Pilots?

By 171akup, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Would I be able to use pilots from one expansion on another like the two Millennium Falcons and the Tie Fighters from the Force Awakens and some older ones? Also any other rules about swapping pilots.

On your first question, are you asking if you can, say, take Original Han Solo and Rey in the same squad, or Howlrunner with Omega Leader? Then yes, you can mix eras, that's not an issue. What you still can't do is take both Original Han Solo and Heroes of the Resistance Han Solo in the same list; they both have the unique pip, which functions on card name, so you can still only have one of them in your squad.

I'm not sure what you mean about swapping pilots in your second question though. Can you elaborate?

No, you can't put Han in an X Wing, if that's what you're asking. Pilots and ships are not distinct from one another, each pilot can only fly ships they have cards for, and each ship can only be flown by pilots it has cards for.

7 hours ago, Otacon said:

On your first question, are you asking if you can, say, take Original Han Solo and Rey in the same squad, or Howlrunner with Omega Leader? Then yes, you can mix eras, that's not an issue. What you still can't do is take both Original Han Solo and Heroes of the Resistance Han Solo in the same list; they both have the unique pip, which functions on card name, so you can still only have one of them in your squad.

I'm not sure what you mean about swapping pilots in your second question though. Can you elaborate?

I found the answer to my second question and thx for answering the first but now I just need to find a way to mix x-wing and attack wing.

5 hours ago, 171akup said:

I found the answer to my second question and thx for answering the first but now I just need to find a way to mix x-wing and attack wing.

Can I ask why?

:huh:

6 hours ago, 171akup said:

I found the answer to my second question and thx for answering the first but now I just need to find a way to mix x-wing and attack wing.

Just be aware that there is a method behind FFG's madness on this point. Not separating pilots allows them to print stronger pilot abilities that would be entirely broken if you could put them on any ship you wanted. Darth Vader, for example, could never have been printed in his current form if you could put him wherever you like (PS11, double-action Phantom anyone?).

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8 hours ago, 171akup said:

I found the answer to my second question and thx for answering the first but now I just need to find a way to mix x-wing and attack wing.

Don't. Attack Wing is garbage compared with X-Wing. It's an attempt at a quick cash-after observing how successful X-Wing was; with lousier rules and crappier miniatures.

Much, much crappier miniatures. And all different scales as well.

A single unified scale is realy not something X-Wing can brag about any more, even in non-epic play, but it's still better than STAW's.

15 minutes ago, Parravon said:

Much, much crappier miniatures. And all different scales as well.

Looking at the packs down at my FLGS, I cannot believe the [lack of] quality in the miniatures; particularly given what they cost to buy.

16 hours ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

Looking at the packs down at my FLGS, I cannot believe the [lack of] quality in the miniatures; particularly given what they cost to buy.

I'm a big Trek fan, and was looking at AW long before X-wing, but it was the quality (or lack thereof) of minis and the fact they were all around the same size but nowhere near the same scale that made me steer away from it. Some of the later minis I've seen, they've molded in the base color then just painted parts of the mini, not the whole thing. Really doesn't even compare to the quality of X-wing minis.

Rock on, FFG!!

21 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

A single unified scale is realy not something X-Wing can brag about any more, even in non-epic play, but it's still better than STAW's.

Realy? What non epic ships are not in the 1/270 scale? Granted, I've not been as involved in X-Wing the last few years as the first few years of it's existence. Back then atleast, FFG claimed that all ships (not including epic) where in the 1/270 scale and they got the measurements directly from Lucasfilm. Has that changed?

9 minutes ago, Smuggler said:

Realy? What non epic ships are not in the 1/270 scale? Granted, I've not been as involved in X-Wing the last few years as the first few years of it's existence. Back then atleast, FFG claimed that all ships (not including epic) where in the 1/270 scale and they got the measurements directly from Lucasfilm. Has that changed?

At the very least the YV666 and a wing, almost certainly the Resistance Bomber.

1 hour ago, thespaceinvader said:

At the very least the YV666 and a wing, almost certainly the Resistance Bomber.

Still not as bad as STAW's complete and utter lack of any kind of scale. But then I really didn't think the dogfighting style of play suited Star Trek's larger ships either.

6 minutes ago, Parravon said:

Still not as bad as STAW's complete and utter lack of any kind of scale. But then I really didn't think the dogfighting style of play suited Star Trek's larger ships either.

I don't mind abstracted scales in capital ship games tbh. I don't mind it that much in x-wing even.

Mini quality and game quality are much more important than perfect scale matching, especially in universes where constant scales are often not really A Thing, especially early on in the design processes.

18 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

I don't mind abstracted scales in capital ship games tbh. I don't mind it that much in x-wing even.

Mini quality and game quality are much more important than perfect scale matching, especially in universes where constant scales are often not really A Thing, especially early on in the design processes.

I find it more visually appealing if the scales are the same. But then I've been wargaming for over 30 years and mixing scales just starts to look all kinds of wrong to me.

The scale of X-wing's huge ships doesn't really visually impact the starfighter scale that much, as FFG have got it looking appropriate for it's size. But if they bought out a Star Destroyer around the same size as their corvettes, then it simply wouldn't look right, no matter how well made the model was. The problem I had with STAW was every ship model was about the same size and watching any big battles on TV you knew that Galaxy -class ships were really big and shouldn't have been anything close to the Defiant's size. I suspect it was a case of making a model to fit the packaging, instead of fitting the packaging to the model. There have been more than a few model manufacturers that have done this over the years and it means if you're collecting models, then you don't have much chance of keeping things in any kind of scale.