I'm not sure how many ways there are to say the same thing: the old Imperial Assembly website was owned and run by AEG, and dealt only with the CCG. There's nothing to update.
What do you expect in future of L5R (Warning: triggering for some)
18 hours ago, DailyRich said:I really think the accelerated release of the Imperial cycle is simply a one-time thing to keep a core-only environment from becoming stale. A good influx of new cards should help get some deck variety going so players don't keep running into the same seven clan decks until January.
Absolutely this.
30 minutes ago, Hinomura said:I'm not sure how many ways there are to say the same thing: the old Imperial Assembly website was owned and run by AEG, and dealt only with the CCG. There's nothing to update.
I don't think we are in the same page here. You keep focusing on the ownership and management of imperial assembly, while I am talking about getting an updated official card database with an advanced search feature, and various other tools, with regard to the koku, I'd like to at least get something out of it, if you had an abundance of that wouldn't you? You're telling me because AEG used to run the website that FFG can't do that?
Spider clan for 2nd big expansion. That's all I care about.
40 minutes ago, DarkHorse said:
I am aware of third party card databases out there. But you missed the point about it being official. And yes it matters if its official. Its important that FFG does this since they own the game, and if third parties can do it for free why can't they? You are also at the mercy of the third party updating cards when it can, and doing it for free no less how long can a person do things for free anyways? While were are on the topic I'd like to add that there should be a rules reference for each specific card which I am sure can easily be incorporated in the card database. I feel we need a centralized database that is owned by FFG or at least endorsed by FFG.
The context if fairly simple: I expect FFG to create an Imperial Assemble like database like those sites you posted, only its official, reliable, and not open for the public to edit whenever they please.
See if the context was, is there a card database for L5R then your post would definitely be a great response. Thanks for the effort anyways.
Also this is better in terms of searches: https://fiveringsdb.com/
2 minutes ago, jowisu said:I am aware of third party card databases out there. But you missed the point about it being official. And yes it matters if its official.
CardGameDB IS official. It's owned by FFG.
3 minutes ago, DailyRich said:CardGameDB IS official. It's owned by FFG.
Bingo.
I like the wiki because it is superior to an official site. It gives art history and trivia not just play stats.
Edited by DarkHorse6 minutes ago, DailyRich said:CardGameDB IS official. It's owned by FFG.
That I did not know, though I wonder why it isn't on the L5R website. Thanks. My expectations in that regard have been fulfilled. 
4 minutes ago, DarkHorse said:I like the wiki because it is superior to an official site. It gives art history and trivia not just play stats.
Fair enough, I too enjoy the wiki in that regard.
Edited by jowisuThere are websites out there that can scratch your itch, as others point out. I do very much think you have a valid point regarding cardgamedb not being linked to from the FFG website - it's probably worth dropping them an email about that as they don't monitor these boards.
As for koku, you're likely going to have to do what the rest of us did...throw thousands of it away. There is absolutely zero chance that FFG will ever do anything involving it, and nor should they - it was a marketing and promotional scheme from another company for a game no longer produced. A line has been drawn under everything from before the IP purchase...we only go forward to bigger, better things from here.
Edited by Hinomura6 hours ago, PinnacleOfJimbo said:But wouldn't it be a wonderful world if they actually did this?
The 6 packs in 6 weeks gives hope that they may come to their senses. Their current rotation model is a joke. I love the games, but hate the OP.
14 hours ago, Ersatz Nihilist said:It's really hard to work out how "fast" I want content for LCGs. I think if I had to sum up my position it would be "the larger the card pool, the slower the releases". Like, I'm incredibly happy about this 6 packs in 6 weeks thing as it'll give the card pool a massive boost and add a lot more choice to the decks you're building (one would hope, at least).
But then I recall back to when I was playing AGOT v1, with a pretty much complete card set. After a while with that I was very much shifting over to "I wish they'd just do a deluxe box twice a year". The card pool was massive, and I was struggling to keep it all in my head, especially as we have a pretty even House distribution among the people I played with. I feel in the end that I like regular packs, but after a while I'd drop them to two-monthly rather than monthly to give me time to absorb and mess about with what I've got.
That's all from the biased perspective of a filthy casual though, I don't really do tournaments and my games of L5R thus far have mostly been a "meet with some mates down the pub on a Sunday afternoon and making everyone else around you feel uncomfortable by talking about how you want to make a challenge with the Fire Ring" and all that - and I guess the opposite side to the coin is that these games can absolutely be treated as "lifestyle" games, where you'll play a lot and be continually hungry for content.
I know the solution to my side of things is to say "just buy stuff more slowly", but that means I have to tackle that voice in the back of my head which pretty much goes "you've got to buy it now. Now. Do it now. If you don't do it now, it'll sell out and you'll never be able to buy it. No? Dreamlands Cycle. **** you. Buy it". And so I do.
My playstyle is not that different from your's, but I'm afraid I have the opposite take. The card pool seems incredibly small and I'm a little worried that's going to mean a lack of variety and things getting stale. Just to give you a point of reference, the entire card pool for AGOT v1 was smaller than that of a single arc of the CCG. The CCG base set alone would have 400-500 different cards in it.
On 10/22/2017 at 0:29 AM, shosuko said:Nothing will stop being printed until it has rotated out of legal play. Legal play is already determined at this point, and it will be some time before L5R even comes close.
What FFG has done to keep L5R meta shifting is introduce Role cards which can shift the meta of a large card pool by rotating which seeker / keeper cards are used and by whom.
Right. FFG doesn't print everything continuously, but if something is still legal it will have a reprint cycle.
On 10/22/2017 at 7:11 AM, BigKahuna said:if they where, Monopoly and RISK would be the number one games on that list.
You think Monopoly would beat out Chutes/Snakes and Ladders?! (Are those considered the same game, or separate?)
On 10/22/2017 at 2:46 PM, PinnacleOfJimbo said:The roles system will only affect so much if Keeper/Seeker is the only limitation for cards. Sure, if a clan switches from one to the other, a handful of cards change legality. I'd be more interested if there were powerful neutral cards tied to element roles, etc. More things that change the meta in significant ways.
The thing is, it's not just about which cards are legal, but which cards work with the newly legal cards. For instance, the Unicorn's role cards have one that focuses on defending and one that focuses on attacking. Not only do those specific cards change legality, but other Unicorn/Neutral cards may work better on offense or defense and become more/less popular as a result. Similarly, the Crane have role cards that focus on either Duelists or Courtiers.
Many cards will no doubt be popular regardless of which role is chosen, but a changing role at least has the potential to shift the meta.
20 hours ago, jowisu said:I don't think we are in the same page here. You keep focusing on the ownership and management of imperial assembly, while I am talking about getting an updated official card database with an advanced search feature, and various other tools, with regard to the koku, I'd like to at least get something out of it, if you had an abundance of that wouldn't you? You're telling me because AEG used to run the website that FFG can't do that?
Well, they can't directly run that specific website unless it was included in the purchase.
As for koku, I would love to get something out of it, but unless someone's offering, it's not going to happen. (Personally, I'm still waiting on the order I placed with AEG in the last days of the CCG to arrive, but since AEG's customer service refuses to even acknowledge my emails, I'm not holding my breath on that, either.) People are already excited about the game. Why would FFG accept payment via product that they made no profit from, that only a relatively small number of players will even have?
29 minutes ago, JJ48 said:You think Monopoly would beat out Chutes/Snakes and Ladders?! (Are those considered the same game, or separate?)
Yeah, probably would. So would Clue. Honestly, top board game would be Checkers.
19 hours ago, Hinomura said:There are websites out there that can scratch your itch, as others point out. I do very much think you have a valid point regarding cardgamedb not being linked to from the FFG website - it's probably worth dropping them an email about that as they don't monitor these boards.
To be clear, its not just for me its for the newer players too, to help them plan out their decks, this is especially important for those on a budget.
1 hour ago, JJ48 said:As for koku, I would love to get something out of it, but unless someone's offering, it's not going to happen. (Personally, I'm still waiting on the order I placed with AEG in the last days of the CCG to arrive, but since AEG's customer service refuses to even acknowledge my emails, I'm not holding my breath on that, either.) People are already excited about the game. Why would FFG accept payment via product that they made no profit from, that only a relatively small number of players will even have?
19 hours ago, Hinomura said:As for koku, you're likely going to have to do what the rest of us did...throw thousands of it away. There is absolutely zero chance that FFG will ever do anything involving it, and nor should they - it was a marketing and promotional scheme from another company for a game no longer produced. A line has been drawn under everything from before the IP purchase...we only go forward to bigger, better things from here.
You guys are probably right. To be clear, I didn't really expect them to re implement the old koku system, I was thinking more of it being a good promotional move on FFG's part to acknowledge those who have spent so much time and money on a game they now own, you know for those who have enjoyed the previous game and are continiously supporting l5. It doesn't have to be big or expensive, at this point anything would be great.
19 hours ago, Yoritomo Reiu said:The card pool seems incredibly small and I'm a little worried that's going to mean a lack of variety and things getting stale. Just to give you a point of reference, the entire card pool for AGOT v1 was smaller than that of a single arc of the CCG. The CCG base set alone would have 400-500 different cards in it.
Yes, I agree. I cannot stress enough the need to have a list of available cards at the disposal of a player, whether casual or competitive. Allowing a period where only a few cards are available for legal play will greatly hinder the momentum this game has had so far. There are a thousand other options in terms of games for players out there that can easily distract them. I have never played net runner, don't even know how it works, but I've seen people move to other games and forget about the game, despite its potential, all because they got bored playing with the same decks while waiting for their cards to be updated. I witnessed how it got interest from many players in one month, grew exponentially, and saw the diminishing playgroup in the next month. Now only 2-4 people play it in the shop, and they recently bought L5 coresets.
I believe this game can generate income for FFG, and at the same time keep the fans happy. At the end of the day, as long as FFG can do that we all win.