So link batteries is small ship only. We got that but what would happen if the small ship only restriction was removed. Apparently the playtesters thought it would have been too good so they put in the restriction. But lets go over some of the Large cannon ships just to compare interaction. (2 points seems rather high for a small ship only upgrade).

The first ship that comes to mind is obviously the only ship with two cannons and that is the IG-2000 Aggressor. Given the HLC and IG-88B combos this seems like a primary canidate. However with more rerolls it might make the B pilot less necessary and maybe get some C-D combos or even bring out the A. But you cant argue that rerolls and a 2nd chance makes for a scary prospect.

Another ship that doesn't need much help is the YT-2400. When Fat Han started to wain in the meta this large rebel turret has taken over. Of course the Outrider title does nothing for this upgrade. But looking at one pilot which could never use the title might have been a boon. But odds are it would have likely found its way on a Budget Dash instead of Vrill.

Now for the sad news is that the Firespray gets no love and we all know it could use some. This would have been the only cannon upgrade slot to work on both arcs. At 2 points it would have been perfectly priced but because of the abuse potential the previous two had this ship could not catch a break.

Back to old Imperial ships that wouldn't benefit so much is the The Lambda shuttle. Again with gunner could have made for an interesting buzzsaw 2.0. But again how would that be more effective than a Palp shuttle. Ig guess you could always try Palp and 2 Buzzsaws if it fit.

And back to the scum we have this cannon carrier. Kind of a wired one where a pilot already has an ability that allows it to fire in aux side arcs as well as primary arc. Bosk wants mangler anyways but it could have made crits a little bit more possible with the rerolls.

Well that is all the large ships with a cannon slot that can't take linked batteries. When looking at the pricing at 2 points I think that was including both large and small ships. With the small ship only restriction I believe it could have gotten away with being only 1 point. However at 2 points apparently it was broken on some of the larger ships. So what is your opinion on it? Would it have been broken? If you could take it on large ships what pilot would take it and what would your list be?

Maybe it will affect to future unknown ships.

The only issue with large ships and linked batteries now is giving some love to the possibility of a list with cheap brobots (Maybe A and C) with inaldra as attani feeder. For example:

IGG-88C: AT, IG-2000, Mindlink, Linked Battery, Glitterstim.

IGG-88A: Same.

Inaldra: "Light Scyk", Mindlink.

No, it would have been fine.

Would have been fine if they added an 'in Arc' restriction.

Just now, Hannes Solo said:

Would have been fine if they added an 'in Arc' restriction.

That would only have affected the YT2400. UNless you mean primary arc.

NONE of the ships above are meta powerhouses except the 2400, and that's only Dash - who would be dreadful with only a 2 die primary, even a really good one.

Yeah but

1st No turret ever needs extra help and

2nd Just to be sure (for the future)

EDIT: plus I meant primary arc
EDIT2: Restricting it to the primary arc would make sense thematically

primary arc only would be cool, but the poor Firespray

I still maintain it would have been fine at 0 with the current restrictions, or at 2 without them, but 2 with them just makes it painfully 'only gunboats need apply' right now.

As far as I can see it, Aggressors are the main reason for the restriction. Everything else would benefit, but most would like other upgrades over LB anyways.

Honestly, I can not fathom anyone taking LB over Outrider+HLC on a YT 2400 into serious consideration, and even for 2 points, there are usually better ways for that particular ship.

That poor Firespray, though...

Aggressors would be fine with it.

It means they get a more flexible reroll and free up their system slot a bit - but they're hardly meta-defining right now.

It's certainly fine on all current large ships. It's a big shame that it's small ship, because there's a ton of Firespray players who have been waiting years for this to come along!

7 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:

It's certainly fine on all current large ships. It's a big shame that it's small ship, because there's a ton of Firespray players who have been waiting years for this to come along!

Hey! I am starting to fly all my firespray with andrasta+Bomblet and I think it is certainly a firespray-like fix

Bomblet certainly helps. I've flown Bomblet Boba a couple of times, it's pretty nice.

I'm really not seeing any reason why Linked Batteries should have been limited to small ship only, especially when you're charging 2 points for it.

It's a bit of a wasted opportunity in my book.

I'd agree.

A cannon-fire-control-system is not all that bad when you have the option for an FCS anyway - but a firespray or YV-666, cheap primary weapon upgrades would have been nice.

calculation/recon specialist and markmanship bossk cares not about mangler cannons and isn't locked to primary arc, but dengar/k4 crew is a better option for the points.

That said this option would open up dengar/bossk as a pair with a spare crew slot on bossk.... which is kinda bad.....

Being able to get a primary reroll on a YV without using the crew slot would be neat, but a single reroll isn't going to break it.

Bossk's best option by far at the moment is Scavenger Crane and ordnance, anyway.

I disagree on IG-88 being the real issue - they already had access to predator for flexible rerolls, and FCS for 'whoops, missed, face another with full mods lol' as it was. It's more attractive on non-88B models, and even then, it's... fine.

No, I feel it's, ironically enough, probably the firesprays. Yeah, they had access to rerolls in both ept and crew slots before, but my money on the 'nope, gotta nerf' being

Kath + opportunist + tailgunner + linked

... For a 6-die, agility-reducing, focus-and-rerolls buttlazer of doom.

It's a silly build, but it's the only one that really strikes me as off-putting.

16 minutes ago, Reiver said:

It's a silly build, but it's the only one that really strikes me as off-putting.

That actually looks like it would have been a fun build, but it would still have been shut down by stress and requires the opponent to have no tokens. It's hardly a Rey/Kanan/Finn Falcon, is it?

21 minutes ago, Reiver said:

I disagree on IG-88 being the real issue - they already had access to predator for flexible rerolls, and FCS for 'whoops, missed, face another with full mods lol' as it was. It's more attractive on non-88B models, and even then, it's... fine.

No, I feel it's, ironically enough, probably the firesprays. Yeah, they had access to rerolls in both ept and crew slots before, but my money on the 'nope, gotta nerf' being

Kath + opportunist + tailgunner + linked

... For a 6-die, agility-reducing, focus-and-rerolls buttlazer of doom.

It's a silly build, but it's the only one that really strikes me as off-putting.

And it wouldn't be possible if LB was restricted to Primary Arc. As I said limit it to primary arc and it would be fine. Makes fluff-sense too.

4 minutes ago, Hannes Solo said:

And it wouldn't be possible if LB was restricted to Primary Arc. As I said limit it to primary arc and it would be fine. Makes fluff-sense too.

Don't disagree; don't know why they didn't. Shrug.

Linked batteries would not have been broken on a large ship. However, I has been my observation that during the past few waves, FFG has been really careful about making any upgrade that could be very good being small ship only. I think it is not a question of discrimination, but rather a design decisions in order not to paint themselves in a corner in the long run. While I would love my IG-88 to get a leg up, I think it is a good decision design wise. They have to be careful not to create a potential broken combo down the road.

Now if they could introduce a few upgrades that are large ship only, I would certainly enjoy that!

4 hours ago, Marinealver said:

So link batteries is small ship only. We got that but what would happen if the small ship only restriction was removed. Apparently the playtesters thought it would have been too good so they put in the restriction. But lets go over some of the Large cannon ships just to compare interaction. (2 points seems rather high for a small ship only upgrade).

The first ship that comes to mind is obviously the only ship with two cannons and that is the IG-2000 Aggressor. Given the HLC and IG-88B combos this seems like a primary canidate. However with more rerolls it might make the B pilot less necessary and maybe get some C-D combos or even bring out the A. But you cant argue that rerolls and a 2nd chance makes for a scary prospect.

Another ship that doesn't need much help is the YT-2400. When Fat Han started to wain in the meta this large rebel turret has taken over. Of course the Outrider title does nothing for this upgrade. But looking at one pilot which could never use the title might have been a boon. But odds are it would have likely found its way on a Budget Dash instead of Vrill.

Now for the sad news is that the Firespray gets no love and we all know it could use some. This would have been the only cannon upgrade slot to work on both arcs. At 2 points it would have been perfectly priced but because of the abuse potential the previous two had this ship could not catch a break.

Back to old Imperial ships that wouldn't benefit so much is the The Lambda shuttle. Again with gunner could have made for an interesting buzzsaw 2.0. But again how would that be more effective than a Palp shuttle. Ig guess you could always try Palp and 2 Buzzsaws if it fit.

And back to the scum we have this cannon carrier. Kind of a wired one where a pilot already has an ability that allows it to fire in aux side arcs as well as primary arc. Bosk wants mangler anyways but it could have made crits a little bit more possible with the rerolls.

Well that is all the large ships with a cannon slot that can't take linked batteries. When looking at the pricing at 2 points I think that was including both large and small ships. With the small ship only restriction I believe it could have gotten away with being only 1 point. However at 2 points apparently it was broken on some of the larger ships. So what is your opinion on it? Would it have been broken? If you could take it on large ships what pilot would take it and what would your list be?

It could work if it was Imperial only. (instead of small ship only)

3 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

I'm really not seeing any reason why Linked Batteries should have been limited to small ship only, especially when you're charging 2 points for it.

It's a bit of a wasted opportunity in my book.

I am really starting to wish this upgrade would have been 0pt and "Imperial Only", that would have helped the Imperial Firespray, /D Defender, and Lambda, and made the cannon gunboat really good...there are too many too many Rebel/Scum only upgrades anyway.

Ninjaed by @Odanan

40 minutes ago, dotswarlock said:

Linked batteries would not have been broken on a large ship. However, I has been my observation that during the past few waves, FFG has been really careful about making any upgrade that could be very good being small ship only. I think it is not a question of discrimination, but rather a design decisions in order not to paint themselves in a corner in the long run. While I would love my IG-88 to get a leg up, I think it is a good decision design wise. They have to be careful not to create a potential broken combo down the road.

I agree it is good incorporate some limits to avoid cornering yourself in the future... and sure they TRY to do that now, unfortunately there were a period where they did not do that and some of these cards are still around and available to a certain OP low cost platform.

14 minutes ago, Sciencius said:

I am really starting to wish this upgrade would have been 0pt and "Imperial Only", that would have helped the Imperial Firespray, /D Defender, and Lambda, and made the cannon gunboat really good...there are too many too many Rebel/Scum only upgrades anyway.

If you're taking this on a Defender, why bother taking the /D title? This takes up the cannon slot, and you're not firing with it, so the title never triggers. I guess the title's 0-cost, so there's no real detriment to taking it, just no real benefit either.

Reading through the previous replies, I really like the idea of Imperial only. Whether there's a change to a cheaper point cost, I can't say yes or no to that, but adding to the Imp Firesprays, Lambdas and the obvious Gunboat seems good (I don't see the use for TIE/D). I've been looking for reasons to run Fettigator again.