Okay, okay, I'll shut up. It's almost 11pm, hard day of work, I'm terribly tired and I couldn't make out the fine print. My bad.

<_> the way the card works is obvious. why is anyone overthinking it.

these are also all pretty cool. love to see more interesting and evocative stuff.

So what happens when Public Forum is flipped face down by the new Dragon personality?

17 minutes ago, Ignithas said:

Maybe I am over critical about it, but the stats seem to hurt the card a lot.

1 cost? Check. Cavalry? Check. Can attack on Political? Check. Mixed blessing of 0 Glory? Check. Useful ability? Check.

Can solo undefended Province with Ride Them Down? Check.

A cheap cavalry body, which is needed, with useful ability is not something I'm going to complain about.

6 minutes ago, Wintersong said:

1 cost? Check. Cavalry? Check. Can attack on Political? Check. Mixed blessing of 0 Glory? Check. Useful ability? Check.

Can solo undefended Province with Ride Them Down? Check.

A cheap cavalry body, which is needed, with useful ability is not something I'm going to complain about.

I had forgotten about Ride Them Down.

Dishonor status is going to hurt while at that Void province. *eyes Scorpion warily*

25 minutes ago, Canezar said:

So what happens when Public Forum is flipped face down by the new Dragon personality?

Your opponent cries.

4 minutes ago, Saibot said:

Your opponent cries.

I didn't even think of this....well you never attack that province again lol!

5 minutes ago, Iuchi Toshimo said:

Dishonor status is going to hurt while at that Void province. *eyes Scorpion warily*

As drinking poison, or listening to a certain Soshi... *grins*

1 hour ago, Canezar said:

So what happens when Public Forum is flipped face down by the new Dragon personality?

I would think the honor token would still remain if it already had one.

The player activating the interrupt on Public Forum places one of their own honor tokens on the province, right?

Edit: Maybe not. I'd expect it to say from your honor pool if so. Good Omens, for example, doesn't make you use your own fate. I wonder why they chose an honor token vs fate.

5 minutes ago, AradonTemplar said:

The player activating the interrupt on Public Forum places one of their own honor tokens on the province, right?

Edit: Maybe not. I'd expect it to say from your honor pool if so. Good Omens, for example, doesn't make you use your own fate. I wonder why they chose an honor token vs fate.

Maybe because Fate tokens on cards are generally removed during a Fate Phase. We don't want someone to accidentally remove one when going through all the tokens they are taking of characters. Even worse if someone was to 'accidentally' remove it.

2 hours ago, Canezar said:

So what happens when Public Forum is flipped face down by the new Dragon personality?

Normally, if a card leaves play, tokens are removed. However, the rules reference states that facedown provinces are technically in play, just as a facedown province and its face text doesn't interact with the game state. Since there's no time the province is leaving play, and no other effect (currently) to remove the honor token, it would seem it stays where it is. Which is probably for the best, for game balance purposes.

That flavor text...

Expensive but cool.

Love this card! Blessings from the Isawa.

That is an amazing card!

30 minutes ago, Tokhuah said:

Love this card! Blessings from the Isawa.

Definately what the clan needed. Crane won't mind it.

My Lion deck wouldn't mind it.

Awesome! Will add them to the front page. Here's a scorpion spoiler as well!

Does "as if it were in this province" imply you follow the normal rules for playing cards from provinces, specifically that you do it during the Dynasty phase?

1 minute ago, AradonTemplar said:

Does "as if it were in this province" imply you follow the normal rules for playing cards from provinces, specifically that you do it during the Dynasty phase?

I think this new Scorpion holding has 2 different rules you can follow.

You can place the leaving Scorpion character facedown onto this holding. You then have 2 options. Use the action to bring the facedown character into play without paying its cost...or do not activate it and it will flip face up during the next dynasty phase where you can pay for its cost and add fate. In the second scenario you wouldn't have to sacrifice the holding, but obviously the first option is much sweeter.

Oooh, neat! Not sure how useful the holding would be, you still need to pay full price again, but it does guarantee the character is available.

I think it would restrict it to dynasty actions, but I could be wrong.

1 minute ago, ElSuave said:

I think this new Scorpion holding has 2 different rules you can follow.

You can place the leaving Scorpion character facedown onto this holding. You then have 2 options. Use the action to bring the facedown character into play without paying its cost...or do not activate it and it will flip face up during the next dynasty phase where you can pay for its cost and add fate. In the second scenario you wouldn't have to sacrifice the holding, but obviously the first option is much sweeter.

It wouldn't flip, the province is already filled by the holding, and it isn't placed in the province, it's attached to the holding.

3 minutes ago, ElSuave said:

I think this new Scorpion holding has 2 different rules you can follow.

You can place the leaving Scorpion character facedown onto this holding. You then have 2 options. Use the action to bring the facedown character into play without paying its cost...or do not activate it and it will flip face up during the next dynasty phase where you can pay for its cost and add fate. In the second scenario you wouldn't have to sacrifice the holding, but obviously the first option is much sweeter.

I'm not sure I agree with that interpretation. It attaches the character to the holding, not the province. The province still holds its own cards like normal, and I'm not sure cards are even 'attached' to provinces rather than just be located on them.

Crab three cost attachment is unplayable at that cost.