Hi guys,

I am building two (!) tournament lists from a mutual pool, one for the Empire, one for the Rebels. The rebels have more ship options open to them, I own a pack of everything rebel, so I tried to optimize the imperial fleet as best as I could for my friend and I get the leftovers
Atm we don't even have a Gozanti.

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 400/400

Commander: Moff Jerjerrod

Assault Objective: Blockade Run (I am really lost on this front, the red objective is tricky)
Defense Objective: Contested Outpost
Navigation Objective: Mine Fields

[ flagship ] Imperial II-Class Star Destroyer (120 points)
- Moff Jerjerrod ( 23 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)
= 167 total ship cost

Gladiator I-Class Star Destroyer (56 points)
- Demolisher ( 10 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 75 total ship cost

Arquitens-class Light Cruiser (54 points)
- Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points)
= 59 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Flechette Torpedoes ( 3 points)
= 51 total ship cost

6 TIE Fighter Squadrons ( 48 points)

and for the Rebels:

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 400/400

Commander: General Dodonna

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Contested Outpost
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona (I only have one Corellian Conflict, so I am debating making this the imperial objective)

[ flagship ] MC80 Star Cruiser (96 points)
- General Dodonna ( 20 points)
- Endeavor ( 4 points)
- Raymus Antilles ( 7 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Nav Team ( 4 points)
- SW 7 Ion Batteries ( 5 points) [well here I have the issue that I only have one leading shots, which kinda limits the options here a lot]
= 143 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Jainas Light ( 2 points)
- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points)
= 53 total ship cost

Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points)
- Salvation ( 7 points)
- Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points)
= 63 total ship cost

MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)
- Admonition ( 8 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- H9 Turbolasers ( 8 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 88 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 20 total ship cost

1 Shara Bey ( 17 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)

Thoughts on any or both fleets are welcome, especially on the objectives.

Rebel list is quite squadron light, you never know what you may face in a tournament so i would personally drop the GR75 and tycho for 3 generic A wings and 3 points as a bid

1 hour ago, DrakonLord said:

Rebel list is quite squadron light, you never know what you may face in a tournament so i would personally drop the GR75 and tycho for 3 generic A wings and 3 points as a bid

Granted squadron coverage is thin, but I really don't know about changing it up

Last tournament at the same store no one brought anything with more than a hundred points of Fighters and that one list had not nearly enough squadron points to use them effectively/activate them.

The LMC80 wants to do everything but activate squadrons, and the GR-75 not only helps out with that problem it also pads my activations.

So I hear your point but I am unsure whether or not I want to change the list up to adress bomber lists and if so, what to do exactly.

Rebel List:

The Tycho and Shara pair should be fine.

Maybe drop the CR90 or salvation, the firepower that the MC30 and the liberty kick out is enough on their own.

Imperial List:

Drop the raider or arquitens, and add two gozantis, and then pick Most Wanted for your red objective.

5 hours ago, Doppelganger said:

Granted squadron coverage is thin, but I really don't know about changing it up

Last tournament at the same store no one brought anything with more than a hundred points of Fighters and that one list had not nearly enough squadron points to use them effectively/activate them.

The LMC80 wants to do everything but activate squadrons, and the GR-75 not only helps out with that problem it also pads my activations.

So I hear your point but I am unsure whether or not I want to change the list up to adress bomber lists and if so, what to do exactly.

This list has 4 ship activations without the GR75 - shara plus 3 Awings brings activation up to 6 total, gives you a bid, is easily commanded with the ships you have if needed (and lets be honest here they dont need to be squadron commanded, they just need to keep any potential bombers off of your ships for a round or two.)

While i can see your hesitance, if you want to win at a tournament you need to be somewhat balanced (opinion!!! Not necessarily fact! Dont sue!!!)

Bringing tycho and shara may seem fine based on previous experience, but i know i hate it when i assume based on previous experience that something wont happen, then it does.

(Ive brought a full 134pts of space superiority squadrons to a casual game once thinking my opponent would bring his normal 13/14squadrons of ties only for him to bring 3 tie fighters. Made me feel like i over reacted but hey, the squadrons even though they werent bombers took out the ties then just threw red and blue dice at his victory till it died)

On the other hand though if you arent comfortable with my suggestions dont listen to me- its more important that you are comfortable with flying a list you know

11 hours ago, anonymousguy said:

Rebel List:

The Tycho and Shara pair should be fine.

Maybe drop the CR90 or salvation, the firepower that the MC30 and the liberty kick out is enough on their own.

Imperial List:

Drop the raider or arquitens, and add two gozantis, and then pick Most Wanted for your red objective.

Sadly I have no Gozantis
And I can't promise that any will be purchased before the tournament.

What would you suggest instead of the CR90/Salvation ?

10 hours ago, DrakonLord said:

but i know i hate it when i assume based on previous experience that something wont happen, then it does.

I can certainly see the wisdow of these words

I don't know why but Rebel fleets always leave me with a feeling that something is off/missing, I endlessly type one idea after the next into the squadron builder but to no avail, I remain unconvinced.

Just to illustrate my point,
Thinking through your points led me here:

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 398/400

Commander: Leia Organa

Assault Objective: Opening Salvo
Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points)
- Salvation ( 7 points)
- Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points)
= 63 total ship cost

[ flagship ] CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Leia Organa ( 38 points)
- Jainas Light ( 2 points)
- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points)
= 91 total ship cost

MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)
- Admonition ( 8 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 80 total ship cost

Nebulon-B Escort Frigate (57 points)
- Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points)
= 62 total ship cost

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36 points)
- Garel's Honor ( 4 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 47 total ship cost

1 Shara Bey ( 17 points)

1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
2 A-Wing Squadrons ( 22 points)

Which has nothing to do with the original concept xD
EDIT: Anyway thanks for your pointers, I am just not sure what I want to do yet :/

6 hours ago, Doppelganger said:

What would you suggest instead of the CR90/Salvation ?

If you drop the CR90, that gives you 53 points, which can let you get:

Comms Net flotilla

2 A-wing Squadrons,

So that leaves you with 11 points to spare, a bid would be a good choice.

21 minutes ago, anonymousguy said:

If you drop the CR90, that gives you 53 points, which can let you get:

Comms Net flotilla

2 A-wing Squadrons,

So that leaves you with 11 points to spare, a bid would be a good choice.

Okay, I think I might just do that and also put Lando on admo

Okay, I produced another iteration taking your suggestions into account:

Points: 398/400

Commander: General Dodonna

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Hyperspace Assault
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

[ flagship ] MC80 Star Cruiser (96 points)
- General Dodonna ( 20 points)
- Endeavor ( 4 points)
- Raymus Antilles ( 7 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Nav Team ( 4 points)
- XX-9 Turbolasers ( 5 points)
- SW 7 Ion Batteries ( 5 points)
= 148 total ship cost

MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)
- Admonition ( 8 points)
- Skilled First Officer ( 1 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- H9 Turbolasers ( 8 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)
= 89 total ship cost

Nebulon-B Support Refit (51 points)
- Salvation ( 7 points)
- Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points)
= 63 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Leia Organa ( 3 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 23 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 20 total ship cost

1 Shara Bey ( 17 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
2 A-Wing Squadrons ( 22 points)

Ahsoka would be a good addition, you already have two comms net flotillas and Raymus.

16 hours ago, anonymousguy said:

Ahsoka would be a good addition, you already have two comms net flotillas and Raymus.

points are certainly there, however I find a two point bid gives you lots of flexibility in picking first/second. With Admo going first is certainly a worthwhile option. I think I'll test your suggestion anyway, see how this works for me

Oh yeah, SFO on the 30 could go away since you already have Leia.

Admo definitely wants to go first, badly.

7 hours ago, Thrindal said:

Admo definitely wants to go first, badly.

True enough.
Maybe kick of SFO and H9s, add Lando to admo and Ahsoka to the empty GR-75??? 395 points.

I had a 4 point bid last tournament and went first 100% of the time. I feel like truly bidding for first (6+ points or god forbid over 10) might hamper me more than it helps

1 hour ago, Doppelganger said:

True enough.
Maybe kick of SFO and H9s, add Lando to admo and Ahsoka to the empty GR-75??? 395 points.

I had a 4 point bid last tournament and went first 100% of the time. I feel like truly bidding for first (6+ points or god forbid over 10) might hamper me more than it helps

I agree with that, heck I went to a tournament expecting my 399 would never get a bid. I got the bid in every game, straight up 399-400. It was a small tournament though. My guess is the bigger the tournament the bigger the bid required. I never usually have a bid of more than 5.