Can FFG go the Most Wanted route for new pilots?

By Archangelspiv, in X-Wing

8 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

I was illustrating the point that the OP (and I) was trying to make with an example of what such an expansion pack might look like. The fact that I picked "Heroes of Scarif" to illustrate it is completely besides the point.

Herowannabe is on point to where my head is at with this idea. A lot of people have already painted their ships to look the way they want, or if they are like me, really dont care as I suck at painting and I am glad I dont have to. What I would love, is for there to be a way to add Pilots to the game without having to buy more of the same ships. For example, there is no way in **** I am buying a third Falcon if they release one for the Last Jedi. Would I like updated or new pilots for it? Absolutely, but I will never get 3 YT 1300's into a list so why pay it for a third?

I am fully aware of how FFG business model for X Wing works, but at some point people like myself will stop being a part of it if I don't see value for my money with the same ships being repainted for new Expacs.

Edited by Archangelspiv

Commenting purely because is an excuse to write Heroes of Scarif.

I am actually a bit shocked, and slightly miffed they haven't done it already. All forgiven if it comes with some really nice upgrades/pilots to put T-65 X-Wings back into play properly.

Could even bundle it with Striker variants, did I hear something about a Striker Bomber? Was that from the technical manual?

They CAN do anything they want.

WHat they WILL do is anyone's guess, but I'm really, really hoping they find a way to get K2-SO into the game soon.

But then, Obi-Wan isn't in it yet...

2 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

They CAN do anything they want.

WHat they WILL do is anyone's guess, but I'm really, really hoping they find a way to get K2-SO into the game soon.

But then, Obi-Wan isn't in it yet...

Kenobi? Forget him, what about Jar Jar!

Actually, something like Heroes of Scarif should be in Armada since it was a huge battle and not just a skirmish with snubfighters.

I would like to see a set with a partisan X-wing and TIE Reaper, call it Dawn of Hope, 40 bucks, with K2 as a pilot of the U-wing and crew as well, with Saw crew, General Merrick, some other x-wingers, Tiree and Pops in Y-wings WITH EPTs.

Imps could get Krennic crew, enforcer droid generic crew, TIE Fighter and Striker Pilots, titles for TIE fighters.

Then maybe a ‘core 2.0’ with certain fighters’ ship tokens reprinted with bullseye arcs (X-wings in particular) packaged with YT-1300 and Firespray, with new art for all existing pilots in rebs, Imps and Scum for those ships, and new Scum versions of YT-1300. This set would be intended for purchase after one of the original core sets. And finally a new Slave One title that does something awesome. 50 bucks?

On 10/15/2017 at 0:32 PM, Marinealver said:

There has been quite a few expansions from more recent waves that has used pilots that were already in other factions and in other ships. Mostly rebel to scum and visa verse. All in different ships though. It sounds like you want more firespray pilot conversions where the pilot keeps the same ship but different faction and different abilities. As of now the only pilots/ships that can do this are the other Bounty hunters in Scum and they can go over to Imperial side with their ships (I would like to see more Imperial/Scum ship cross overs). Still the question is how would you add it in. The Most Wanted was mostly a conversion kit for Players who already had collections to instantly get a Scum squadron. It was there to give the scum a starting point up with the two original factions despite being 5 waves behind. So unless there was going to be another conversion kit which is unlikely unless they want to split the TFA factions from the primary ones. It will be hard to implement this.

no, you competely missed the point. this is about fixing the ships we have from past waves en mass

i want(and i think the OP wants) ship specific cards and components to be sold in a unit of merchandise which does not contain a plastic model of the ship they go with. the way they were with Most Wanted. i understand why most wanted was sold that way, and i think its time to do it again.

for example, a "battle of Hoth" box which has a campaign mission and 3 T47 land speeders, but also comes with pilot cards, titles and cardboard for all 5 of the original trilogy small ships that are really hurting. lets say 4 pilots for the y-wing, then titles and upgrades for the Xwing, Bwing, interceptor, tie bomber, and maybe hawk 290. i dont think anyone wants their old ships to be worthless

Edited by Vontoothskie
9 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

no, you competely missed the point. this is about fixing the ships we have from past waves en mass

i want(and i think the OP wants) ship specific cards and components to be sold in a unit of merchandise which does not contain a plastic model of the ship they go with. the way they were with Most Wanted. i understand why most wanted was sold that way, and i think its time to do it again.

for example, a "battle of Hoth" box which has a campaign mission and 3 T47 land speeders, but also comes with pilot cards, titles and cardboard for all 5 of the original trilogy small ships that are really hurting. lets say 4 pilots for the y-wing, then titles and upgrades for the Xwing, Bwing, interceptor, tie bomber, and maybe hawk 290. i dont think anyone wants their old ships to be worthless

I want old X-Wings and pilots updated or “overhauled” to be equal to T-70s via a title card or similar.

Edited by Pooleman
6 hours ago, Vontoothskie said:

no, you competely missed the point. this is about fixing the ships we have from past waves en mass

i want(and i think the OP wants) ship specific cards and components to be sold in a unit of merchandise which does not contain a plastic model of the ship they go with. the way they were with Most Wanted. i understand why most wanted was sold that way, and i think its time to do it again.

for example, a "battle of Hoth" box which has a campaign mission and 3 T47 land speeders, but also comes with pilot cards, titles and cardboard for all 5 of the original trilogy small ships that are really hurting. lets say 4 pilots for the y-wing, then titles and upgrades for the Xwing, Bwing, interceptor, tie bomber, and maybe hawk 290. i dont think anyone wants their old ships to be worthless

Well most wanted didn't really fix the Y-wing, Z-95 HWK or even the Firespray. If you want a mass fix for older ships it seems more like a 2.0 is required.

I would love them to make a "book" pack with pilots from the new books. Why does Armada AND Destiny get a Cienna card??? Why are we only stuck with Thane? No one likes Thane. Also, you can include Thrawn and Eli Vanto; Cham Sendula; etc.

On 10/16/2017 at 2:33 PM, GrimmyV said:

Actually, something like Heroes of Scarif should be in Armada since it was a huge battle and not just a skirmish with snubfighters.

True, but you could break it down into a series of X-wing scenarios, too.

A scarif campaign box would be awesome. If you really wanted to you could do a 'later seasons of rebels plus rogue one' campaign.

  • Partisan and Blue Squadron X-wing if you absolutely must have some plastic.
  • Rebel Pilot cards: X-wing/Y-wing pilots (Merrick & Co & Hera in X-wings, maybe 'Gold Squadron Veterans' plus Ezra in a Y-wing) and U-wing pilots (K2-SO)
  • Rebel crew cards: K2-SO and Chirrut.
  • Imperial Pilot cards: TIE Striker and TIE fighter - plus something like an 'endless ranks' title to bring in reinforcements for generic kills for the swarm-ey feel. Ciena Ree (interceptor), and Vult Skerris (interceptor & defender)
  • Imperial crew cards: Krennic, Rukh, Thrawn
  • If Scum must get something, you could consider the partisans as scum rather than rebels (depends how Rebels season 4 goes!) and have their X-wings as scum units.

I just want expansions that don't come with ships I already have enough of. Just release the pack with cardboard and cards, no ships.

16 hours ago, Kilrex said:

I just want expansions that don't come with ships I already have enough of. Just release the pack with cardboard and cards, no ships.

I only want new ships if they are repaints to the new quality standard.

A re-release of the original X-Wing and TIE fighter packs (with respective fixes) in the original colors, but to today's standard, I'll pick up 2 of each!

When I originally say the title thread I thought the OP meant the Most Wanted from Netrunner. I could get behind a set of tourney only adjustments to point costs or combination restrictions that attempt to open up the meta to more variety of builds without having to reprint cards or mess with casual play costing.

On 10/16/2017 at 9:33 AM, GrimmyV said:

I would like to see a set with a partisan X-wing and TIE Reaper, call it Dawn of Hope, 40 bucks, with K2 as a pilot of the U-wing and crew as well, with Saw crew, General Merrick, some other x-wingers, Tiree and Pops in Y-wings WITH EPTs.

Imps could get Krennic crew, enforcer droid generic crew, TIE Fighter and Striker Pilots, titles for TIE fighters.

I would buy that, give the Rebel cards to my friends, and practice against the X-Wing. And use the TIE Reaper ALL THE TIME!

But first we need the TIE Reaper in it's own set, along with the Chiss Clawcraft.

On 10/18/2017 at 10:43 AM, Kilrex said:

I just want expansions that don't come with ships I already have enough of. Just release the pack with cardboard and cards, no ships.

This will never happen. That particular dead horse has been flogged so hard and often, it's barely a puddle anymore. They've literally come out and said, very plainly and clearly, they have no plans for card packs. I'd imagine a large part reinforcing that is they have the IP licence for a miniature game, and any card only packs could breach that.

3 minutes ago, NakedDex said:

This will never happen. That particular dead horse has been flogged so hard and often, it's barely a puddle anymore. They've literally come out and said, very plainly and clearly, they have no plans for card packs. I'd imagine a large part reinforcing that is they have the IP licence for a miniature game, and any card only packs could breach that.

:(

At least they aren't making collectible ship paints...

Hero's of Scariff would have been perfect time to do this, but I don't think we are ever going to get it.

a pair of X-Wing models and a Y-Wing. X-wing in Blue/Partisan, and a Y wing in an alternate Gold Sq theme.

Cards for:

Blue Squadron X-Wing Pilots

Scum/Rebel double card X-Wing pilots (Partisan)

Y-Wing Cards

U-Wing pilot cards

upgrades/crew

They could do a "Phoenix Squadron" kit I guess...

Green Sq. X-Wing, Gold Sq. Y-Wing, Blade wing Prototype for models

Green Sq. X-Wing pilots (Hera/Ezra/young Wedge, Partisan Veteran)

Y-Wing pilots (Hera, Ezra, Chopper, Veraline, Yavin Veteran)

U-Wing pilot (K2SO)

A-Wing pilots (Hera, Ezra, Sabine, Wedge, Hobbie, Phenoix pilot)

B-Wing pilots (Hera, prototype pilot)

Crew and droids (Chop), X-Wing "fix", B-Wing "Fix"

I think it would be a fantastic kit if they could bring back the classic 4 Rebellion era ships to once again be relevant. I'd argue the A-Wing doesn't need as much help as the rest, but would be nice to have!

2 hours ago, Wiredin said:

Hero's of Scariff would have been perfect time to do this, but I don't think we are ever going to get it.

a pair of X-Wing models and a Y-Wing. X-wing in Blue/Partisan, and a Y wing in an alternate Gold Sq theme.

Cards for:

Blue Squadron X-Wing Pilots

Scum/Rebel double card X-Wing pilots (Partisan)

Y-Wing Cards

U-Wing pilot cards

upgrades/crew

They could do a "Phoenix Squadron" kit I guess...

Green Sq. X-Wing, Gold Sq. Y-Wing, Blade wing Prototype for models

Green Sq. X-Wing pilots (Hera/Ezra/young Wedge, Partisan Veteran)

Y-Wing pilots (Hera, Ezra, Chopper, Veraline, Yavin Veteran)

U-Wing pilot (K2SO)

A-Wing pilots (Hera, Ezra, Sabine, Wedge, Hobbie, Phenoix pilot)

B-Wing pilots (Hera, prototype pilot)

Crew and droids (Chop), X-Wing "fix", B-Wing "Fix"

I think it would be a fantastic kit if they could bring back the classic 4 Rebellion era ships to once again be relevant. I'd argue the A-Wing doesn't need as much help as the rest, but would be nice to have!

Uh, the main 4 Imp ships would like to get in on that action. Not to mention the Imp Firespray.

21 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Uh, the main 4 Imp ships would like to get in on that action. Not to mention the Imp Firespray.

I don't think we need anymore tie-fighters LOL, but 'Ceptors, Bombers, and maybe the Advanced could use some buffs for sure.

7 hours ago, Wiredin said:

I don't think we need anymore tie-fighters LOL, but 'Ceptors, Bombers, and maybe the Advanced could use some buffs for sure.

As much as I hate to jump on the bombs are terrible for the game bandwagon, whilst they work the way they do, Imperials wont be that competitive. Low health, high Agi means nothing atm, talking purely competitive. But saying that, i would love to see some early wave love, they have learned from past experiences and hopefully can fix some mistakes, as in no EPT's for Rebel Y's, Pilots like Kir Kanos having a good ability but a lack of EPT means there are better choices for your points.

After the last FAQ, sure card only packs seems more fitting. Maybe even have a card rotation, no one is going to miss Squad Leader. As for the models, they will get new pilots and upgrades.