(Mafia)-TrainingDay5/7

By PodRacer, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

amazing, as i just said i couldn't say i knew his claim was true without also claiming my own role... which i wasn't ready to do

what don't you understand, and as i explained i voted tactically, read what i posted!

you inability to understand a lot this game just whiffs of scum, and you don't seem to be taking on board what I'm saying

if Cninja had triggered on JJ we would be an extra player down right now and you know what that means? scum would be winning, so by killing Cninja and stopping another trigger and thanking the lucky stars for his misunderstanding of his own role stopping the first one, my vote has helped town to get where we are...

who didn't vote you, gnips, and mad... yet gnips was active

your own post was about excrement hitting the fan.. which adds nothing to the game and then you were silent the rest of the day... along with mad

my reasoning you were waiting for me or Gnips to vote on Cninja before using your stolen vote... so you and mad could remain off radar

if i claim as the only person in town who can detect you at night, what do you think happens to me that night.. i take JJs place

instead i get myself another night to pick who to go for, after gnips post i was sure on you and mad and chose you, if i had to vote Cninja again i would...

still seems like the best call i could've made in that moment imo

21 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

if Cninja had triggered on JJ we would be an extra player down right now and you know what that means? scum would be winning, so by killing Cninja and stopping another trigger and thanking the lucky stars for his misunderstanding of his own role stopping the first one, my vote has helped town to get where we are...

You’re right... your vote helped town get where it is... it helped us waste a vote on a non scum player who you KNEW was a Doc... thanks for the “help”

and if that same doc was successful on JJ or triggered another town what would you be saying then, when scum missed that night kill town was 1 up, at the end of the day here town is with a scope of winning... taking Cninja was the risk that got us here

my vote won't be leaving you now, im 100% you're scum and and so is mad..

i'm going to make a tea, roll a doob and come back in an hour or so and touch base see if any of the others rear their heads...

@GhostofNobodyInParticular , @Norell looking at you two, need you guys to get online

also next morning when there was only 1 night kill the remaining town will know mads was lying and is actually scum, but it will be too late

8 hours ago, TheToad said:

It's 'EbonHawk' - you tagged the wrong player.

7 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

and if that same doc was successful on JJ or triggered another town what would you be saying then, when scum missed that night kill town was 1 up, at the end of the day here town is with a scope of winning... taking Cninja was the risk that got us here

And right before I went to bed that night all my efforts were to prevent your very action. Do you not realize that as CNinja was telling the truth, it meant that all he had to do was promise to not use his poison ability, and we would have had a functioning and ordinary Doc? You robbed us of our source of protection. Even if you didn't trust him, his use of Poison ensured his death, which meant that he failed his win con. No way he was scum since you 'watched' him . The only way that could have gone was to get a doc who operated ( :) ) like a normal town aligned doc. It sould have been obvious to all town that voting CNinja was a mistake. I think I had JJ close to turning, and had that second vote thief not shown up, I feel CNinja could have been saved, which is why I am sure said vote thief is scum.

Of all the claims, here are my issues:

@Madaghmire - you are a one-shot. That cannot be confirmed, alas, and thus is dangerous.

@TheToad - you need a watcher role to appear, else your claim is falsified, as you seem to doubt Ebon being the qualification

@EbonHawk - I don't get how you tracked CNinja who was self-aligned. Sure, you provided an explanation, but it doesn't make sense.

I must go now, but I shall return in a couple of hours to see what happens. I do not understand why JJ had a ballot paper in his hand. If he stole a vote, then where is the other stolen vote? Or perhaps the other person didn't use it?

@Norell - you've been silent for a day. Please speak up.

1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

It's 'EbonHawk' - you tagged the wrong player.

And right before I went to bed that night all my efforts were to prevent your very action. Do you not realize that as CNinja was telling the truth, it meant that all he had to do was promise to not use his poison ability, and we would have had a functioning and ordinary Doc? You robbed us of our source of protection. Even if you didn't trust him, his use of Poison ensured his death, which meant that he failed his win con. No way he was scum since you 'watched' him . The only way that could have gone was to get a doc who operated ( :) ) like a normal town aligned doc. It sould have been obvious to all town that voting CNinja was a mistake. I think I had JJ close to turning, and had that second vote thief not shown up, I feel CNinja could have been saved, which is why I am sure said vote thief is scum.

Of all the claims, here are my issues:

@Madaghmire - you are a one-shot. That cannot be confirmed, alas, and thus is dangerous.

@TheToad - you need a watcher role to appear, else your claim is falsified, as you seem to doubt Ebon being the qualification

@EbonHawk - I don't get how you tracked CNinja who was self-aligned. Sure, you provided an explanation, but it doesn't make sense.

I must go now, but I shall return in a couple of hours to see what happens. I do not understand why JJ had a ballot paper in his hand. If he stole a vote, then where is the other stolen vote? Or perhaps the other person didn't use it?

@Norell - you've been silent for a day. Please speak up.

yeah ebon hawk is also my account, but the old one i forgot the password too haha,

by my maths we also have to lynch town today, 2 scum vs 3 town with mad 'without' a vote puts us at 2-2 both ways 1 vote short on hammer, I highly doubt scum are going to vote themselves, I reckon toad and mad are waiting for someone other than the the toad to vote, and then put their plan into action...

this game is ******

48 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

by my maths we also have to lynch town today,

. . .

have to *not* lynch, i was trying to highlight the danger to town today, it's basically lynch a scum or no vote and take the night kill, if we lose a town today or take a no kill and go to night we lose, only win is from lynching scum.. my bad for the typo, the point still stands we are fu**ed

Indeed. And given the numbers there is a 50% chance that any if you 4 are scum.

I am waiting for Norell's input before I can make any more progress towards where to place my vote.

My vote was stolen again, but Pod said that with the thief dead I canget it back. So

##reclaim

I'm getting up to date now.

but JJ was clinging to a vote in the post... makes no sense

i don't really care though because it gives town the chance to win this

that i can get on board with

i'm also of the opinion mad actually does have his vote and saying he doesn't was a ruse for another stealth turbo'ing, with Norell claiming his vote back we need to be careful of mad.. which would also explain JJ holding a ballot paper and why norell was able to reclaim it back

as i've said earlier scum is mad and toad imo, i reckon toad is more chance of a vote thief and i'd call last night that the scum vote thief targeted norell, but JJ got in first, because of this they know they don't have the vote, because if scum had a stolen vote we wouldn't even be talking right now they would have turbo'd us at the start of the day with the 3 votes they would've had... and we all know it..

the fact we're talking makes me think scum failed, just like their night kill failed night 1 (we still don't know who was targeted by the way)

and the toad and mad being the quietest yesterday, yet some of the most active today in defending themselves, plus they're far too chummy today despite basically not talking to each other the last two days on here.. with norells confirmation I'm set on toad and mad and don't see a need to change my vote now

we know JJ targeted Gnips vote first night, and we also know norell lost a vote night 1

it makes sense to me, as scums night kill failed that night, that they would target norell again next night as he was a safe bet, but that JJ got in there first and usurped the plan thus we see the toad and mad now, with mad claiming as they know a second person didn't lose a vote

Ebon your theory depends upon the assumption that both thieves targeted Norell being true. That to me seems a bit unlikely. Though you bring up a good point about the turbo.

Norell are you a watcher? If not, then Toad's claim is a bit shaky. Unless both Toad and Ebon are telling the truth, and thus Norell and Mad are scum.

Out of all the combos however, the person who comes off the worst is Mad. He can not be confirmed by anybody, and is suspected by most. We have 2 scum in you 4. I think given those odds and the above potential interactions voting Mad may be the safest bet.

I've said my piece. Ebons story doesn't add up. If I had a vote, I'd put it there. But I can't do any more than that.

As for the second scum,

I feel confident its not Gnips, for reasons I've already stated.

Toad correctly marked the fact that I didn't do anything last night. I think that would have been an extremely dangerous guess to make for a fake claim tracker.

Norell's vote was stolen both nights. So he has no voting history. We can infer tho, from circumstance, that JJ stole his vote. So at the very least, we know town JJ decided to steal Norell's vote, and now Norell has it back.

We also know that the hammer vote on cninja was anonymous, and since JJ was town we can assume he was being truthful about having placed his stolen vote on Cninja prior, and as such we can reasonably assume that the final anonymous hammer vote was the unclaimed thief. I think its probably also safe to assume that thief was scum.

So, now, either Norell had a vote stolen by his scum buddy n1 to throw off suspicion, or he's completely innocent and just getting his vote janked around. However, given the rest of the known factors, I'm inclined to believe he's the second scum.

Also, Nips, you have confirmation that I didn't go anywhere. From Toad.

So here’s the situation... I just need to survive longer than the watcher... that’s either Ebbon or Norell... Ebbon has stated his case... it has holes, but those holes can be attributed to a mess up on Pods part

If we have 2 scum and 2 town that puts me in the unique position of being a neutral swing vote

##unvote

i will either hammer Ebbon or Norell... you guys decide

what a convenient way to hammer either the main person accusing you, or the only person in this game bar gnips who seems 100% town..

I’m done with this...

if there are 2 scum and 2 town and the town lynches me( I’m self aligned and not a threat to town) the scum win with their night kill...

you don’t need to explain yourself to me anymore Ebon better start convincing everyone else

1 hour ago, Madaghmire said:

Also, Nips, you have confirmation that I didn't go anywhere. From Toad.

Thank you for reminding me. So you are only partially cleared - you could be the vote thief lying about having lost your vote - and that only if Toad is. Otherwise, you are both scum.

14 minutes ago, TheToad said:

@GhostofNobodyInParticular ... What did you do N1?

:)

Slept peacefully.