@GhostofNobodyInParticular why can you vote at night..?

also if I could steal a vote I would've had one the day before, where I also could've hammered.. and I wouldn't have waiting so long to draw suspicion before doing it..

my actual role is a watcher, its basically a cop but when I target someone it reveals what they did at night

on night 1 I watched Cnija, it revealed he protected someone (we now know that to be him)

last night I watched the toad after your broadcast (still wanna know about that, guessing a town night chat?), and it came back "bird killed"

basically in Pod style I send a bird to 'watch' the player at night, in my PM he told me a dead bird is a bad omen for town, upon some wikiing watcher are usally included in games with Ninjas, scum who're undetectable at night

Broadcast is basically just a way for me to talk two times a night. Almost utterly useless I figured 'what the heck? Let's see if I can get my thoughts out.' You never know what can happen at night.

I cannot vote at night, where did you get that idea?

Why not? If the anonymous followed immediately after the actual, it would hardly be anonymous, no?

So you sent a bird to watch Toad, and your spy was killed?

vote at night, typo my bad, was a thinking of the next sentence as i wrote

and yes my action sends a watcher crow at night to my target, it will spy on their actions, and return to me with the result, or not in the toads case..

the ninja role allows scum to do things such as stealing, killing, or in cult cases recruiting undetected from investigate roles

in the case of my role, the crow is unique to Pod and if it comes across scum or self-aligned it stops being in play and dies basically, and my PM last night says I lost my watching ability

3 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

the ninja role allows scum to do things such as stealing, killing, or in cult cases recruiting undetected from investigate roles

You are therefore accusing Toad of being a Ninja?

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

in the case of my role, the crow is unique to Pod and if it comes across scum or self-aligned it stops being in play and dies basically, and my PM last night says I lost my watching ability

So you are a watcher who can only ID 1 scum?

Also: Did anybody lose a vote?

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

You are therefore accusing Toad of being a Ninja?

or self-aligned which could go either way, i'd like to hear his response

Just now, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

So you are a watcher who can only ID 1 scum?

yes, or multiple town.. can find a suspect or narrow down

I had my vote stolen last night. I have no vote to give.

Of those of us remaining, I trust Gnips by far the most. Even if I had a vote, I wouldn't use it on him, and I implore the rest of town not to either.

I look forward to hearing from Norell and toad.

Ebon, is watcher the actual title of your role? Because what you described isnt a watcher. But then the crow isn't normal either and Pod likes to play around.

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I had my vote stolen last night. I have no vote to give.

Of those of us remaining, I trust Gnips by far the most. Even if I had a vote, I wouldn't use it on him, and I implore the rest of town not to either.

I look forward to hearing from Norell and toad.

Ebon, is watcher the actual title of your role? Because what you described isnt a watcher. But then the crow isn't normal either and Pod likes to play around.

I'm a town bird handler, the PM said my role was similar to a watcher/tracker type role, and I can launch a crow at night to watch my target, and it tracks what they did at night.

paraphrasing he said no bird return, is bad omens for me

the title is unique to Pods meta

12 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I had my vote stolen last night. I have no vote to give.

Of those of us remaining, I trust Gnips by far the most. Even if I had a vote, I wouldn't use it on him, and I implore the rest of town not to either.

I look forward to hearing from Norell and toad.

Ebon, is watcher the actual title of your role? Because what you described isnt a watcher. But then the crow isn't normal either and Pod likes to play around.

this could also mean that toad is the vote theif JJ muted yesterday?

I’m not a vote theif or a Ninja... I’m a self aligned tracker... I win if I survive to the end or longer than the town watcher( who I now know is Ebon)

N1 I tracked Gnips and got no result

B2 I tracked Mad and also got no result

what gets me is no kill on N1... then on D2 Ninja triggers ( he says his trigger failed) and his target is found dead N2

Edit N2 I tracked Mad... not B2

Back to my thoughts on Ninja... either he’s lying or he got lucky and protected himself(and got targeted) and the scum are trying to make him look guilty by offing JJ

2 minutes ago, TheToad said:

I’m not a vote theif or a Ninja... I’m a self aligned tracker... I win if I survive to the end or longer than the town watcher( who I now know is Ebon)

N1 I tracked Gnips and got no result

B2 I tracked Mad and also got no result

what gets me is no kill on N1... then on D2 Ninja triggers ( he says his trigger failed) and his target is found dead N2

glad i waited to hear your response,

my crow dies if the target is self-aligned or scum, so that fits.. but

you've tried to buddy up with me in the first post too well though i feel with the claim is too right... even the win condition seems like buying my favour by confirming a town watcher... but my official role is town bird handler as previously claimed, the watcher was only used by Pod in my PM as a way to communicate the type of role it was similar too..

5 minutes ago, TheToad said:

Back to my thoughts on Ninja... either he’s lying or he got lucky and protected himself(and got targeted) and the scum are trying to make him look guilty by offing JJ

this is a classic scum tactic of misdirection as well, you've played off the heat in the first post and now try and move conversation off of you.. gunna trust my instinct here, along with losing my crow who i was growing fond of, I'm going to vote the toad

##vote Toad

I just realized Ninja got lynched yesterday... talk about brain fart... that whole **** show happened while I was at work

All I know is there is a town watcher, and my secondary win condition is to live longer than him... maybe that’s not you Ebon... I just doubt there’s two watchers and a self aligned tracker... sorry about your crow...

does that interaction between our roles make sense? He watched me... and I tracked Mad... we both got no result... shouldn’t Ebon of seen me tracking Mad? And why would a watcher get no result based on alignment... Pods custom roles are hella wonky

2 minutes ago, TheToad said:

All I know is there is a town watcher, and my secondary win condition is to live longer than him... maybe that’s not you Ebon... I just doubt there’s two watchers and a self aligned tracker... sorry about your crow...

does that interaction between our roles make sense? He watched me... and I tracked Mad... we both got no result... shouldn’t Ebon of seen me tracking Mad? And why would a watcher get no result based on alignment... Pods custom roles are hella wonky

when someone is self-aligned/scum the crows only information is in its death, the death being the info i get that that player isn't town

Okay so your not a watcher...your an alignment cop... my bad you mis-claimed your own **** role and I was trying to confirm your story

1 minute ago, TheToad said:

Okay so your not a watcher...your an alignment cop... my bad you mis-claimed your own **** role and I was trying to confirm your story

again i didn't misclaim my PM says clearly i'm a town bird handler.. and the confirming of my story is one of the things that i don't like it's too convenient of a get out clause..

you're just seeming more and more scum in my book...

So what I get from this is that:

Ebon claims to be a watcher-ish role - reports something fishy with Toad

Toad claims to be a tracker whose win con depends on the Watcher, and reports nothing

Mad avoided claiming

@Norell isn't around yet

We know we have a vote thief still, because Mad can't vote. Toad seems eager to work out the mystery of the first night, and covers it by says the scum would likely be eager to work it out. This could in fact imply that he himself is scum trying to work it out. He has been the only one (aside from Ninja) to come up with theories trying to explain it.

It is entirely possible that Mad is lying about not having a vote, and may in fact be the thief. I think Norell is cleared by the fact that we clearly saw 2 stolen votes, and only 2 were ever reported. Had Norell said something and somebody else said something, one of them may have been lying. As it is, I am inclined to trust Norell for now.

That leaves 2, with a minimum of 1 scum. I have to assume that that scum is also the vote thief. Toad just posted something - if Ebon is an alignment cop, Toad is a tracker, and we must have a watcher based on Toad's win con, then Norell must be said watcher. That leaves vote thief to Mad. If Norell is not a watcher, then either Toad is lying, and is the second scum, or Pod meant 'watcher-thingy that Ebon is' and just wrote watcher. If the latter, then we face more choices and paths that I shall not get into now.

I know that of the 4 people above, at least 1 is a scum, unless the game is entirely self-aligned killers and town. Based on the current analysis, it seems that Toad and Mad are the likely scum. Of course, Ebon could be lying, in which case he likely the vote thief, and Norell or Mad could be the watcher and Toad is telling the truth.

@Madaghmire - do you have a power role? Can you support either story in any way?

@Norell - the above applies to you as well.

I say we avoid voting (as only 1 town vote allows the scum to turbo) until we have all the input from everybody.

There is likely something I missed, but I am going to bed now, and thus am in a rush, so I'll look back over it tomorrow.