 hours ago, kiramode said:

Ponies are more trash than the doctor who treated Khal Drogo's papercut.

That "doctor who" really threw me out of balance while reading the sentence. Would be a weird crossover.

1 hour ago, Ishi Tonu said:

Right now you only get small glimpses of it because the number of good cavalry characters is small.....near nonexsiatant.

If we were to get all the good stuff at the very beginning, we would be doomed to all coasters later. Now we just get the Weyland treatment?

I think it's pretty clear that FFG designed the core along with at least the first cycle of dynasty packs. If you look at just the Core set plus the first pack, Unicorn is much more viable. They still might not be top tier, but, the gap is not nearly as large as it is with just the core set.

This is just storytelling in cards as implemented by ffg. Unicorn, as in the fiction is still the outsider. It will grow in power until it becomes the op broken stuff it's meant to be.

Same way scorpion is a dominant powerful political deck over all as it's how it's in the court now. Crane and lion are so far designed to fight each other endlessly to a bloody stalemate, dragon, while obviously strong and mystical, is still clunky and in search of his identity coming down from the mountain and phenix, while indubitably powerful, needs to find it's way.

And crab, well crab is waiting and die.

It will change with coming extensions but so far the flavor is I think quite installed.