Can FFG go the Most Wanted route for new pilots?

By Archangelspiv, in X-Wing

Hey Everyone,

Just a thought. Most Wanted pretty much allowed a bunch of ships already in play to be used in another faction. Boba Fett is the stand out here, could FFG use the same style of release to bring in either updated pilots, with EPTs, ie Rebel Y Wings or newer pilots for some of the older ships. Maybe the first pack with a ship from each faction in it?

Anyways, just burning the grey matter, just thought I would put it out there.

We have this kind of expansions called Aces and Veterans

2 hours ago, IG88E said:

We have this kind of expansions called Aces and Veterans

No we don't. Aces and Veterans add pilots to existing ships that are in the expansion. You obviously dont understand what I am talking about, and I dont have the inclination to explain the basics.

4 hours ago, Archangelspiv said:

Hey Everyone,

Just a thought. Most Wanted pretty much allowed a bunch of ships already in play to be used in another faction. Boba Fett is the stand out here, could FFG use the same style of release to bring in either updated pilots, with EPTs, ie Rebel Y Wings or newer pilots for some of the older ships. Maybe the first pack with a ship from each faction in it?

Anyways, just burning the grey matter, just thought I would put it out there.

I’d like to see an expansion that puts some or all of the T-65 pilots into T-70s or an expansion that gives us an “Alliance Pverhaul” type title for T-65s that boosts the shields and gives it the Tech slot.

32 minutes ago, Archangelspiv said:

No we don't. Aces and Veterans add pilots to existing ships that are in the expansion. You obviously dont understand what I am talking about, and I dont have the inclination to explain the basics.

Why so rude? If you aren't interested in having a discussion and explaining your ideas, a discussion board is perhaps not the right place for you?

Your post is not as clear as you think it is. You start off describing how it brought other ships to another faction but by the end of it, you are talking about (i think?) how it included cards for ships that were not IN the box.

11 minutes ago, Cryix said:

Your post is not as clear as you think it is.

He's wondering if FFG would ever release another expansion (like Most Wanted) that included new pilot cards for pre-existing ships that aren't actually included in the expansion pack.

Personally, I would love to see something like that. I've been working on getting caught up with Rebels and just the new pilots from that would merit an expansion or two of their own. There are so many new canon pilots to previously released ships that would be awesome to have as options. For example, just off the top of my head you have:

Ciena Ree (TIE interceptor)

Vult Skerris (TIE interceptor)

Hera Syndulla (B-Wing)

K-2SO (U-Wing, also as a Crew Upgrade)

Phoenix Squadron Pilots (A-Wing)

Mart Mattin (YT-2400, also the other members of Iron Squadron)

The other Inquisitors (TIE Adv Prototype)

plus the Partisan and Blue Squadron X-Wings from Rogue One

and so on. I mean, there are still canon Original Trilogy pilots that we haven't seen released yet.

many of those aren't big enough to justify a new expansion pack on their own, but would be cool to add as part of a big expansion box like the OP is proposing. Also, you could have a completely separate expansion for:

Sabine Wren (as a pilot for everything)

Rogue Squadron Title

General Wedge Antillies (Special Rogue Squadron Card)

General Luke Skywalker (Special Rogue Squadron Card)

Lt. Corran Horn (Special Rogue Squadron Card) (X-WING **** IT)

I'd rather see them go the route they used for Corellian Conflict in Armada.

23 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

I'd rather see them go the route they used for Corellian Conflict in Armada.

I would love this so much

1 hour ago, Herowannabe said:

He's wondering if FFG would ever release another expansion (like Most Wanted) that included new pilot cards for pre-existing ships that aren't actually included in the expansion pack.

Personally, I would love to see something like that. I've been working on getting caught up with Rebels and just the new pilots from that would merit an expansion or two of their own.

It would be interesting to get a "theme" pack of cards only that didn't have to worry about models or tokens in guess. Heroes of scarf that had one unique two generic pilots for a few ships, maybe split by faction so no one has to buy anything they don't want.

Maybe model it after LCG cycle packs or something and have a pack for each faction as part of the same theme.

However, I think new paint jobs and new models excite people a lot more.

7 hours ago, IG88E said:

We have this kind of expansions called Aces and Veterans

we do not have this kind of expansion. reread the OP. Most Wanted is the only expansion in hte game which comes with components for ships not sold in the pack

2 hours ago, Cryix said:

so no one has to buy anything they don't want.

That for sure isn't a basis xwing was developped on.

27 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

we do not have this kind of expansion. reread the OP. Most Wanted is the only expansion in hte game which comes with components for ships not sold in the pack

I dunno, Jan and Kyle crew from Rebel Aces go great with the HWK.

3 hours ago, PhantomFO said:

I'd rather see them go the route they used for Corellian Conflict in Armada.

Put me down as another one that would love this idea. Screw buying more repainted minis, give us Battle of Scarif, Battle of Yavin, Battle of Endor, Battle of Jakku, Assault on Starkiller base, Battle of Tansari Point, etc., all in one box with new pilots, updated pilots, pilots in new ships, fixes for everything, etc.

how much would you pay for this? If it was awesome enough I’d throw down $50.

3 hours ago, Cryix said:

However, I think new paint jobs and new models excite people a lot more.

Oh I completely agree, for things like the partisan or Blue Squadron X-Wings (calling it now, a Rogue One X-Wing Aces pack with 2 X-Wings, one with the Partisan paint job, one with Blue Squadron to be announced within the next year. FFG/Asmodee/Disney would be crazy not to), but do we need yet another alt-paint-job B-wing expansion just to have Hera as a pilot? Or Phoenix Squadron A-Wings? Or Mart in a YT-2400? You get the idea. I think a Rebels themed "most wanted" type pack that bundled all of those and more would make a lot more sense for FFG and customers alike.

4 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

Rogue Squadron Title

General Wedge Antillies (Special Rogue Squadron Card)

General Luke Skywalker (Special Rogue Squadron Card)

Lt. Corran Horn (Special Rogue Squadron Card) (X-WING **** IT)

Oh yes, can't forget those, or Tycho in an X-Wing. Seriously, why has a Rogue Squadron pack NOT been released yet?

3 hours ago, PhantomFO said:

I'd rather see them go the route they used for Corellian Conflict in Armada.

I can't argue with that. And seriously, is there anyone who WOULDN'T love to see a Corellian Conflict type pack for X-Wing?

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6 hours ago, Archangelspiv said:

No we don't. Aces and Veterans add pilots to existing ships that are in the expansion. You obviously dont understand what I am talking about, and I dont have the inclination to explain the basics.

I guess you belong to the "we need upgrade card expansion packs" fraction.

Your high-nosed reaction is a joke and embarassment, your Majesty.

19 hours ago, GrimmyV said:

I dunno, Jan and Kyle crew from Rebel Aces go great with the HWK.

Put me down as another one that would love this idea. Screw buying more repainted minis, give us Battle of Scarif, Battle of Yavin, Battle of Endor, Battle of Jakku, Assault on Starkiller base, Battle of Tansari Point, etc., all in one box with new pilots, updated pilots, pilots in new ships, fixes for everything, etc.

how much would you pay for this? If it was awesome enough I’d throw down $50.

dude reading comprehention. there are no ship exclusive components in rebel aces other than for the A-wing and B-wing. referencing rsndom upgrades is not the subject here. the OP is talking about ship specific components like pilot cards, titles, cardboard chits and dials.

Couldnt agree more with the second half of your comment though, Scariff pack etc would be great!

4 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

dude reading comprehention. there are no ship exclusive components in rebel aces other than for the A-wing and B-wing. referencing rsndom upgrades is not the subject here. the OP is talking about ship specific components like pilot cards, titles, cardboard chits and dials

Sorry, it was the best I had. What about the Evade token in the original defender expansion? Nym’s blasphemous Rebel ship tokens/dial and stuff might count, sorta, if you count out of faction stuff.

On 10/14/2017 at 7:19 AM, Archangelspiv said:

No we don't. Aces and Veterans add pilots to existing ships that are in the expansion. You obviously dont understand what I am talking about, and I dont have the inclination to explain the basics.

There has been quite a few expansions from more recent waves that has used pilots that were already in other factions and in other ships. Mostly rebel to scum and visa verse. All in different ships though. It sounds like you want more firespray pilot conversions where the pilot keeps the same ship but different faction and different abilities. As of now the only pilots/ships that can do this are the other Bounty hunters in Scum and they can go over to Imperial side with their ships (I would like to see more Imperial/Scum ship cross overs). Still the question is how would you add it in. The Most Wanted was mostly a conversion kit for Players who already had collections to instantly get a Scum squadron. It was there to give the scum a starting point up with the two original factions despite being 5 waves behind. So unless there was going to be another conversion kit which is unlikely unless they want to split the TFA factions from the primary ones. It will be hard to implement this.

56 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

There has been quite a few expansions from more recent waves that has used pilots that were already in other factions and in other ships. Mostly rebel to scum and visa verse. All in different ships though. It sounds like you want more firespray pilot conversions where the pilot keeps the same ship but different faction and different abilities. As of now the only pilots/ships that can do this are the other Bounty hunters in Scum and they can go over to Imperial side with their ships (I would like to see more Imperial/Scum ship cross overs). Still the question is how would you add it in. The Most Wanted was mostly a conversion kit for Players who already had collections to instantly get a Scum squadron. It was there to give the scum a starting point up with the two original factions despite being 5 waves behind. So unless there was going to be another conversion kit which is unlikely unless they want to split the TFA factions from the primary ones. It will be hard to implement this.

Nope. What he wants is a pack that contains however many ships, but that also includes pilot cards or other ship-specific upgrade cards for ships that aren't in that expansion pack. So something like this (emphasis in bold):

Heroes of Scarif Expansion pack

contains:

•X-Wing with Partisan paint scheme

•X-Wing with blue Squadron paint scheme

•several X-Wing Pilot cards, X-Wing title(s), etc.

K-2SO U-Wing pilot card and crew card

•Chirrut Imwe crew card

• New Y-Wing pilot cards and a new Y-Wing title

• Mon Mothma crew card huge ship only

• Admiral Raddus crew card huge ship only

etc

You get the idea: pilot and upgrade cards that aren't actually usable by the ships in that expansion pack. IIRC, to date Most Wanted is the only expansion pack to have done this.

To go along with this: I'd love, say, a Hero's of Scarif pack that _also_ had an Iron Squadron title for the YT-2400, as well as a bunch of pilots and crew for it. But no plastic for that ship. And maybe a couple new Z-95 pilots or a title or something.

1 hour ago, Herowannabe said:

Nope. What he wants is a pack that contains however many ships, but that also includes pilot cards or other ship-specific upgrade cards for ships that aren't in that expansion pack. So something like this (emphasis in bold):

Heroes of Scarif Expansion pack

contains:

•X-Wing with Partisan paint scheme

•X-Wing with blue Squadron paint scheme

•several X-Wing Pilot cards, X-Wing title(s), etc.

K-2SO U-Wing pilot card and crew card

•Chirrut Imwe crew card

• New Y-Wing pilot cards and a new Y-Wing title

• Mon Mothma crew card huge ship only

• Admiral Raddus crew card huge ship only

etc

You get the idea: pilot and upgrade cards that aren't actually usable by the ships in that expansion pack. IIRC, to date Most Wanted is the only expansion pack to have done this.

That makes no sense what so ever. Scarif should be an Armada Campaign.

1 hour ago, Marinealver said:

That makes no sense what so ever. Scarif should be an Armada Campaign.

I don't think we're having the same conversation

10 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

I don't think we're having the same conversation

kind of like throwing another's expansion idea into an unrelated thread.

4 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

kind of like throwing another's expansion idea into an unrelated thread.

I was illustrating the point that the OP (and I) was trying to make with an example of what such an expansion pack might look like. The fact that I picked "Heroes of Scarif" to illustrate it is completely besides the point.

Could be a good idea but several ships can fall in the Aces Box like X-Wing, A-Wing, U-Wing, Tie fighter.

Of course a box just like "Most Wanted" could bring more pilots quickly

But the thing I want the most is the right pilot on the right ship : Shara Bey with a A-Wing, Norra Wexley with a Y-Wing, ....

On 10/14/2017 at 1:06 PM, Herowannabe said:

I can't argue with that. And seriously, is there anyone who WOULDN'T love to see a Corellian Conflict type pack for X-Wing?

The developers, they seem opposed to making X-Wing an accessible star wars themed game.

12 hours ago, Marinealver said:

That makes no sense what so ever. Scarif should be an Armada Campaign.

It should be an Armada campaign, and an X-Wing campaign, and IA.... and Legion when its released.... Basically, FFG needs to do more with the campaign boxes across the board.