I've never been sure. Sometimes it seems like it is, and sometimes it seems like it isnt.

Pretty sure that yes, all the normal obstacle rules apply to it.

Yes it is still an obstacle. It's labeled one on the components spread in the LTP guide.

It is one of six obstacles from the core set.

Yes. Looks like @Truthiness is cheating again.

2 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

Yes. Looks like @Truthiness is cheating again.

Come again for big fudge?

What's the point of this?

I'm guessing it's because I put a VIP token on the station in my Vassal game with mood today? My understanding is an object is always at distance one of itself, so I plopped the VIP token on top of the station.

I wasnt accusing Truth of anything... well I was but I did that on Vassal and it was my mistake.

This is just a seperate question that occured to me. In hindsight I think it was navigationals hazards that confused me and its very well worded.

6 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

I've never been sure. Sometimes it seems like it is, and sometimes it seems like it isnt.

It is even in the RRG.

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Obstacles
When a ship or squadron overlaps an obstacle after executing a maneuver, it resolves an effect that depends on the type of obstacle it overlapped:
• Asteroid Field: The ship is dealt one faceup damage card. Squadrons are unaffected.
• Debris Field: The ship suffers two damage on any one hull zone. Squadrons are unaffected.
• Station: The ship can discard one of its faceup or facedown damage cards. The squadron can recover one hull point.

And in the index:

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station (see Obstacles) ..............8

8 hours ago, Truthiness said:

I'm guessing it's because I put a VIP token on the station in my Vassal game with mood today? My understanding is an object is always at distance one of itself, so I plopped the VIP token on top of the station.

You can totally do that. Can't you?

Capture the VIP says:

... places 1 objective token at distance 1 of any obstacle ...

So yes, it can be placed on the station.

Yup, totally my mistake, and I wasn't around all day to fix it.

Yeah, for some reason I was brain farting and thinking VIP was beyond distance 1 of the obstacle. Which doesn't even make sense, but there it is.

43 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Yup, totally my mistake, and I wasn't around all day to fix it.

Yeah, for some reason I was brain farting and thinking VIP was beyond distance 1 of the obstacle. Which doesn't even make sense, but there it is.

Which us what I accussed Truthy of in game too so you arent alone.

No, NO. I agree with the statement that Truthi cheats! And it has nothing to do with the fact that he beat me in that game...

Cheating?

You didn't see Turbo Sloane in action.

Yes it is. Anything that can cause obstruction and isn't a ship is an obstacle.

On 2017. 10. 09. at 10:27 AM, Tokra said:

Capture the VIP says:

So yes, it can be placed on the station.

AT distance 1 would mean exactly distance 1 from its borders.l wouldn't it?

WITHIN distance 1 would mean it can be on the obstacle itself.

16 minutes ago, Norell said:

AT distance 1 would mean exactly distance 1 from its borders.l wouldn't it?

WITHIN distance 1 would mean it can be in thw obstacle itself.

At distance means that the token can be anywhere as long as one part is in distance 1 to the obstacle.
Within means that the farthest part of the token still has to be in distance 1 to the obstacle.

See Contested Outpost for example. It says: "Each player sums the command vaule of his ships at distance 1 to the station".
This means, as long as any part of the ship is in distance 1 of the station, it counts. Standing on the station does count as well, it is still at distance 1.

Another example for at distance would be the hyperspace assault. The second player can place the ships at distance 1 of the token. Only a part of the ship has to be in distance 1 of the token, not the whole ship.

And one example for moving tokens at distance is Sensor Net. The other player is moving the tokens at distance 1 of the old token. Means you can move further than within distance 1.

An example for within would be the placing of the obstacles (RRG page 10). "Obstacles must be placed within the setup area,..."
This means that the full obstacle has to be in the setup area. And not a single part of the obstacle is allowed to look over the map.

Hyperspace assault is as well a good example for within. And the end of each turn, the second player can move the tokens within distance 1. This means that the farthest part of the token still has to be in distance 1 of the old position.

Squadrons move as well with the within rule (even if the rules do not use this wording).

As you can see, you can move a token further when you are moving it with at distance compared to within distance .