Just now, Rogue_Group1 said:but it's still only good on low ag high hp ships
Says who? Have YOU tried it?
Silencer Overpowered ?
22 minutes ago, Rogue_Group1 said:but it's still only good on low ag high hp ships
If you have enough fine grained control over your defensive mods (e.g. autothrusters, focus and evade from Comm Relay/Intensity) you should be able to let hits trickle through one at a time, after which, you can PS0 Nym and the rest is fairly traditional arc dodging.
Silencer is cool looking to sell units; no meta defining power was given it.
It doesn't bomb, cannot regen, and is stuck with a 3 dice 80 degree arc.
It'll be a kitchen table staple, nothing more....
1 minute ago, clanofwolves said:It'll be a kitchen table staple, nothing more....
Unlike the GUNBOAT!!!
I have been play testing it with the Interceptor Dial with this build:
Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) — TIE Silencer35
Push the Limit3
Advanced Sensors3
Autothrusters2
First Order Vanguard2
Ship Total: 45
Like @Celestial Lizards said the ability is a contingency, shoot me at your own risk. Also for everyone saying he is overpriced compare him to Soontir. The standard build is 35 points.
In order to get an Interceptor to the same stats as Kylo you would need to build him out like this.
Soontir Fel (Tie Interceptor) 27
Hull Upgrade 3
Shield Upgrade 4
Shield Upgrade 4
Targeting computer 2
Tech Slot Adv Sensors 3
Ship Total: 43
This is without the standard Upgrades
Royal Guard Tie 0
Push the Limit 3
Autothrusters 2
Stealth Device 3
New Ship total: 51
Put him on the board with this build and play test it, trust me it is evil. My point is this, Kyloceptor will not have an Interceptor Dial, it will be more like an FO dial married an Interceptor and had a child. For the points he is on par with Corran and Poe, with an ability that says "Shoot me I dare you", It is extremely fun to fly and may bring back the joy most of us that fly Imperials for precision flying had.
1 minute ago, Celestial Lizards said:
Now we just need to figure out how to add the GUNBOAT savior into the mix
Just now, smccaughan said:Now we just need to figure out how to add the GUNBOAT savior into the mix
Silencer and two GUNBOATS?
2 minutes ago, smccaughan said:Now we just need to figure out how to add the GUNBOAT savior into the mix
Two with XG-1, AdSLAM, Tractor Beams and Concussion Missiles shouldl do the trick.
3 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:Silencer and two GUNBOATS?
Hopefully we can get some good Gunboat builds that clocks in at 25-27 points. I'd say run Kylo with two TLTs, but they have zero ability to trigger crits, and thus have anti-synergy with Kylo.
Edited by HolySorcerer1 minute ago, HolySorcerer said:Hopefully we can get some good Gunboat builds that clocks in at 25-27 points. I'd say run Kylo with two TLTs, but they have zero ability to trigger crits, and thus have anti-synergy with Kylo.
Until they get to Range 1 and fire with primary.
2 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:Hopefully we can get some good Gunboat builds that clocks in at 25-27 points. I'd say run Kylo with two TLTs, but they have zero ability to trigger crits, and thus have anti-synergy with Kylo.
Good point - replace Concussion Missiles with Proton Torpedos. Done.
4 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:Hopefully we can get some good Gunboat builds that clocks in at 25-27 points.
Considering the top pilot is 26 points, we will likely see XG-1-Linked Batteries, Ion Cannon build
5 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:Considering the top pilot is 26 points, we will likely see XG-1-Linked Batteries, Ion Cannon build
I hope linked batteries is good. If FFG drop the ball on this ship...
27 minutes ago, smccaughan said:I have been play testing it with the Interceptor Dial with this build:
Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) — TIE Silencer35
Push the Limit3
Advanced Sensors3
Autothrusters2
First Order Vanguard2
Ship Total: 45
Like @Celestial Lizards said the ability is a contingency, shoot me at your own risk. Also for everyone saying he is overpriced compare him to Soontir. The standard build is 35 points.
In order to get an Interceptor to the same stats as Kylo you would need to build him out like this.
Soontir Fel (Tie Interceptor) 27
Hull Upgrade 3
Shield Upgrade 4
Shield Upgrade 4
Targeting computer 2
Tech Slot Adv Sensors 3
Ship Total: 43
This is without the standard Upgrades
Royal Guard Tie 0
Push the Limit 3
Autothrusters 2
Stealth Device 3
New Ship total: 51
Put him on the board with this build and play test it, trust me it is evil. My point is this, Kyloceptor will not have an Interceptor Dial, it will be more like an FO dial married an Interceptor and had a child. For the points he is on par with Corran and Poe, with an ability that says "Shoot me I dare you", It is extremely fun to fly and may bring back the joy most of us that fly Imperials for precision flying had.
It will be super fun to fly, yes. It just has two problems: 1) this is the bomb, bomb, turret, bomb, turret, bomb, Sabine, bomb, regen, bomb meta, and 2) Kylo only has 3 reds in his locked in 80 degrees. He is unplayable on top tables but amazingly fun on kitchen tables, due to these issues.
I am hoping for FFG to actually fix this bombing mess they have dropped us all into where arced ships have a chance --then Kylo will have a puncher's chance-- but they seem to be dead to this game; they're inability to act is strangling the game.
2 hours ago, Rogue_Group1 said:but it's still only good on low ag high hp ships
...which we see a fair amount of in the current meta... so that's nice to have
@smccaughan Interceptor and FO dials are nearly identical and the FO are the better of the two... what are you thinking the dial will have? (I'm hoping for white segnor's)
Edited by Lobokai1 hour ago, HolySorcerer said:I hope linked batteries is good. If FFG drop the ball on this ship...
3 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:Says who? Have YOU tried it?
yes.
1 hour ago, Lobokai said:...which we see a fair amount of in the current meta... so that's nice to have
@smccaughan Interceptor and FO dials are nearly identical and the FO are the better of the two... what are you thinking the dial will have? (I'm hoping for white segnor's)
Well the FO only has up to a green 3 so I am hoping the Kylo dial has a 4 and yeah I think it will have a 3 Sloop and hopefully a white one at that. I also think it will only have 3 reds at most.
Kylo and a pair of Rho Squadron Linked battery/Mangler gunboats. Long range sensors?
Rhos with Deadeye/proton Torps dont even need either title, though Advance slam for SLAM/Reload combo may be worthwhile.
2 hours ago, Rogue_Group1 said:yes.
As in, have YOU flown Kylo on the Silencer?
6 hours ago, Rogue_Group1 said:If he is evading all of the hits, then how is he going to assign the condition? The ability was only good on the Upsilon because it was a low agility, high health ship.
The thing is that your opponet want not to shoot you. If you evade all the hits you're happy.
That ability is a deterrent and a life-save for you.
And you are a pretty agile small ship, a pain in the *** in late game. You want to take off Soontir Fel fast, Wishper fast, because all of these ships are monsters in late game. Kylo too.
But you don't really wanna ISYTDS in early game...so you have a pretty enigma to solve: focus him (trying too kill him, not easy) in early game and take the condition, or let him have the late game and just outclass you?
15 minutes ago, Cerve said:The thing is that your opponet want not to shoot you. If you evade all the hits you're happy.
That ability is a deterrent and a life-save for you.
And you are a pretty agile small ship, a pain in the *** in late game. You want to take off Soontir Fel fast, Wishper fast, because all of these ships are monsters in late game. Kylo too.
But you don't really wanna ISYTDS in early game...so you have a pretty enigma to solve: focus him (trying too kill him, not easy) in early game and take the condition, or let him have the late game and just outclass you?
I am continually surprised that more people don't seem to understand this.
What @Cerve said. If you evade all damage, brilliant, you're doing well. If you successfully arc dodge your opponent, brilliant, you're doing well. If you do find yourself taking damage, however, you can then slap ISYTDS on them.
Really, the ability potentially makes Kylo king of the endgame arc dodgers. Think about how difficult it can be to successfully catch a PtL Soontir in arc. Now imagine managing to catch him in arc, only for it to not matter because a Blinded Pilot crit was pushed through your shields.
I guess we hope for a Leia passenger card...
"Kylo Ren cannot target this ship"
Mommy says put down the weapons of war.