As an Imp, do I need Intesity/TLT?

By Celestial Lizards, in X-Wing

14 hours ago, RoockieBoy said:

Could Valen boost into R1 of a TLT carrier after the first shot? Or does the TLT get both shots before Valen's ability activates?

I have to double check the timing chart again but I believe he can boost or roll in to mess up tlt by either getting to range 1 so no shot on the second tlt or getting to range 3/out of arc for auto thrusters to work on the second shot.

Edit: i was wrong see my next post.

Edited by Icelom
13 hours ago, RoockieBoy said:

Could Valen boost into R1 of a TLT carrier after the first shot? Or does the TLT get both shots before Valen's ability activates?

"If the player controlling Valen Rudor has
initiative and uses Valen Rudor’s ability to
move (such as from a boost or barrel roll
action), if the attacker has the ability to
perform another attack (such as from Gunner),
range is measured and firing arc is checked
again. This can prevent the attacker from
performing the second attack.
When defending against a secondary weapon
that says “perform this attack twice,” the
player controlling Valen Rudor can use his
ability only once, and only after the second
attack.
See "Timing Chart for Performing an Attack"
on page 8." faq page 14

So no not for tlt, only after both attacks.

I'd argue you probably, eventually, want two Aggressors. Each Aggressor needs a TLT to be relevant, so if you trade away TLT you might as well toss out the model entirely.

Intensity is a great card, meanwhile, but you probably only need the one - so if you're getting a second Aggressor, having 2x TLT and 1x Intensity for your trouble is a perfectly viable place to be.

Just the one? Then I'd be extra cautious about trading at all, unless you have rebel ships in your future, where the K-wing would replace your TLT deficiency, and get you shiny Extra Munitions tokens besides. Then you could skip the Punisher and still run the odd ordinance list as well.

I'm planning on getting a Silencer...

And I never use my Aggressor, but when I do, it's with TLT...

And people say Intensity is really good on Vader...

But I never flip it...

On 15/10/2017 at 2:27 AM, tsondaboy said:

Intensity is the card I use on Whisper almost exclusively lately. Its an awesome combo.

If Whisper was PS 8 it would be great, I am finding that PS 7 puts her below a lot of ships atm for shooting priority. 2 green die with a focus or an evade is asking for trouble. I would love there to be another option than the stapled VI for Whisper, but there just isnt IMO.

20 minutes ago, Archangelspiv said:

If Whisper was PS 8 it would be great, I am finding that PS 7 puts her below a lot of ships atm for shooting priority. 2 green die with a focus or an evade is asking for trouble. I would love there to be another option than the stapled VI for Whisper, but there just isnt IMO.

When you fly her with Kylo Ren somewhere in the squad, her PS is not an issue any more. ;)

Edited by tsondaboy
3 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I'm planning on getting a Silencer...

And I never use my Aggressor, but when I do, it's with TLT...

And people say Intensity is really good on Vader...

But I never flip it...

I just tried Vader with Intensity, it really helps him when he needs to switch his target lock. Allows the reposition and still get the TL/Focus on the enemy. Helps make him a little less predictable also.

21 minutes ago, tsondaboy said:

When you fly her with Kylo Ren somewhere in the squad, her PS is not an issue any more. ;)

I didnt even think about Kylo in the list, with the propensity of 2 ship lists... that's a great idea.

6 hours ago, Icelom said:

"If the player controlling Valen Rudor has
initiative and uses Valen Rudor’s ability to
move (such as from a boost or barrel roll
action), if the attacker has the ability to
perform another attack (such as from Gunner),
range is measured and firing arc is checked
again. This can prevent the attacker from
performing the second attack.
When defending against a secondary weapon
that says “perform this attack twice,” the
player controlling Valen Rudor can use his
ability only once, and only after the second
attack.
See "Timing Chart for Performing an Attack"
on page 8." faq page 14

So no not for tlt, only after both attacks.

interesting. i thought that if Valen had initiative he would trigger between tlt, cluster missiles attacks. and if he did not, he would trigger after both attacks. One of the cool things that I love about this game is that I almost always learn something new.

1 hour ago, Archangelspiv said:

I didnt even think about Kylo in the list, with the propensity of 2 ship lists... that's a great idea.

I ve kicked all Nym-Dengar-Miranda 2 ships lists out of the local meta with this build.

Kylo Ren + Daredevil + Reinforced Deflectors + Emperor Palpatine + Pattern Analyzer + Engine Upgrade
"Whisper" + Gunner + Advanced Sensors + Advanced Cloaking Device + Intensity

"ohh, you brought a VI Nym you say?"
"sorry he is PS0 now, say hi to Whisper if you see her"

Edited by tsondaboy
2 hours ago, tsondaboy said:

I ve kicked all Nym-Dengar-Miranda 2 ships lists out of the local meta with this build.

Kylo Ren + Daredevil + Reinforced Deflectors + Emperor Palpatine + Pattern Analyzer + Engine Upgrade
"Whisper" + Gunner + Advanced Sensors + Advanced Cloaking Device + Intensity

"ohh, you brought a VI Nym you say?"
"sorry he is PS0 now, say hi to Whisper if you see her"

I have never flown my Upsilon, just never have, no idea why. I am going to try this list hopefully this Thursday at my FLGS, interesting to see how it goes.

Could you put Kylo on a Bomber shuttle and add say Darth's Advanced? Or that shuttle would go down too quickly?

17 minutes ago, Archangelspiv said:

I have never flown my Upsilon, just never have, no idea why. I am going to try this list hopefully this Thursday at my FLGS, interesting to see how it goes.

Could you put Kylo on a Bomber shuttle and add say Darth's Advanced? Or that shuttle would go down too quickly?

Make sure you DO NOT FORGET that he has daredevil! Your opponent will certainly have forgot about it by the time it counts.

As for the Kylo Bomber, I ve tried this list. It works till Omega Ace goes down, so make sure you plan your approach carefully.

Omega Ace + Swarm Leader + Comm Relay
Gamma Squadron Veteran + TIE Shuttle + Twin Ion Engine + Kylo Ren + Systems Officer
Academy Pilot x4 or Imperial Trainee x2 and Wamba

1 minute ago, tsondaboy said:

Make sure you DO NOT FORGET that he has daredevil! Your opponent will certainly have forgot about it by the time it counts.

I have seen someone use it to pretty much turn the Upsilon 180. Their opponent was not expecting it, people just used to the Lambda maybe. But 4-5 die in the face of someone not expecting it was well worth to see.

If you were able to put it on the Lamda it would be a great asset but they don’t have a PS.