11 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

Sure, but obsticals and other ships can block that pretty easily. I just see more use out of a 4K than I do out of a red 4 straight.

Yeah I wouldn't have minded a four k either

I'm most interested in running linked HLCs which aren't going to be SLAMing a whole lot so 4ks would've been nice. Still, love what ya got and all.

Also, while I'm sure everyone so far is on board with the first turn strike jank as a good bit of fun, I just want to get these facts out of the way before some of the sillier forumites go nuts

1. Large base ships with Eu can already first turn shoot you if you move out just a little

2. Using LT Dorn to enable this silliness leaves the imp player with a fairly underwhelming ship once the jank has been done

3. neither boats nor dorn have the PS nor mobility needed to dodge or even effortlessly chase you. They don't even have turrets

4. You can shoot back

8 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Yeah I wouldn't have minded a four k either

I'm most interested in running linked HLCs which aren't going to be SLAMing a whole lot so 4ks would've been nice. Still, love what ya got and all.

Also, while I'm sure everyone so far is on board with the first turn strike jank as a good bit of fun, I just want to get these facts out of the way before some of the sillier forumites go nuts

1. Large base ships with Eu can already first turn shoot you if you move out just a little

2. Using LT Dorn to enable this silliness leaves the imp player with a fairly underwhelming ship once the jank has been done

3. neither boats nor dorn have the PS nor mobility needed to dodge or even effortlessly chase you. They don't even have turrets

4. You can shoot back

Are you saying that Operation Can't Possibly Fail might actually almost definitely maybe fail? Git Out.

Just now, Boom Owl said:

Are you saying that Operation Can't Possibly Fail might actually almost definitely maybe fail? Git Out.

Nah, just that Operation Can't Possibly Fail shouldn't turn into a salt mining operation

9 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Nah, just that Operation Can't Possibly Fail shouldn't turn into a salt mining operation

Im with you. In all seriousness though. Paired with another ship that can push up the board these things are going to be great flankers.

Even if its not round 1 at some point the gunboat will have the speed to really present some awkward choices for an opponent.