36 minutes ago, shineyorkboy said:

Obviously Lion and Phoenix made out like bandits.

Edit: Just want to make sure I understand the RR section on the word 'Then'. If there are no face down cards in provinces Ujiaki's ability can't resolve correct?

Yes. Yes we did.

Normally that would be the case, however with the wording on his ability, I don't think there would have to actually BE any facedown cards. It just says "each facedown card" so if there are 0 facedown cards in the provinces, technically that part of the ability should still resolve, since each (0) facedown cards are turned faceup.

Policy Debate - Is the Honor Excange in a Duel based upon the amount on your dial or the total value of your characters?

so if I use Policy Debate on my Shoju and Their Keeper Initiate, we both bid 1 for an 8/2 finish in my favour... Did i just give them 6 honor?

or if I force their Hotaru to duel my spud did I just Dishonor them out?

#IneverduelledinO5Reither

13 minutes ago, Daigotsu Steve said:

Policy Debate - Is the Honor Excange in a Duel based upon the amount on your dial or the total value of your characters?

so if I use Policy Debate on my Shoju and Their Keeper Initiate, we both bid 1 for an 8/2 finish in my favour... Did i just give them 6 honor?

or if I force their Hotaru to duel my spud did I just Dishonor them out?

#IneverduelledinO5Reither

It's your honour bid, exactly the same as drawing cards. It would be silly otherwise.

10 hours ago, RandomJC said:

*looks at leaked cards*

The saddle is...not good. It can move around, once, but it's just a plus 1.

I do like that it can stick around for a long while if well planned/played. I like that it's only Cavalry. I... er... hmmm... That's it? Not terrible because of that sticking around part but not sure if I would have room for it.

• Stoic Magistrate FTW.
• Ikoma Ujiakai OP.
• Kamayari is nice.
• Kakita Blade is very nice (for duelists).
• Magnificient Lighthouse is annoying as Jigoku.
• Bayushi Yojiro for Scorpion Champion!
• Policy Debate is most welcome.

Not bad.

The more I look at it, Shrine Maiden may become a powerhouse. Particularly as card pool increases. Already play 20ish spells (when considering new previewed ones) and a number of play from discard pile is available... it can only get better from there. Do wish she was a Shugenja as well....

26 minutes ago, Isawa Tasatu said:

The more I look at it, Shrine Maiden may become a powerhouse. Particularly as card pool increases. Already play 20ish spells (when considering new previewed ones) and a number of play from discard pile is available... it can only get better from there. Do wish she was a Shugenja as well....

She can be... once Seal of the Phoenix comes out. I’m guessing “Attached character gains the Shugenja trait”

4 hours ago, Tabris2k said:

She can be... once Seal of the Phoenix comes out. I’m guessing “Attached character gains the Shugenja trait”

Nah, just skip the seal and add more spells for more cards!

6 hours ago, Wintersong said:

Magnificient Lighthouse is annoying as Jigoku.

I can quite read it; something about looking at the top of your opponent's deck?

6 minutes ago, Suzume Tomonori said:

I can quite read it; something about looking at the top of your opponent's deck?

Action : Look at the top 3 cards of an opponent's deck. Discard 1 of those cards, place another on top of that deck, and the other on the bottom of that deck.

Just now, Mangod said:

Action : Look at the top 3 cards of an opponent's deck. Discard 1 of those cards, place another on top of that deck, and the other on the bottom of that deck.

Holy crap that is annoying. But I'm not sure it's better than just drawing a card off of Forgotten Library.

20 minutes ago, Suzume Tomonori said:

Holy crap that is annoying. But I'm not sure it's better than just drawing a card off of Forgotten Library.

[Insert why can't we have both girl meme here]

Yeah, I can't see not running it, but I feel like the Lighthouse is *way* more un-fun than Backhanded Compliment. Aggressively unfun.

Why can't I hold all these holdings??

3 hours ago, Suzume Tomonori said:

Holy crap that is annoying. But I'm not sure it's better than just drawing a card off of Forgotten Library.

A higher tier of manipulation, I think.

You are able to look at, choose to remove a card, and then place a card to the bottom of the deck and place another on the top of the deck.

In effect:

1) Removed a card into discard

2) Removed a card out of play* (by placing it at the bottom of opponent’s deck)

3) Placed a card on top of deck, thus knowing at least the very next card opponent will get

4) Able to see 3 cards of opponent, thus maybe gain knowledge as to which splash they are running (if you run into a splashed card)

5) Brought opponent 1 card closer to decking, thus closer to losing 5 Honor for having to shuffle

Yup, in my opinion, quite more worthwhile than a use of Forgotten Library.

2 hours ago, AradonTemplar said:

Why can't I hold all these holdings??

You can - but you will have less 5 and 4 Fate characters in your deck, I’d think. (initial deck design parameters would/should be tweaked for the purposes of including additional Holdings)

They printed Lantern control into L5R... Phoenix dishonor is going to be obnoxious.

Not ONLY are you only drawing 1 out of fear of being dishonored out, now your drawing 1 KNOWING that a phoenix has chosen the worst of your top 3 cards as the one you will draw. That is brutal .

1 hour ago, LordBlunt said:

You can - but you will have less 5 and 4 Fate characters in your deck, I’d think. (initial deck design parameters would/should be tweaked for the purposes of including additional Holdings)

I'd say fewer 2 and 1 fate characters, as you would be spending your Fate allotment spread over fewer characters (given that some of your dynasty slots would be taken by holdings)

15 hours ago, Zesu Shadaban said:

Yes. Yes we did.

Normally that would be the case, however with the wording on his ability, I don't think there would have to actually BE any facedown cards. It just says "each facedown card" so if there are 0 facedown cards in the provinces, technically that part of the ability should still resolve, since each (0) facedown cards are turned faceup.

For a pre-then effect to be successful, there needs to be a change in game state. Turning 0 cards face up doesn't change the game state.

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The word “Then”

If the effect text of a card ability includes the word “then,” the text preceding the word then must be successfully resolved in full (i.e. the game state must change to reflect the intent of the pre-then aspect of the effect in its entirety) before the remainder of the effect described after the word “then” can be resolved.

On 11/10/2017 at 4:01 PM, mplain said:

Thanks much! Do you have the Crab dynasty card? (#21) #23

#23 hit the web today.

Hmmmm, a card for a specific element role now? Not sure how I feel about that.

5 minutes ago, Kubernes said:

Hmmmm, a card for a specific element role now? Not sure how I feel about that.

Spoiler alert, previous leak indicated there will be at least one province for each element that requires a role for that element.

Crane will be having a blast with the crossing.

5 hours ago, LordBlunt said:

Yup, in my opinion, quite more worthwhile than a use of Forgotten Library.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely see the its uses. But Forgotten Library is putting an extra card in your hand for free, which is saving you honor (thus effectively giving you resources) and giving you a card to do something with right now. I'm not saying the Lighthouse is bad, but there are some situations where I think the Library is going to be better. Though I suppose Lighthouse is really good in a tournament environment for figuring out your opponent's deck.

On 11/10/2017 at 4:58 PM, Nanashi said:

think you're selling it a bit short. It's 'just 1', yes, but in can be used in two conflicts per turn, and it won't get discarded along with some character running out of Fate if used correctly. It's obviously not something that can turn Unicorn into powerhouse by itself but I think it'll see play.

I thinking I'm selling it as mediocre on the bottom side.

Yeah, thinking it over I think the saddle might have been better as a +2 with Ancestral and change the action to something like "during a conflict, move this attachment to a participating cavalry character." Maybe recost it accordingly.

Yeah, I would say more holdings means fewer cheap guys, since you'll spend more fate on the ones you have. You'll want to minimize situations where you get 2 holdings and 2 small guys. I think it's worth running both lighthouse and library. Question is if there's room for favorable grounds as well, and I think the answer is no.

Incidentally, after playing with Kaede this weekend, she's such a better turn 1 play than Tsukune it's not even funny. I think I want to run both, but if one starts to get cut, Tsukune's going first. Embrace the void's been worthwhile so far, but if this 5-cost-dudes gameplay doesn't play out well, it may end up shifting out too.