So, most players that I have met and talk to have some fun proxying the revealed cards to see how they play.

1) Have people found him worth his 26 points?

2) What ships are people dropping in?

3) Has anyone else had the weird experience of two Raddus fleets having a hyperspace Mexican Stand-off?

I think his real experience will come when we actually have the Profundity to do some nesting egg kind of stuff.

Edit: they're dolls.. not eggs

having a decked out liberty warp in in your face is kind of scary.

A few games is all.

One where he was immediately used to deploy a pickle as far into the board as possible. The pickle was first player and had rapid launch bday.

It was interesting.

1 minute ago, Green Knight said:

A few games is all.

One where he was immediately used to deploy a pickle as far into the board as possible. The pickle was first player and had rapid launch bday.

It was interesting.

I thought it couldn't be the first activation?

1 minute ago, Green Knight said:

A few games is all.

One where he was immediately used to deploy a pickle as far into the board as possible. The pickle was first player and had rapid launch bday.

It was interesting.

did it work?

Another vs @Maturin where he used a et cr90 to place a star cruiser in a good position, backed by a pickle with Raddus on it.

that was a more usable concept

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I thought it couldn't be the first activation?

true

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I thought it couldn't be the first activation?

It can't. It was only to allow it to deploy far forward. Then it used engine techs and last first to good effect.

Ah, I see.

Sounds nice.

1 minute ago, Sybreed said:

did it work?

Kind of.

If the list had been refined and practiced, then it might become strong.

On the other hand people will learn to compensate for this trick.

So overall I say no.

I hope raddus and his ability (possibly comboed with HA objective, or profundity) will become known as:

"Slippin 'em a pickle"

3 minutes ago, Noosh said:

I hope raddus and his ability (possibly comboed with HA objective, or profundity) will become known as:

"Slippin 'em a pickle"

I think the Hyperspace Assault, Raddus, Profundity fleet has already picked up the Nesting Dolls (Nesting Ships?) moniker.

Just now, Church14 said:

I think the Hyperspace Assault, Raddus, Profundity fleet has already picked up the Nesting Dolls (Nesting Ships?) moniker.

Yeah, but which one is fun to say? I think I have the descriptive double meaning humor aspect well covered. Although nesting dolls has its own heap of that too. Curses I wish I had thought of it sooner.

I played a few games vs @comatose who was proxying Raddus.
He was running CR90 x2, a flottila, some lancers, and a pickle loaded with Bwings

Knowing when to bring in your set aside ship is super important. In our first game Comatose could have brought the pickle in face to face with my fleet on turn 2 or 3, but held off in an attempt to get gain better positioning on my VICs. Raddus's CR90 when boom later that turn (boosted capacitors <3) and that was basically the game. I'm sure a lot of people will learn this lesson really fast when their pickles and Liberties never see the board. On the flip side of that, once Raddus has done his thing, its done. Other than points you aren't going to lose any bonuses if his ship explodes in an untimely manner.

I feel like I had more thoughts on Raddus but my lunch break is running long...

I might be riding the advantage of players not having had time to mature good Counter-strategy to Raddus. He is confounding their usually deployments and causing unforced errors just by being chosen.

I’ve been running a MC80A, MC30T, MC30T, Transport Fleet geared for round 1 of CC. I’m not even deploying in a way that seems innovative, just taking advantage of extreme last deployment for the 80 and sticking it where it can hit for a turn without getting hit hard back. It works pretty well.

Anyone use him with an MC30?

1 hour ago, Warlord Zepnick said:

Anyone use him with an MC30?

Not dropping the 30 in, but using them as the delivery ships. Running 2 with Raddus has been fun.

EDIT: Fun and effective to the point that I’m finally considering buying a third MC30. Run two with two flotillas and drop the third in on some poor ship’s flank.

EDIT AGAIN: There is a very good reason Profundity is limited to Command 1 small bases

1 hour ago, Church14 said:

There is a very good reason Profundity is limited to Command 1 small bases

True dat.

15 hours ago, Church14 said:

Not dropping the 30 in, but using them as the delivery ships. Running 2 with Raddus has been fun.

EDIT: Fun and effective to the point that I’m finally considering buying a third MC30. Run two with two flotillas and drop the third in on some poor ship’s flank.

EDIT AGAIN: There is a very good reason Profundity is limited to Command 1 small bases

This is where he can be really useful. You need a fast, but sturdy delivery ship. Run that MC30 Raddus up close to a big juicy target (perhaps blocking further movement by the target), then dropping an MC30 in such a way that it can double side arc the target.

The nesting doll scenario sounds fun, but I just don't know how reasonable it really is. Take that MC30, nest the MC75, then nest a CR90 or a hammerhead. RLB a bunch of fighters and you have most of a fleet riding on that MC30. Sure, seems potent, but it's also a giant target. Your enemy gets to focus all it's efforts on your one ship making it hard to really deploy the way you want.

He's such a one trick pony. Pop him early and you win. Put too much heat on him and he'll deploy early. Even if you get to use him relatively close to what you planned, he's now dead weight, where as other commanders help throughout the battle. I kind of wonder if Profundity won't be the more influential element. If the 75 is a brawler, putting a title on it and sticking a external racked hammerhead in it, or a CR90B Dodonna's pride. When the 75 gets to punching range, deploy the extra ship and add those lead weights to your punching gloves. If you can fix an RLB and some B-wings in there on the 75, you'd have enough firepower to worry an ISD for sure.

The ability to point the ship you place any which way you want would suggest MC80 with Engine Techs. Get beyond a Big Triangle™'s front arc, plop an MC80 facing the same direction as it, and you can just rake alongside it (or even Slash two of them!) and they can't ever do anything meaningful about it.

15 hours ago, Church14 said:

Not dropping the 30 in, but using them as the delivery ships. Running 2 with Raddus has been fun.

EDIT: Fun and effective to the point that I’m finally considering buying a third MC30. Run two with two flotillas and drop the third in on some poor ship’s flank.

EDIT AGAIN: There is a very good reason Profundity is limited to Command 1 small bases

Have you been running Admo/Foresight, or Admo/Generic? (Or some other combination?)

17 minutes ago, svelok said:

Have you been running Admo/Foresight, or Admo/Generic? (Or some other combination?)

It’s a test run CC fleet. The entire fleet so far:

MC80C/ECM

MC30T/OE

MC30T/OE/Raddus

Transport

Green/Rogue/Corran/Jan/VCX/1300/1300

I intend for it to be Admo and a generic. Not sure if Raddus will go in Admo or not.

My generic matches where he excelled was a doom pickle with the Home One title, a Transport, and two AFmk2 with Gunnery Team and TRC. Shara/Tycho as screen. I haven’t tried MC30s with him in free play yet.

Between CC prep and generic matches, I’m finding Salvage Run to be a good objective for Raddus. The big mess in the middle makes my opponents leary of sending large ships in (80 Free points) or they send in a swarm and I drop doom pickle on them right by the station.

18 hours ago, Warlord Zepnick said:

Anyone use him with an MC30?

I ran Raddus with an Antilles/External Racks Hammerhead swarm with Admo in hyperspace.

Having 6 activations even with Admo off the table made the delivery strong, and the idea was to drop the MC30 in and double side arc a target while the hammerheads held it in position until Admo could activate and delete it.

It worked alright, except against skilled opponents who used their flotillas and squads spread out around my ships preventing admo from even deploying. Once this started to happen, I realized how precisely placed squadrons could COMPLETELY mess up Raddus and I stopped experimenting with him.

I think he is a fun trick. He will be a total CC pick for me just for his AOA utility. But other than that, he doesn't bring anything to the tournament scene that shakes things up.

17 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

I ran Raddus with an Antilles/External Racks Hammerhead swarm with Admo in hyperspace.

Having 6 activations even with Admo off the table made the delivery strong, and the idea was to drop the MC30 in and double side arc a target while the hammerheads held it in position until Admo could activate and delete it.

It worked alright, except against skilled opponents who used their flotillas and squads spread out around my ships preventing admo from even deploying. Once this started to happen, I realized how precisely placed squadrons could COMPLETELY mess up Raddus and I stopped experimenting with him.

I think he is a fun trick. He will be a total CC pick for me just for his AOA utility. But other than that, he doesn't bring anything to the tournament scene that shakes things up.

I’m not sure MC30s are his best ship to drop. I’ve been using Home Ones and other local players are using Liberties. Having a drop that doesn’t rely on point-blank-range is apparently a significant difference and it makes it a lot riskier to jam up. I have deployed Raddus’ drop fairly far out and still getting a big advantage.

Also, how is an opponent stopping deployment when you have six ships on the table? If you are packing your TFA hammerheads in tight, then you are playing Raddus wrong (like turning your front arc towards enemies when flying Ackbar). Raddus seems to require (or at least excel with) a more spread out fleet.

Raddus and profundity are going to make alot of fun.

I personally think that the profundity title will breath some serious life into the hammerhead (not saying it dead or anything) imagine external rack hh being dropped into optimal position. Or a garel's honor smashing into an ISD with no heads up to shoot um down. It's gonna be awesome.