How is he doing for you?

What are you running him with?

Is he the real deal or just another Graz?

GO!!!!

He's a great ship for the opponent to be flying when you brought Thweek along...

Expose has found a new life with this guy.

I run him with VI, scavenger crane, VT, SD, and PRS. 30 points. He does fine until he is the only ship left. Then he dies like a Kihraxz normally does.

31 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:

Expose has found a new life with this guy.

No, it hasn't. Expose is never the answer.

Stealth Device, on the other hand...

Been running him with VI, EU, AT, SD, and Scavenger Crane alongside an identically built Talonbane and a Thweek w/ both titles, Adv Sensors, Inertial Dampeners, and AT. Its done shockingly well, people don't know who to go after. Do you eat stress and go after Viktor? Do you fear Talonbane throwing 5 dice at r1? Or do you attempt to tackle the enigma that is Thweek?

Advanced sensors?

Edit .. never mind

36 minutes ago, Innese said:

Been running him with VI, EU, AT, SD, and Scavenger Crane alongside an identically built Talonbane and a Thweek w/ both titles, Adv Sensors, Inertial Dampeners, and AT. Its done shockingly well, people don't know who to go after. Do you eat stress and go after Viktor? Do you fear Talonbane throwing 5 dice at r1? Or do you attempt to tackle the enigma that is Thweek?

I actually like this idea... At first I cringed at the point costs of those Kirhaxz but the AT is really useful for making them survive. Also improves the chance of SD staying on.

I might experiment with Thweek getting PRS and Ion discharger instead, for basically the sole reason that I have only two copies of AT until the tie silencer comes out. I really want PRS+discharge to be good, maybe he can be a control element to the list...

23 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

I actually like this idea... At first I cringed at the point costs of those Kirhaxz but the AT is really useful for making them survive. Also improves the chance of SD staying on.

I might experiment with Thweek getting PRS and Ion discharger instead, for basically the sole reason that I have only two copies of AT until the tie silencer comes out. I really want PRS+discharge to be good, maybe he can be a control element to the list...

I've yet to run PRS & Ion Discharger on a Starviper yet, but I run that in a Triple HWK-290 list that managed to go 4-0 in Casual Play tonight.

I must know this triple hawk list .. wait ...edit ..

Never mind I see my mistake ... long day, fourth..ish beer and first post of the day

2 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:

Kad Solus — Protectorate Starfighter	25
Push the Limit	3
Proton Torpedoes	4
Autothrusters	2
Ship Total: 34

Why PTL? Doesn't synergize with his pilot ability really.

7 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

Why PTL? Doesn't synergize with his pilot ability really.

Ehh. I wanted to try an arc-dodger Fang.

55 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:

Ehh. I wanted to try an arc-dodger Fang.

Fenn Rau is Arc Dodger Fang. Old Teroch is "kiss-me-I'm-beautiful" Fang. Kad Solus is neglected step-child Fang.

Tried him a few times. Been underwhelmed.

Not convinced any of the k-fighter aces are worth the extra points over the generics, for what is at its core an efficiency ship, especially with Vaksai.

23 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Tried him a few times. Been underwhelmed.

Not convinced any of the k-fighter aces are worth the extra points over the generics, for what is at its core an efficiency ship, especially with Vaksai.

I'm convinced that Captain Jostero is absolutely worth his points when compared to generic K-Fighters. He's one point more and one PS less - but his ability is great.

35 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Tried him a few times. Been underwhelmed.

Not convinced any of the k-fighter aces are worth the extra points over the generics, for what is at its core an efficiency ship, especially with Vaksai.

I have nightmares about Talonbane sneaking up on my GUNBOATs.

4 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

Kad Solus — Protectorate Starfighter 25

Push the Limit 3
Proton Torpedoes 4
Autothrusters 2
Ship Total: 34

I wish I could make Kad work... sad face.

I'd try Wired or Fearlessness to try and have them synergize with his pilot ablilty.

And the title.

15 hours ago, Innese said:

Been running him with VI , EU , AT, SD , and Scavenger Crane alongside an identically built Talonbane and a Thweek w/ both titles, Adv Sensors, Inertial Dampeners , and AT. Its done shockingly well, people don't know who to go after. Do you eat stress and go after Viktor? Do you fear Talonbane throwing 5 dice at r1? Or do you attempt to tackle the enigma that is Thweek ?

The thing is, not only is Hel not the biggest threat, he's also the one I don't want to shoot - so I go after Talonbane, then Thweek (unless he's copied something really good).

18 hours ago, Innese said:

Been running him with VI, EU, AT, SD, and Scavenger Crane alongside an identically built Talonbane and a Thweek w/ both titles, Adv Sensors, Inertial Dampeners, and AT. Its done shockingly well, people don't know who to go after. Do you eat stress and go after Viktor? Do you fear Talonbane throwing 5 dice at r1? Or do you attempt to tackle the enigma that is Thweek?

Kill Talonbane first. Then gun for Vicktor while you still have massed firepower to finish him quickly, unless Thweek has a particuarly troubling ability and/or the stress isn't a major impediment to your list.

Even with the title, you've paid a lot of points to turn Kithraxz into, basically, expensive Starvipers (3 attack, 5 HP, and 2-3 agility with Autothrusters and Boost?). The target priority then ends up fairly clear.

3 hours ago, Reiver said:

Kill Talonbane first. Then gun for Vicktor while you still have massed firepower to finish him quickly, unless Thweek has a particuarly troubling ability and/or the stress isn't a major impediment to your list.

Even with the title, you've paid a lot of points to turn Kithraxz into, basically, expensive Starvipers (3 attack, 5 HP, and 2-3 agility with Autothrusters and Boost?). The target priority then ends up fairly clear.

The only thing that distinguishes the Kihraxz from Starvipers is the missile slot, which should be liberally sprinkled with Cruise Missiles to make them a priority target, and PRS + Ion Dischargers + EU + Autothrusters to make them **** near impossible to kill.

15 hours ago, Boba Rick said:

I'm convinced that Captain Jostero is absolutely worth his points when compared to generic K-Fighters. He's one point more and one PS less - but his ability is great.

14 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I have nightmares about Talonbane sneaking up on my GUNBOATs.

Out of all the unique pilots I think he is the best out of all of them. Just don't count on his pilot ability for defense, it works great on offense though.

Viktor is the real deal.

Surprised how much I love him. This is how I have flown him:

Kihraxz Fighter: · Viktor Hel (25)
Expertise (3)
Vectored Thrusters (1)
Pulsed Ray Shield (1)
Stealth Device (2)
Vaksai (0)
Ion Dischargers (1)
-- TOTAL ------- 33p. --

This is what I want to try:

Kihraxz Fighter: · Viktor Hel (25)
Deadeye (0)
Concussion Missiles (3)
Guidance Chips (0)
Pulsed Ray Shield (1)
Stealth Device (2)
Vaksai (0)
Scavenger Crane (1)
-- TOTAL ------- 32p. --

And hope to scavenge like a mad man.

I thought I would be meh on the new kihraxz fighter because the starviper title is so good, but Mr. Hel has surprised me with just how much I like him.

On 02/11/2017 at 1:06 AM, DR4CO said:

No, it hasn't. Expose is never the answer.

Wrong. It is the answer to the question "which upgrade should you never, ever, ever take except possibly on a Decimator, but only if you don't have Engine Upgrade, Veteran Instincts or Predator"

17 hours ago, E Chu Ta said:

Fenn Rau is Arc Dodger Fang. Old Teroch is "kiss-me-I'm-beautiful" Fang. Kad Solus is neglected step-child Fang.

eh kad solus is good. anytime a ship can do reds and come out with a token you cant discount it entirely