1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

my actual role is a watcher, its basically a cop but when I target someone it reveals what they did at night

Then what is this...

I was on the wiki back and forth when i wrote this (as you can see from my vote broadcast thing with Gnips) trying to figure out a way to explain the role with Pods PM instead of saying just my 'town bird handler" title, i wanted to wait for a full reveal and see if any more people would post and I did...

1 hour ago, EbonHawk said:

I'm a town bird handler, the PM said my role was similar to a watcher/tracker type role, and I can launch a crow at night to watch my target, and it tracks what they did at night.

paraphrasing he said no bird return, is bad omens for me

i didn't get gifted the easiest role to interpret i admit

2 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

@GhostofNobodyInParticular why can you vote at night..?

also if I could steal a vote I would've had one the day before, where I also could've hammered.. and I wouldn't have waiting so long to draw suspicion before doing it..

my actual role is a watcher, its basically a cop but when I target someone it reveals what they did at night

on night 1 I watched Cnija, it revealed he protected someone (we now know that to be him)

last night I watched the toad after your broadcast (still wanna know about that, guessing a town night chat?), and it came back "bird killed"

basically in Pod style I send a bird to 'watch' the player at night, in my PM he told me a dead bird is a bad omen for town, upon some wikiing watcher are usally included in games with Ninjas, scum who're undetectable at night

25 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

when someone is self-aligned/scum the crows only information is in its death, the death being the info i get that that player isn't town

This dosnt make any sense... you “watched” Ninja... a self aligned Mad doctor and got the result that he protected someone... but when you “watched” me the bird died... both Ninja and I are self aligned... if you’re being truthful then the bird should have died when you watched Ninja

Just now, TheToad said:

This dosnt make any sense... you “watched” Ninja... a self aligned Mad doctor and got the result that he protected someone... but when you “watched” me the bird died... both Ninja and I are self aligned... if you’re being truthful then the bird should have died when you watched Ninja

this is true and what i asked pod in my PM when i received the result, his reply was because of Cninjas unique role and the fact he was self protecting himself my crow was unaffected, don't ask me i have no **** idea either

Just now, EbonHawk said:

this is true and what i asked pod in my PM when i received the result, his reply was because of Cninjas unique role and the fact he was self protecting himself my crow was unaffected, don't ask me i have no **** idea either

If that’s the case then this game is fuked beyond all reason... the interaction of roles doesn’t add up and there is no way to make any sense of this...

Just now, TheToad said:

If that’s the case then this game is fuked beyond all reason... the interaction of roles doesn’t add up and there is no way to make any sense of this...

one word, Pod

also i just realised with 5 of us left 2 scum vs 3 town and mad without a vote, assuming norell is town which i think we can agree, on that would mean 2 scum who won't vote each other and 2 town vice versa, seems unlynchable... D3 could be hard to hammer

Nips I'm town aligned 1-shot vigilante. I can confirm Toad's result that I didn't go anywhere last night. I've been waiting for the suspect list to dwindle.

I want to hear from Norell before I draw my final conclusion, but I think I've got this one figured out.

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Nips I'm town aligned 1-shot vigilante. I can confirm Toad's result that I didn't go anywhere last night. I've been waiting for the suspect list to dwindle.

I want to hear from Norell before I draw my final conclusion, but I think I've got this one figured out.

I feel this is a bluff... and you're toads scum partner almost so hard i'm tempted to push for a no vote now and call you out to trigger on me in the night...

unless in true pod flavour you're a day vig? i'm willing to test your call, are you?

Im not a day vig.

On 15/10/2017 at 9:36 PM, Madaghmire said:

Like JJ, I had ebon highest on my list until he explained the Training Day thing. He's still up there for me tho, because i have no idea how to evaluate that.

I was on your list before i believe as have others... why haven't you used your role yet? with 2 scum i and 6 town plus a mad doc i don't believe pod as mad as he is, is crazy enough to add a vig who could dwindle town chances significantly, i'm still calling your bluff

Just now, EbonHawk said:

I was on your list before i believe as have others... why haven't you used your role yet? with 2 scum i and 6 town plus a mad doc i don't believe pod as mad as he is, is crazy enough to add a vig who could dwindle town chances significantly, i'm still calling your bluff

Because until this "bird handler" thing, I couldn't be sure. Now, I just need to figure out who your partner is.

My current working theory is that you are the vote thief, and stole norells vote to draw suspicion off of him n1, so he could operate completely under the radar. He hasn't been overly talkative.

Plus, process of elimination. I know its not me. #broadcast is a wierd scum ability, but seems like a nicely meek town ability to give someone so they dont have to be vanilla, so Gnips seems good, as its verified. And Toad knew I didn't go anywhere, which is a dangerous claim to make for scum.

So I'm left with Norell. Still, I want to hear from him, because its possible I'm being misled from another angle.

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

Because until this "bird handler" thing, I couldn't be sure. Now, I just need to figure out who your partner is.

My current working theory is that you are the vote thief, and stole norells vote to draw suspicion off of him n1, so he could operate completely under the radar. He hasn't been overly talkative.

Plus, process of elimination. I know its not me. #broadcast is a wierd scum ability, but seems like a nicely meek town ability to give someone so they dont have to be vanilla, so Gnips seems good, as its verified. And Toad knew I didn't go anywhere, which is a dangerous claim to make for scum.

So I'm left with Norell. Still, I want to hear from him, because its possible I'm being misled from another angle.

if i stole votes why haven't I used any of them yet...? plus norell is the only player here imo who's actually vanilla town and has had the double misfortune of having his vote stolen, also in pods post JJ is seen to be clinging onto a ballot paper... if your vote was stolen could it of been JJ or did JJ steal another player's vote..?

if i was to hedge my bets i'd say you're the vote thief and your action failed last night, knowing this you can claim to have no vote yourself, then when a player reaches L-1 come in and stealth turbo, thinking back exactly what happened to JJ was it not?

##unvote

if mads the vote thief i reckon he's a much more valuable target

Edit

Just now, EbonHawk said:

if i stole votes why haven't I used any of them yet...? plus norell is the only player here imo who's actually vanilla town and has had the double misfortune of having his vote stolen, also in pods post JJ is seen to be clinging onto a ballot paper... if your vote was stolen could it of been JJ or did JJ steal another player's vote..?

if i was to hedge my bets i'd say you're the vote thief and your action failed last night, knowing this you can claim to have no vote yourself, then when a player reaches L-1 come in and stealth turbo, thinking back exactly what happened to CNINJA was it not?

##unvote

if mads the vote thief i reckon he's a much more valuable target

JJ posted his and the anon vote, i voted, then another anon turbo'd...

i think that's you, as the only two people who didn't vote Cninja excluding gnips who i've read as down from D2 were you and the toad...

i'm willing to say that the scum duo is in fact you and the toad

2 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:

if i stole votes why haven't I used any of them yet...? plus norell is the only player here imo who's actually vanilla town and has had the double misfortune of having his vote stolen, also in pods post JJ is seen to be clinging onto a ballot paper... if your vote was stolen could it of been JJ or did JJ steal another player's vote..?

if i was to hedge my bets i'd say you're the vote thief and your action failed last night, knowing this you can claim to have no vote yourself, then when a player reaches L-1 come in and stealth turbo, thinking back exactly what happened to JJ was it not?

##unvote

if mads the vote thief i reckon he's a much more valuable target

I know Mad didn’t steal a vote last night because I tracked him... your story isn’t adding up Ebon...

Just now, TheToad said:

I know Mad didn’t steal a vote last night because I tracked him... your story isn’t adding up Ebon...

my role is in the game because like I said, scum have a ninja ability https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ninja

which is why you would get that result if you're a tracker..

but backing up your scum partner so quick... you're top of my list, mad is 2nd right now

because the ninja role is undetectable by watcher/trackers, pod made the role i got comprising elements of both to 'track' the ninja

i found one

So @ebon hawk ... Mad and I are both scum Ninjas... and Mad is also a vote theif... and you are a watcher/tracker/alignment/role cop? This makes no sense...

either Pod has fuked this thing up with his custom roles... or you’re lying... I have to believe this game isn’t that screwed up

##Vote @ebon hawk

at current maths we need to lynch scum to win, otherwise we roll into a no vote night where scum win...

my earlier theory on mad being vote thief is high on the list, but say toad is the vote thief and stole mads vote?

that could also make sense imo, they've already referenced to watching out for a stolen vote being used to turbo, something scum did this game..

and then they mention scum stealing scum votes in ref to me and norell? as mad is voteless makes sense this is another hint at their scum play and in fact it was the toad who stole the vote off mad.. this makes sense imo as it allows scum to still vote inline with each other and easy turbo the right target who from my earlier vote on toad wasn't it for them, which makes me think toad even more scummy

its back on

##vote Toad

2 minutes ago, TheToad said:

So @ebon hawk ... Mad and I are both scum Ninjas... and Mad is also a vote theif... and you are a watcher/tracker/alignment/role cop? This makes no sense...

either Pod has fuked this thing up with his custom roles... or you’re lying... I have to believe this game isn’t that screwed up

##Vote @ebon hawk

this came up while typing, in reference to it, i'm swayed to saying you're the vote thief and mad is the scum with the ninja role who's been doing his dirty kills at night... and my role isn't that hard, i launch a crow it brings back a result based on what they did in the night, like an overview... and the yours and mads play this game is too similar yet while keeping distance which reads great scum play..

and the game was screwed way before, when pod put the roles into the randomiser

On 10/17/2017 at 1:21 PM, EbonHawk said:

I'm inclined to vote now just to get the truth either way, be it you or JJ, it seems you're taking the hit out of the both of you...

if you're scum, great for town

if you're town, we will know where a scum lays, plus if you're this mad doc you claim I can't say i'll miss someone who could poison town whenever they want

##vote Cninja

And right here... you knew Ninja was a Doc... because you supposedly “watched” him N1 but then you question his Doc claim and then vote to lynch him...

you sir are scum...

I explained my vote he was self-aligned with the ability to kill town... also in a game so small i'm wasn't taking a chance on him being secret scum

and yes I question his claim because I hadn't claimed yet, how could i say i knew he was a doc(a doc i was weary of as well) without revealing...

you know that..

as that same doc tried to trigger on a town(JJ) that same day i feel i'm justified, nothing to suggest he wouldn't have triggered on another town again

that vote was tactical and calculated

On 10/17/2017 at 1:21 PM, EbonHawk said:

if you're town, we will know where a scum lays, plus if you're this mad doc you claim I can't say i'll miss someone who could poison town whenever they want

##vote Cninja

...IF YOU’RE THIS MAD DOC YOU CLAIM...

(on phone can’t make it bold)

If you are what you claim to be, and did what you claimed to do at night then YOU KNEW HE WAS A DOC

Case effing closed... I need a smoke...