2 points
your action bar gains the reload action.
When you discard a secondary weapon upgrade, you may perform a free reload action.
tempted to make it one point, maybe zero. Would also help b-wings like Nera. Real fear is what does it do for Corran?
Does Corran often take secondaries? As for keeping him out, just say that a minimum requirement is 3 hull.
Corran wants Adv.Sen. or FCS to be most effective (depending on your preferred build). Reloading Secondaries diminishes the power of his ability. I personally always run him FCS to make the most of his double tap.
Reload is a rubbish action, and it won't do anything to help the Punishers. If they got to use their weaponry they'd be contributing value already - you don't need to reload what you never got to use to begin with!
Punishers struggle to fire dry before dying already. Making them able to fire more times doesn't help. And as often happens this ignores the bombing side of them entirely.
3 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:Reload is a rubbish action, and it won't do anything to help the Punishers. If they got to use their weaponry they'd be contributing value already - you don't need to reload what you never got to use to begin with!
Please don't tell me that you cannot ever get at least 1 missile or torpedo off with a ship that has 9 hitpoints, and potentially 1+1 defense dice at any range.
4 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:2 points
your action bar gains the reload action.
When you discard a secondary weapon upgrade, you may perform a free reload action.
tempted to make it one point, maybe zero. Would also help b-wings like Nera. Real fear is what does it do for Corran?
It would definitely help, although I think it would be a more tempting choice over Extra Munitions if it would cost only 1 pt.
In my opinion, what the Punisher needs the most, is a point reduction, coupled with a defensive upgrade. LWF sounds good, but it takes the modification space away from Long Range Scanners or Guidance Chimps.
Or a Punisher-only upgrade that allows to regenerate shields.
Please don't tell me you took a Punisher loaded with only one Missile.
I flew against a Punisher (Deathrain) with Unguided Missiles and Bomblet Generator on the tournament last weekend. It is simply not worth its points. If you load it with ordinance, I focus-fire it (with 1 agility and a crappy dial, it stands little chance) before it gets out all of it. The rest of your squad will be sub-par because of the points invested in the Punisher. If you don't, like the build above, I ignore you and finish you off last.
Punisher needs a title that grants a free Fore Reinforce token. But Trajectory Simulator is going to be pretty nice, I think - it at least gives you a playable Punisher even if it's not a great one.
24 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:Punisher needs a title that grands a free Fore Reinforce token.
Or even the choice between Fore or Aft... along the same lines as the X7, but after any manoeuvre that didn't overlap.
(and perhaps even an additional effect - "instead of performing an attack, you may spend a reinforce token to regain a shield" - Imperial Regen!... just wouldn't be enough room for all the combined text)
Just now, ABXY said:Or even the choice between Fore or Aft... along the same lines as the X7, but after any manoeuvre that didn't overlap.
(and perhaps even an additional effect - "instead of performing an attack, you may spend a reinforce token to regain a shield" - Imperial Regen!... just wouldn't be enough room for all the combined text)
trouble with that is the Punisher only has the primary firing arc printed on the base, so the Aft would cover like 280 degrees.
When do you need protection more than when you're running away!
But you have a point - a Bomblet Punisher with a reinforced butt could be annoying to chase.
but would do an average of one damage per round.
Oh how dreadful.
Minefield mapper looks pretty fun for a punisher in epic play. I will try it one of these days.
Tie punisher only
title
stealth bomber: your action bar gains the cloak action. Place all bomb/torpedo/missile upgrades facedown (hidden not discarded) until you use said upgrade
10 hours ago, Stay On The Leader said:Reload is a rubbish action, and it won't do anything to help the Punishers. If they got to use their weaponry they'd be contributing value already - you don't need to reload what you never got to use to begin with!
Until we actually get ships with the bloody action on the bloody table you can take your mathwing and shove it up your exhaust port on what is and isn't Rubbish.
See tie S/F for reference. Supposed to be DOA, now it's almost a staple in any competitive imperial list.
Edited by FlyingAnchorsJust now, FlyingAnchors said:Until we actually get ships with the bloody action on the bloody table you can take your mathwing and shove it up your exhaust port on what is and isn't rubbish.
Rubbish.
7 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:Until we actually get ships with the bloody action on the bloody table you can take your mathwing and shove it up your exhaust port on what is and isn't Rubbish.
See tie S/F for reference. Supposed to be DOA, now it's almost a staple in any competitive imperial list.
Except the /SF was DOA then future releases made it viable.
9 hours ago, Stay On The Leader said:trouble with that is the Punisher only has the primary firing arc printed on the base, so the Aft would cover like 280 degrees.
Not a problem with the C-Roc either, according to FFG. /sarcasm
Mod card: Presence. 0 Points
When the Punisher flexes it's awesome physique all enemy ships on the play area suffer 1 stress token and lose 1 attack point. All friendly ships receive a focus token. Cue theme song from Karate Kid... "You're the best - around!..."
45 minutes ago, Managarmr said:Not a problem with the C-Roc either, according to FFG. /sarcasm
Although with how the arc is on the c-roc, it's such a small amount it is giving up over the gozanti that it really is not a huge issue. That's one time they were mostly right, even if it was by coincidence and laziness
Maybe. Double shot - 3 points. Fire two secondary at a single target.
1 hour ago, Fuzzywookie said:Maybe. Double shot - 3 points. Fire two secondary at a single target.
Well it makes redline happy anyway.
1.) Nothing in the system slot helps the punisher more than any other ship
2.) No fix for the punisher should be in the system slot because that's ALL it has going for it
Ie minefield mapper and trajectory simulator
3.) Gunboat still does reload better
The poor thing just desperately needs a TIE/IT title
Edited by ficklegreendiceTIE Punisher title should obviously make Missile/torp/Bomb upgrades cheaper. Duh.