Maximum Damage

By Hepitude, in Runewars Miniatures Game

Is 44 damage the most you can deal in a single turn with a single unit? That's a 4x1 Oathsworn Cavalry unit with Tempered steal and Moment of inspiration, flanking and rolling:

3 red dice - 2x hits

1 white dice - 2x hits

1 blue dice - surge/hit

Then also dialing up a hit and exhausting Tempered Steal to turn the surge into a hit. That's eleven hits x4 for a total of 44. The other combination I thought was flanking 4x1 golems rolling 3 red dice - 2x hits on each along with two Stable Runes for the turn, but that only gets me 36 hits.

Am I missing anything? Can you think of any other combinations that wind up with a higher total than the Oathsworn?

I get 45.

3x3 Spearstar w/ Front Line Golem, Hawthorne Fig upgrade, Tempered Steel, flanking

Threat = 5 (with 2 stable runes)

Base Dice - R, B

Hawthorne fig upgrade - W

Flank - R

Dialed in Hit

2 red dice - 2x hits

1 blue dice - surge/hit (tempered steel) for 2x hits

1 white dice - 2x hits

Dialed in - 1x hits

Total = 9 hits x 5 threat - 45 dmg

I could also add an eagle banner to spend inspiration as mortal strikes.

Edited by Glucose98

Spearmen, 4x2 +1 (3x3 reformed via hawthorne) with WeaponMaster, FLGolem, TempSteel and Flanking

3R, 1B, Threat6 (4wide +2stable runes)

3R = 6Hit
1B = 1Hit/Surge
Dialed in Hit

Pop tempsteel for 9hits, 9x6= 54hits

Do i win something? hehehe

Course doing more than 20 damage is insane overkill in 95% of situations lol

Edited by Vineheart01
4 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Spearmen, 4x2 +1 (3x3 reformed via hawthorne) with WeaponMaster, FLGolem, TempSteel and Flanking

3R, 1B, Threat6 (4wide +2stable runes)

3R = 6Hit
1B = 1Hit/Surge
Dialed in Hit

Pop tempsteel for 9hits, 9x6= 54hits

Do i win something? hehehe

Course doing more than 20 damage is insane overkill in 95% of situations lol

Hawthorne requires you to reform only with full ranks, so can't do a 4x2+1

If it's not single target:

Leonx with meagan and Moi while flanking can get you:

White: ss

Red: hit surge

3xblue: surge surge

So using meagans ability, 9 surges multiplied by the number of units nearby? I think the cheapest unit is a naked scion, you can fit 14 of them in a list so....

117 (9x13 I don't thing the initial target counts?) Plus the 1 hit X2 threat gives a total of

119!

9 minutes ago, Xquer said:

If it's not single target:

Leonx with meagan and Moi while flanking can get you:

White: ss

Red: hit surge

3xblue: surge surge

So using meagans ability, 9 surges multiplied by the number of units nearby? I think the cheapest unit is a naked scion, you can fit 14 of them in a list so....

117 (9x13 I don't thing the initial target counts?) Plus the 1 hit X2 threat gives a total of

119!

haha... that's amazing. Just one shot an entire 200 pt army with a single unit.

23 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Spearmen, 4x2 +1 (3x3 reformed via hawthorne) with WeaponMaster, FLGolem, TempSteel and Flanking

3R, 1B, Threat6 (4wide +2stable runes)

3R = 6Hit
1B = 1Hit/Surge
Dialed in Hit

Pop tempsteel for 9hits, 9x6= 54hits

Do i win something? hehehe

Course doing more than 20 damage is insane overkill in 95% of situations lol

That's enough to one shot a 2x3 Carrion Lancer unit!

23 minutes ago, Glucose98 said:

Hawthorne requires you to reform only with full ranks, so can't do a 4x2+1

this is one of the things ive been waiting on a response for.

I interpreted the "full rank" thing as you cant have weird shapes, such as turning a 3x3 into a 4x2x2x1 or something silly like that, the rank must be full before you can add another rank.

Otherwise odd number units can never be even threat. Which is weird.

22 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

this is one of the things ive been waiting on a response for.

I interpreted the "full rank" thing as you cant have weird shapes, such as turning a 3x3 into a 4x2x2x1 or something silly like that, the rank must be full before you can add another rank.

Otherwise odd number units can never be even threat. Which is weird.

A full rank is by definition as many trays in the rear as the front. So the +1 creates a partial rank, and is not legal. You are incorrect on odds though, 3x1 can go 1x3. 9 blocks get nothing from hawthorne.

Edited by Darthain

3x1 to 1x3 or vice versa is still an odd threat number.
Didnt say they cant benefit from hawthorn at all, i said you cant make them have an even threat value (2 or 4)

Just now, Vineheart01 said:

3x1 to 1x3 or vice versa is still an odd threat number.
Didnt say they cant benefit from hawthorn at all, i said you cant make them have an even threat value (2 or 4)

Correct.

3 hours ago, Vineheart01 said:

3x1 to 1x3 or vice versa is still an odd threat number.
Didnt say they cant benefit from hawthorn at all, i said you cant make them have an even threat value (2 or 4)

It says nothing about even ranks. It says full ranks as in the front row and the back row must be equal. a 3x1 and 1x3 works because the front and back row are the same value. 4x2+1 doesn't work because 4 in the front and 1 in the back are not equal.

Of course those units will just roll full blanks whilst being flanked with no reroll.

0 Damage. I call it the Murphy play.

13 hours ago, Xquer said:

If it's not single target:

Leonx with meagan and Moi while flanking can get you:

White: ss

Red: hit surge

3xblue: surge surge

So using meagans ability, 9 surges multiplied by the number of units nearby? I think the cheapest unit is a naked scion, you can fit 14 of them in a list so....

117 (9x13 I don't thing the initial target counts?) Plus the 1 hit X2 threat gives a total of

119!

Ummm... that's not how Meagan works.

each surge does one damage to the defender as well as any other enemy in unstable rune range of the defender.

2 hours ago, Jukey said:

Ummm... that's not how Meagan works.

each surge does one damage to the defender as well as any other enemy in unstable rune range of the defender.

He began his scenario by clarifying that he is counting total damage possible from a single attack, but NOT necessarily against a single unit. Maegan's single attack could generate 9 surges. If the opposing army is composed of only single-tray Aymheling Scions, there would 14 in that list. If all 14 got into range of Maegan's ability, she could deal 9 damage to each one of them. Thus, she could theoretically generate an insane amount of damage in a single attack, but it isn't all going on a single unit.

But, since the defender is at range-1 of itself, then it would be 14x9=126. But don't forget the surge on her command tool, bringing it up to 14x10=140. Add in the hit and you get another damage (but just one because she doesn't have brutal). In this situation, I'm going to assume that in order to hit every Aymhelin Scion, you need all 4 unstable runes showing, so the maximum natural runes you could get is 2, which would add Lethal 2 to her attack. So 140+3 gives us a grand total of 143!

But I think that number should be kept separate from damage to a single target, which I'm assuming is what the intent of the original post was. Maegan's 143 is not very likely, considering the list the opponent must be running.

Oh I get it now, thought he was saying the scions were in meagans army, which confused me.