4 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Well, considering that those "street clothes", as you put it, were designed as light weight armor, similar to what we have in this game, yes, they could be made to be vacuum sealed.

I think this picture says more than a thousand words:

5 hours ago, themensch said:

I appreciate your opinion, but I do not share it. I like how Nytwyng is pointing out the absurdity of clinging steadfastly to the validity of dialog as canon or not, and how it is widely open to interpretation.

Now that we have multiple canonical examples that being exposed to the vacuum of space doesn't affect humans, I would posit that if Toydarians are immune to the force, Humans are immune to the vacuum of space. This wasn't dialog, this was actually depicted.

Precisely, star wars is completely and utterly absurd. Personally I think any strong minded individual who is aware of a Jedi can resist a mind trick; it's a mind trick rather then mental domination which seems to be a more intrusive varition (trying to force their way into one mind's, as apposed to influncing thought patterns.)

That being said, a species being immune to mental manipulation is fine; some species have naturally complex mental pathways that may be naturally hard to shift. It's like midacholorians, as a scientists some particles being detected in association to a health condition is perfectly natural. Especially if that health condiction is heroin abuse.

Humans being immune to space isn't strictly true, but then star wars doesn't much care for physics as there are breathable air within a vicious space worm. That and I guess from the perspective of the plot; not being able to survive in space isn't really important; with the excusion of that one time grevious sucked himself out into space and had his suit prepared for space vogues. If only my group had followed that in the early days, I wouldn't have lost two characters to suffocating in space. Yeah, I still really dislike certain members of my group over their tendency to smash glass 5 years on.

13 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Well, considering that those "street clothes", as you put it, were designed as light weight armor, similar to what we have in this game, yes, they could be made to be vacuum sealed.

A turtleneck with matching pants and a vest plus driving gloves is “lightweight armor” now?

Just now, Nytwyng said:

A turtleneck with matching pants and a vest plus driving gloves is “lightweight armor” now?

The game does include padded armor, armored clothing, etc, all of which is considered armor and provides Soak against wounds, so, yes. And if you look at both Ezra's clothes and Kanan's they both have thick padding and/or armor plates attached to them, so yes, that is armor.

2 hours ago, Desslok said:

Man, Vader was almost certainly producing a constant stream of poop. If I had a cybernetic catheter (and a lava fried dong) probably one of the few pleasures I would enjoy would be pooping myself at meetings

Just to lower the tone of the argument a little more...

This is pretty much precisely what happens in the Mass Effect: Citadel DLC if you take Tali along. Before the final battle, Tali (who wears a sealed vacuum suit that's very form-fitting...) says that she needs to use the ladies' room before the big fight. She then says 'Ahhhh...! Okay, now I'm good to go...'

(tone now raised once more, back to your scheduled argument about high-brow stuff)

1 hour ago, Tramp Graphics said:

The game does include padded armor, armored clothing, etc, all of which is considered armor and provides Soak against wounds, so, yes. And if you look at both Ezra's clothes and Kanan's they both have thick padding and/or armor plates attached to them, so yes, that is armor.

So, by Ezra having a shin plate of armor, he’s protected from the vacuum of space in a turtleneck, pants, vest, and driving gloves?

9 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

So, by Ezra having a shin plate of armor, he’s protected from the vacuum of space in a turtleneck, pants, vest, and driving gloves?

His gloves cover his entire hand and extend into his sleeves, leaving no exposed skin. The same is true of his neckline when wearing his helmet. His jumpsuit looks very much like a standard star fighter pilot's flight suit, which are vacuum sealed.

7 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

His gloves cover his entire hand and extend into his sleeves, leaving no exposed skin. The same is true of his neckline when wearing his helmet. His jumpsuit looks very much like a standard star fighter pilot's flight suit, which are vacuum sealed.

You’re really reaching, my friend.

A teenager who’d never left his home planet nor had any prospects of doing so prior to meeting the Ghost crew wore a fighter flight suit as a matter of course? And we saw the exposed skin in other shots.

Know what else “looks very much like a standard starfighter pilot’s flight suit?”

How much vacuum protection would you say that offers?

1 hour ago, Nytwyng said:

You’re really reaching, my friend.

A teenager who’d never left his home planet nor had any prospects of doing so prior to meeting the Ghost crew wore a fighter flight suit as a matter of course? And we saw the exposed skin in other shots.

Know what else “looks very much like a standard starfighter pilot’s flight suit?”

How much vacuum protection would you say that offers?

Except that those have short sleeves and are a very light-weight fabric. Ezra's jumpsuit is a thicker, padded outfit with full sleeves and tightened cuffs around the wrists and ankles. It's a flightsuit.

11 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Except that those have short sleeves and are a very light-weight fabric. Ezra's jumpsuit is a thicker, padded outfit with full sleeves and tightened cuffs around the wrists and ankles. It's a flightsuit.

Your source of confirmation that it’s a flight suit? I have a padded coat with full sleeves and tightened cuffs around the wrists. Are you saying that wearing it will protect me from the vacuum of space?

Why was a street thief getting around in a flight suit?

Would make sense once his Rebel career starts but his outfit hasn't changed.

3 hours ago, Maelora said:

Just to lower the tone of the argument a little more...

How dare you! We are arguing the epitome of human achievement, e.g. "what some guy said in a movie is factually consistent although other examples of people doing and saying things are not canonical and the same rules don't apply to all situations you have to interpret it the way it was intended and any other way is wrong." You know, more or less the same thing humans have been fighting over since the beginning of time.

4 hours ago, themensch said:

I think this picture says more than a thousand words:

Ain't nobody talking about this picture where Ezra is clearly in open space without any sort of helmet. Okay, maybe his street punk clothes are vacuum sealed, but without a helmet....

7 minutes ago, themensch said:

Ain't nobody talking about this picture where Ezra is clearly in open space without any sort of helmet. Okay, maybe his street punk clothes are vacuum sealed, but without a helmet....

Actually, at that point he is within an atmosphere, not a vacuum.

3 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Actually, at that point he is within an atmosphere, not a vacuum.

A magical, wonderful atmosphere.

6 minutes ago, themensch said:

A magical, wonderful atmosphere.

I don't know about that, but it is an atmosphere. You can see the gases all around him.

4 hours ago, Maelora said:

Just to lower the tone of the argument a little more...

This is pretty much precisely what happens in the Mass Effect: Citadel DLC if you take Tali along. Before the final battle, Tali (who wears a sealed vacuum suit that's very form-fitting...) says that she needs to use the ladies' room before the big fight. She then says 'Ahhhh...! Okay, now I'm good to go...'

(tone now raised once more, back to your scheduled argument about high-brow stuff)

If you make me play that game again, and buy that DLC just for that bit, I will get mildly irked.

3 hours ago, korjik said:

If you make me play that game again, and buy that DLC just for that bit, I will get mildly irked.

You want to see the real ending, don't you?

(honestly, while ME3's ending sucked, Citadel more than makes up for it... You always wanted to have a big party with all your companions at your swanky pad? Always wanted to bring all of your friends to a final battle, not just two? Of course you did!)

14 hours ago, Tramp Graphics said:

I don't know about that, but it is an atmosphere. You can see the gases all around him.

You sure can, but I seem to recall those being volatile gases harvested for fuel. But hey, maybe they're breathable.

10 minutes ago, themensch said:

You sure can, but I seem to recall those being volatile gases harvested for fuel. But hey, maybe they're breathable.

Aaaand as a bonus, a by-product of this breathable gasoline is plot armor! Expect the Imperial tariffs to skyrocket!

19 minutes ago, themensch said:

You sure can, but I seem to recall those being volatile gases harvested for fuel. But hey, maybe they're breathable.

Not entirely, no. This is why Ezra's passed out. However, on the plus side, he isn't suffering from explosive decompression.

45 minutes ago, JorArns said:

Aaaand as a bonus, a by-product of this breathable gasoline is plot armor! Expect the Imperial tariffs to skyrocket!

Holy moley, I wonder if humans could innately enter hyperspace by breathing that fuel.

Hyperdrives are overrated

16 hours ago, Maelora said:

You want to see the real ending, don't you?

(honestly, while ME3's ending sucked, Citadel more than makes up for it... You always wanted to have a big party with all your companions at your swanky pad? Always wanted to bring all of your friends to a final battle, not just two? Of course you did!)

Irked, I tell you! Irked!

I dont think it was just the endng that sucked. They did alot of poor game design in the game that blew up a billion dollar franchise