I'm building a backdraft list and I thought, "Hey I'm pretty sure adding doesn't count as modifying so I could 3 die snapshot out of my rear arc! Dope!". Then I realized this could be a problem, can I actually do that because I think that like ordinance, I probably can't shoot it out the front.

Never mind: card says no secondary

No. Snap Shot is a secondary weapon and therefore is restricted to primary arc only.

Also, adding results (e.g. Backdraft's ability of adding a crit result) is most definitely a modification.

Something you'll probably never hear on an episode of Futurama: Zoidberg is correct.

To clarify though, if something says "roll an additional die" that is NOT a modification. However, if it says "add a [insert relevant die face here] to your roll" then that IS a modification.

20 hours ago, sharrrp said:

Something you'll probably never hear on an episode of Futurama: Zoidberg is correct.

I could have sworn it happened in one episode, and everyone was really surprised.

4 hours ago, JJ48 said:

I could have sworn it happened in one episode, and everyone was really surprised.

You may be right, I can't remember for sure and I did say probably not absolutely ;-)

On 10/15/2017 at 0:54 PM, sharrrp said:

Something you'll probably never hear on an episode of Futurama: Zoidberg is correct.

To clarify though, if something says "roll an additional die" that is NOT a modification. However, if it says "add a [insert relevant die face here] to your roll" then that IS a modification.

So on Finn crew card when it says “you may add one blank result to your roll.” Is that a modification of an existing die or is that an addional die ?

1 hour ago, MRCWING said:

So on Finn crew card when it says “you may add one blank result to your roll.” Is that a modification of an existing die or is that an addional die ?

Neither*. But it is "dice modification" which is defined as any of the following:

1. changing an existing result to a different result
2. rerolling an existing die
3. adding a die result (in Finn's case: a blank)

*: Well, it is "an additional die", but it's an additional die that's already showing a result, not an additional die you will roll. Additional dice to roll do get around things that forbid dice modification.

27 minutes ago, digitalbusker said:

Neither*. But it is "dice modification" which is defined as any of the following:

1. changing an existing result to a different result
2. rerolling an existing die
3. adding a die result (in Finn's case: a blank)

*: Well, it is "an additional die", but it's an additional die that's already showing a result, not an additional die you will roll. Additional dice to roll do get around things that forbid dice modification.

So then you DO get a new die just not to roll right? AND it’s a modification.

16 minutes ago, MRCWING said:

So then you DO get a new die just not to roll right? AND it’s a modification.

You roll your initial attack dice; and add an additional blank dice (from Finn) to the results of that roll. If you've now ways to modify dice (i.e. Predator, Rage, TL, etc.) you can re-roll the Finn blank along with any other dice you wish to reroll.

Thanks for the clarification that helps immensely!

On 10/17/2017 at 10:32 AM, MRCWING said:

Thanks for the clarification that helps immensely!

But don't forget, adding that blank result from Finn is a modification. So if you're attacking Omega Leader and he's got you locked, you can't add his blank result.

Basically, if you're adding pre-rolled dice through an effect like Jan Ors (ship), it's not a modification... but if you're adding a dice RESULT (regardless of what that result is), it is a modification.

6 hours ago, emeraldbeacon said:

Basically, if you're adding pre-rolled dice through an effect like Jan Ors (ship), it's not a modification... but if you're adding a dice RESULT (regardless of what that result is), it is a modification.

"Pre-rolled dice"??

1 hour ago, Parravon said:

"Pre-rolled dice"??

Not an official term, but one that makes sense. You have to determine and gather the correct number of dice before rolling any of them.

this seems to come up all the time...

With Snapshot you can:

Crackshot

Juke

Jan Ors

Outmaneuver

Trickshot

M9G8 (another ship has you targeted, or you can M9G8 your target)

Intimidation

Wedge

Ten Numb

Expose

Arvel Crynyd

Major Rhymer

Maarek Stele

Fenn Rau

and probably more I can't think of off the top of my head....there is really only a few good ways to do it tho.

Green Squadron Pilot/Juke/Snapshot

Green Squadron Pilot/Crackshot/Snapshot

Green Squadron Pilot/Juke/Snapshot with Jan Ors and/or M9G8

Major Rhymer/Snapshot/Tactician

1 hour ago, jmswood said:

Not an official term, but one that makes sense. You have to determine and gather the correct number of dice before rolling any of them.

That term makes it sound like you've rolled them already. My preference is "dice pool" for whatever you gather before rolling, and "dice results" for what you've rolled.

Dice before rolling and die results are my preferred terms.

Jan and Miranda change the number of dice before rolling, Finn and Norra add results.

Handily, this is the distinction the game uses.

Adding a die is not a modification. Adding a result, is.

13 hours ago, Parravon said:

That term makes it sound like you've rolled them already.

Got me with the past tense. Fair point.