Tournament Rules Released

By nungunz, in Legend of the Five Rings: The Card Game

V1.01 now reads:

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Deck Building
Each player must build one dynasty and one conflict deck, select one stronghold and five provinces, and may use their clan’s role card in a tournament. The clan affiliation of a player’s chosen stronghold is the clan affiliation for both of his or her decks and his or her selected provinces. It also determines which role the player may use.

Each dynasty deck must contain a minimum of 40 and a maximum of 45 cards. A dynasty deck can include only in-clan and neutral cards. Each conflict deck must contain a minimum of 40 and a maximum of 45 cards. A conflict deck can include in-clan and neutral cards. It can also include out-of-faction cards —from a single faction— up to the maximum influence allowed on the player’s chosen stronghold. A conflict deck cannot include more than 10 character cards total. A player cannot include more than 3 copies of a single card, by title, in any combination of their dynasty and conflict decks.

I'm asking about the Russian chess strategy.

43 minutes ago, DarkHorse said:

V1.01 now reads:

Huzzah, loopholes closed!

6 minutes ago, Mirith said:

Huzzah, loopholes closed!

Meh, the province requirements aren't written in (one province from each element and no more than one copy of each province, by name).

52 minutes ago, DarkHorse said:

V1.01 now reads:

Seems like it should read as follows (move the last sentence from under Dynasty paragraph to first, general paragraph):

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Deck Building
Each player must build one dynasty and one conflict deck, select one stronghold and five provinces, and may use their clan’s role card in a tournament. The clan affiliation of a player’s chosen stronghold is the clan affiliation for both of his or her decks and his or her selected provinces. It also determines which role the player may use. A player cannot include more than 3 copies of a single card, by title, in any combination of their dynasty and conflict decks.

Each dynasty deck must contain a minimum of 40 and a maximum of 45 cards. A dynasty deck can include only in-clan and neutral cards. Each conflict deck must contain a minimum of 40 and a maximum of 45 cards. A conflict deck can include in-clan and neutral cards. It can also include out-of-faction cards —from a single faction— up to the maximum influence allowed on the player’s chosen stronghold. A conflict deck cannot include more than 10 character cards total.

Yeah, I do this stuff for a living. People don't like me much...

2 minutes ago, Khudzlin said:

Meh, the province requirements aren't written in (one province from each element and no more than one copy of each province, by name).

Sigh. I guess I can run just all Ancestral Lands and Entrenched Positions then!

5 hours ago, mplain said:

Is this documented anywhere online? I'd like to read about it.

I read about it years ago in a book about Fischer's ascent as chess champion. Try searching for it, there may even be more information available since the book came out... I remember Fischer resurfaced this issue at some point years later about Russians playing to quick mindless draws when against each other.

2 hours ago, qwertyuiop said:

Just trying to keep you from getting punched in the teeth in the event you think about giving in to the temptation to pull any of the nonsense you were talking about :)

I was just sharing because I have been a TO for many ccgs/LCGs since the 90s before players even used sleeves. I know it because I have seen it, but never done it.

1 hour ago, Khudzlin said:

Meh, the province requirements aren't written in (one province from each element and no more than one copy of each province, by name).

Pg. 6:

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A player must choose exactly five provinces, one associated with each of the five rings . All chosen provinces must be in-clan or neutral.

The 3 copies of a single card by title requirement isn't listed, and I have emailed Nate about it.

@GmanSix Foiled by incomplete quotes.

And I already got a reply from Nate...

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Yes, this issue has also been brought to the attention of our organized play team.
The max 3 per title rule is still a part of the game’s official deckbuilding for tournaments, and the Tourney Rules document will be updated to reflect this.
Thanks for the message!

I also sent this to him prior to his reply:

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Add to it, the following: No more than 1 copy of each province, by title, may be included in a player’s set of provinces.


Edited by GmanSix
On ‎10‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 6:57 AM, Evilgm said:

Except that for the rounds that such scouting would payoff (i.e. after the cut) you have to show your opponent your decklist anyway.

On ‎10‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 10:55 AM, Duciris said:

I'm not seeing that in the TR, am I blind?

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/op/world-championships/nov/ which contains the https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/f7/5c/f75ce38c-f89c-4a8c-9fe9-affce29bc1ac/2017b_l5c_schedule.pdf document. I now see your point. Which you made a day before the document came out.

Burn the Witch!

Of other note.

1 hour ago, Mirith said:

Sigh. I guess I can run just all Ancestral Lands and Entrenched Positions then!

Oh. I'll run Endless Plains, 2 copies of Restoration of Balance and... I don't know...2 Shameful Displays? Crane for the Win!

And here's why closing those loopholes becomes all the more important (this was also added as of v. 1.01):

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If there is a discrepancy between the Rules Reference and Tournament Regulations, the Tournament Regulations take precedence.

14 minutes ago, Zesu Shadaban said:

And here's why closing those loopholes becomes all the more important (this was also added as of v. 1.01):

I think this makes sense to state, since you need to be able to tell, but yeah, I agree.