From this week's 'Rebels'...

...yes, it's a freighter.

Big one, though! And I like the design better than the earlier freighter we'd seen...

But, really, I would like to see both in the game. Unarmed, clearly, but potential for various 'support' upgrade slots - maybe even with heavy shielding as defense for a Fleet Support slot, rather than the current flotilla's use of 'Scatter'? More importantly, of course, would be their usability for campaigns and possibly some new objectives (IE., if they hit retail - unlikely, yes, I know - but I'd love to see one new objective of each type come with them). TBH, feels like the sort of thing that could have been assumed in a future release, if this game was not the red-headed stepchild of FFG's miniature lines. As it is...yeah, I'm just dreaming.

I think it is a very good idea, though.

Though maybe they could have superior AA fire, 2 Fleet Support slots.

28 minutes ago, xanderf said:

From this week's 'Rebels'...

...yes, it's a freighter.

Big one, though! And I like the design better than the earlier freighter we'd seen...

But, really, I would like to see both in the game. Unarmed, clearly, but potential for various 'support' upgrade slots - maybe even with heavy shielding as defense for a Fleet Support slot, rather than the current flotilla's use of 'Scatter'? More importantly, of course, would be their usability for campaigns and possibly some new objectives (IE., if they hit retail - unlikely, yes, I know - but I'd love to see one new objective of each type come with them). TBH, feels like the sort of thing that could have been assumed in a future release, if this game was not the red-headed stepchild of FFG's miniature lines. As it is...yeah, I'm just dreaming.

I would love to see these released along with new objectives or a campaign. We have hope and rebellions are built on it. Let’s keep hoping.

Would this be a rebel ship or imperial? Haven’t seen the episode.

The tetrahedron hauler (the one nobody is a big fan of) seems like a superb design for an objective/target ship model. Simple, distinct, and no EU baggage (AFAIK) for backstory. It’s ugly as sin and that makes it fun to shoot at

5 hours ago, ninclouse2000 said:

I would love to see these released along with new objectives or a campaign. We have hope and rebellions are built on it. Let’s keep hoping.

Well, 'hope' and 300+ page threads on the forums usually seems to do the trick - although I'm not optimistic we'll get that going for these guys!

1 hour ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

Would this be a rebel ship or imperial? Haven’t seen the episode.

Neither? I would assume any freighters added to the game should be some kind of...not sure I'd say "third faction", but that'd be one way to do it, if FFG felt the need for two versions of a ship (as typical) - have a third color for the bases. On the other hand, maybe their for the two sides of the base, have the 'same ship' on each side just in different colors - with Imperial fire arcs on one side and Rebel on the other, so either player could set it to their colors when they were the team doing the 'convoy escort' mission.

There's enough combat ships that I'd like to see before we start seeing big freighters thrown into the game. The recent freighter is much better looking than the one they used early on in Rebels.

2 hours ago, ricefrisbeetreats said:

There's enough combat ships that I'd like to see before we start seeing big freighters thrown into the game. The recent freighter is much better looking than the one they used early on in Rebels.

Out of curiosity what is left besides frieghters like these and the dornean gunship? I can’t think of any other ships from the ot timeline. Original trilogy stuff is hopefully all we will see in this game. I pray we never see prequel or force awakens ships in armada. They can make new games for those eras instead of mixing timelines.

1 minute ago, ninclouse2000 said:

Out of curiosity what is left besides frieghters like these and the dornean gunship? I can’t think of any other ships from the ot timeline. Original trilogy stuff is hopefully all we will see in this game. I pray we never see prequel or force awakens ships in armada. They can make new games for those eras instead of mixing timelines.

To take it a logical conclusion, if you assume there's only the Dornean Gunship to go for combat vessels:

You're okay with Armada effectively being a dead-release game if there is nothing else?

The tetrahedron freighter is Imperial. While the new one is neutral they could easily make it Rebel.

20 minutes ago, ninclouse2000 said:

Out of curiosity what is left besides frieghters like these and the dornean gunship? I can’t think of any other ships from the ot timeline. Original trilogy stuff is hopefully all we will see in this game. I pray we never see prequel or force awakens ships in armada. They can make new games for those eras instead of mixing timelines.

There is a TON of other combat ships they could release. Sure, you might have to start tapping some EU stuff, but FFG has no issues with that.

FFG could always create more ships (with approval of course). The Raider was created by FFG for X-wing. It was brought to Armada. It appears in the video games now. It's a canon ship. It's not unreasonable for FFG to create more ships.

You may not want prequel or stuff from the new trilogy, but you're likely in the minority there. It opens up a lot more possibilities.

The flotillas we have were needed, and well received. But additional non-combat ships might be a tough sell for FFG. This is a combat based game after all. More expensive unarmed freighters would be a tough include. They don't look all that cool. Would it sell well? If you make them cheap, you run into reigniting the activation issues that were created with the flotillas.

3 minutes ago, kmanweiss said:

FFG could always create more ships (with approval of course). The Raider was created by FFG for X-wing. It was brought to Armada. It appears in the video games now. It's a canon ship. It's not unreasonable for FFG to create more ships.

It may be unreasonable to consider a "one-off" as precedent to do more

Also, EU stuff isn't necessarily off limits, but it has to be carefully considered and approved.

There's also a whole bunch of canon combat ships left undone.

In one of the old threads I collected a bunch of images of various classes at the Battle of Endor and the ESB Rebel fleet that werent ever seen again or given class names.

6 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

It may be unreasonable to consider a "one-off" as precedent to do more

Also, EU stuff isn't necessarily off limits, but it has to be carefully considered and approved.

I think it is precedent though.

FFG needed an Imperial ship that worked in the X-Wing scale that could be considered Epic. There was nothing that fit this category. FFG went to LA and offered up an idea. Create a new ship, get it approved, make sure it works for the IP, make it canon.

If FFG scraped the bottom of the barrel for combat ships and came up dry, and isn't willing to, or can't move into the prequels or new trilogy. Creating new ships wouldn't be out of line. And there would be easy ways to do it. Later versions of prequel ships or early versions of new trilogy ships.

LA gets to use the new material in games, novels, comics, etc. FFG gets to continue development of the game (and continue paying LA for the right to do so). It's a win/win.

It's not the most likely scenario, and certainly not a first step (there is a lot of useable material left), but it's not outside the realm of possibility.

I wilfully admit I'm just bitter and Jaded.

1 hour ago, ninclouse2000 said:

Out of curiosity what is left besides frieghters like these and the dornean gunship? I can’t think of any other ships from the ot timeline. Original trilogy stuff is hopefully all we will see in this game. I pray we never see prequel or force awakens ships in armada. They can make new games for those eras instead of mixing timelines.

Hm...I'm not much of an EU guy. But here's a few things:

Assault Frigate MK1

Braha'tok Gunship

Tector Star Destroyer

Venator Star Destroyer

Carrack Cruiser

Nebulon B-2 Frigate

Plus whatever they make up for the Han Solo Movie and any other movies coming out.

I am still holding out in the vain hope that one day we shall be provided with a Venator. Say what you will about the prequel era, but the ship designs were downright gorgeous

2 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

To take it a logical conclusion, if you assume there's only the Dornean Gunship to go for combat vessels:

You're okay with Armada effectively being a dead-release game if there is nothing else?

They could pump out campaigns still. They could make a new armada game focusing on the new movies. I personally don’t want the trilogies mixed into the same game the way x wing is mixing them. Making a new game for that era would be my preference not that my opinion is very important.

29 minutes ago, ricefrisbeetreats said:

Hm...I'm not much of an EU guy. But here's a few things:

Assault Frigate MK1

Braha'tok Gunship

Tector Star Destroyer

Venator Star Destroyer

Carrack Cruiser

Nebulon B-2 Frigate

Plus whatever they make up for the Han Solo Movie and any other movies coming out.

I would prefer not to see anymore EU stuff brought in or at least very little. I consider the venator to be prequel era so I personally dislike it. The tector looks identical to an ISD, right? Except it for the bottom maybe. I don’t know if they could get away with releasing the ISD for a third time. Just my opinions and they probably don’t carry much weight.

The Nebulon B-2 is depicted in Card art (kinda) at least...

I've already had someone argue that there is even precedence for OT Venators outside of the Prequels, since the Strikefast is mentioned in Thrawn being completely Empire, and nothing to do with the Republic (Along with V-Wing Starfighters).

But I just don't know... Honestly, I'd like to see it all eventually, because I want the game I play right now to keep growing and keep evolving, rather than spinoff other games that then takes up design space and doesn't cross over...

Frankly, OT immersion is broken the moment you put Raymus Antilles on the Board... I mean, the dude has the distinction of being the first speaking part to die in Star Wars.

... Or have Ciena Ree and Biggs on the board at the same time... The OT itself encompasses such a large period of time that there's already crossovers, and some of those crossovers are just as Jarring, if not more so than having some Prequel Trilogy stuff entering into the Original Trilogy stuff...

I mean... Even in timeline... Minister Tua dies before just about everyone else... But there she is, giving Imps a Defensive Retrofit and all...

So in the end, I figure what's already broke is already broke, can't be fixed now, no point in trying to triage it up... Keep the design space open.

4 hours ago, ninclouse2000 said:

Out of curiosity what is left besides frieghters like these and the dornean gunship? I can’t think of any other ships from the ot timeline. Original trilogy stuff is hopefully all we will see in this game. I pray we never see prequel or force awakens ships in armada. They can make new games for those eras instead of mixing timelines.

The prequel ships make perfect sense for being in this game, they are on the way out sure but they could still be used on remote worlds where ISDs aren't needed, or could be waved away as the battle being set during the earlier part of the GCW. And while you might not like EU ships there are some good designs out there. I know I'm hoping and looking forward to:

Empire: Acclamtor, Venator, Assault Gunboat, Dreadnaught, SSD.

Rebel: MC40, DP20 Corellian Gunship, Dorean Gunship.

3 hours ago, kmanweiss said:

The flotillas we have were needed, and well received. But additional non-combat ships might be a tough sell for FFG. This is a combat based game after all. More expensive unarmed freighters would be a tough include. They don't look all that cool. Would it sell well? If you make them cheap, you run into reigniting the activation issues that were created with the flotillas.

They could always sort of make them interact with different kinds of objectives, scoring more points or just gaining objective points by having them survive or get to the other edge of the board or something. I personally would just like some for campaign play, or different strategies.

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

The Nebulon B-2 is depicted in Card art (kinda) at least...

I've already had someone argue that there is even precedence for OT Venators outside of the Prequels, since the Strikefast is mentioned in Thrawn being completely Empire, and nothing to do with the Republic (Along with V-Wing Starfighters).

But I just don't know... Honestly, I'd like to see it all eventually, because I want the game I play right now to keep growing and keep evolving, rather than spinoff other games that then takes up design space and doesn't cross over...

Frankly, OT immersion is broken the moment you put Raymus Antilles on the Board... I mean, the dude has the distinction of being the first speaking part to die in Star Wars.

... Or have Ciena Ree and Biggs on the board at the same time... The OT itself encompasses such a large period of time that there's already crossovers, and some of those crossovers are just as Jarring, if not more so than having some Prequel Trilogy stuff entering into the Original Trilogy stuff...

I mean... Even in timeline... Minister Tua dies before just about everyone else... But there she is, giving Imps a Defensive Retrofit and all...

So in the end, I figure what's already broke is already broke, can't be fixed now, no point in trying to triage it up... Keep the design space open.

To be fair Cienna Ree was active in Imperial service at the same time that Biggs was around, even before the battle of Yavin.

2 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

The Nebulon B-2 is depicted in Card art (kinda) at least...

I've already had someone argue that there is even precedence for OT Venators outside of the Prequels, since the Strikefast is mentioned in Thrawn being completely Empire, and nothing to do with the Republic (Along with V-Wing Starfighters).

But I just don't know... Honestly, I'd like to see it all eventually, because I want the game I play right now to keep growing and keep evolving, rather than spinoff other games that then takes up design space and doesn't cross over...

Frankly, OT immersion is broken the moment you put Raymus Antilles on the Board... I mean, the dude has the distinction of being the first speaking part to die in Star Wars.

... Or have Ciena Ree and Biggs on the board at the same time... The OT itself encompasses such a large period of time that there's already crossovers, and some of those crossovers are just as Jarring, if not more so than having some Prequel Trilogy stuff entering into the Original Trilogy stuff...

I mean... Even in timeline... Minister Tua dies before just about everyone else... But there she is, giving Imps a Defensive Retrofit and all...

So in the end, I figure what's already broke is already broke, can't be fixed now, no point in trying to triage it up... Keep the design space open.

Good points. I don’t hate all EU ships, but I don’t like the bulk of them. There are some that would fill holes for both sides. I want more ships in this game, I’m just probably too picky on what I want.

2 hours ago, ninclouse2000 said:

I would prefer not to see anymore EU stuff brought in or at least very little. I consider the venator to be prequel era so I personally dislike it. The tector looks identical to an ISD, right? Except it for the bottom maybe. I don’t know if they could get away with releasing the ISD for a third time. Just my opinions and they probably don’t carry much weight.

The Braha'tok is in a few shots of Rogue One. Tector is one of the Star Destroyers in Return of the Jedi. It has no bulb on the underside and is missing a hangar. I think the Nebulon B-2 has shown up somewhere. There's also been Venators showing up in the Imperial Navy in books and stuff.

14 minutes ago, ricefrisbeetreats said:

The Braha'tok is in a few shots of Rogue One. Tector is one of the Star Destroyers in Return of the Jedi. It has no bulb on the underside and is missing a hangar. I think the Nebulon B-2 has shown up somewhere. There's also been Venators showing up in the Imperial Navy in books and stuff.

Yea I’m in the braha’tok bandwagon. I just refer to it as a dornean gunship. I think they’re the same thing anyways. I’m probably on board for neb b-2 also. The tector doesn’t personally interest me because it would pretty much be an ISD repaint type situation and that would worry me.

1 hour ago, ninclouse2000 said:

Yea I’m in the braha’tok bandwagon. I just refer to it as a dornean gunship. I think they’re the same thing anyways. I’m probably on board for neb b-2 also. The tector doesn’t personally interest me because it would pretty much be an ISD repaint type situation and that would worry me.

It was one of the reasons I thought that if they were to do the tector it would have been when they did a new ISD expansion like the Chimera one, but that didn't happen. I think one argument people have for it is that we only really see its bottom so the top could be designed however they wish, but eh~, I'd prefer something else.