Or is it PS 9+ with advanced sensors?

Everyone is going bonkers over the idea of a ship with green turns that can use advanced sensors with push the limit. But... can’t Corran do this with R2 astromech? Yes, he loses R2D2, and perhaps that is reason enough to make the discussion null, but I dont ever remember seeing Corran with r2 Astro run successfully, and Corran is no joke. Which makes me think advanced sensors combined with the highest available ps is where the real power lies.

so maybe it’s simply a culmination of things that makes advanced sensors on the verge of broken on some ships such as Nym and possibly Kylo in the Tie Silencer?

Not a lot of people are buying into hype. I need to see the last few upgrades to make the call.

There's a Tech upgrade lingering.

I think with an extra hp and Autothrusters, the Silencer is more like R2D2 Corran in durability than R2 Corran. PS9 and an expected amazing dial do also play a big part in the hype. I think it's a package deal.

But I'm the weirdo who thinks he'll even be good with FCS.

Are there any ships in the game currently besides R2 Astro Corran, with a Hard 2 Green Turn and Advanced Sensors?

Advanced Sensors on a ship with Green Banks and Straights is incredibly strong. Basically think about PTL BB-8 PS9 Poe. Now imagine Poe has more HP, 1 more green dice, native boost & barrel roll, and a green hard 2 turn, a native predator action, 1 time green rerolls, primed thrusters, & access to Palp + a way to PS0 people. Its gonna be pretty dope. Closest similarity I can think of is advanced sensors whisper or corran but whisper doesnt have access to boost or the target lock action. Its the fact that the silencer has access to both boost & barrel roll that blows the door wide open on where an Advanced Sensors that Green Turn can end up. It wont really matter that the silencer doesnt have access to regen either. In my opinion w/e messes with it is going to at least suffer some serious consequences in return.

Do green turns really make advanced sensors bombers?

Fixed it for you, laughing along with the current meta OP.

But seriously, Kyle will be super fun to fly, just not a clear tourney ship selection pre-turret and bomb nerfing FAQ.

Silencer has green 2-turns.

Sorry, let me rephrase that.

Silencer has green 2-turns, suck on that, Rebel Scum!

Welp, I will go ahead and start it up.

AS NEEDS A NERF! IT'S WICKED OP!

One thing we can all agree on is we're holding out breath that it's awesome. I miss arc dodging..

Just the advance sensor results, and leaving off some of the barrel roll->boost options.

Well they didn't give the Silencer evade for a reason. Being able to PtL token stack with no stress every turn would have been a bit much. As it stands you have to finagle his upgrades to get him an evade token.

15 minutes ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

Well they didn't give the Silencer evade for a reason. Being able to PtL token stack with no stress every turn would have been a bit much. As it stands you have to finagle his upgrades to get him an evade token.

If you have need of an evade, you have failed to dodge the arc.

Do not fail to dodge the arc.

/sarcastic sensei

1 hour ago, Scopes said:

Welp, I will go ahead and start it up.

AS NEEDS A NERF! IT'S WICKED OP!

You know it. I know it. Some of them probably know it - Everything they don't like is OP. Even if it's been around, in it's most basic form, since Wave III.

So wait though... a huge vocal group on here has been howling with rage that the Empire is under-powered, and so now that the Empire is getting a ship with Systems and a Green 2-Turn, we're howling with rage?

I don't get most of you people. Honestly. I don't.

2 hours ago, Scopes said:

Welp, I will go ahead and start it up.

AS NEEDS A NERF! IT'S WICKED OP!

>implying Nym didn't already start it

17 minutes ago, E Chu Ta said:

If you have need of an evade, you have failed to dodge the arc.

Do not fail to dodge the arc.

/sarcastic sensei

Except that, y'know, turrets are a thing.

No, people are just being ridiculous about Kylo Ren. He's overcosted not overpowered.

1 hour ago, Stay On The Leader said:

No, people are just being ridiculous about Kylo Ren. He's overcosted not overpowered.

Lol, you want it cheaper? Suuuure..

Kylo's cost is totally well balanced. The problem is the meta, not the cost. Bring down costs just for the meta will just snowball the entire game and crushing it in 2 waves.

10 minutes ago, Cerve said:

Lol, you want it cheaper? Suuuure..

Kylo's cost is totally well balanced. The problem is the meta, not the cost. Bring down costs just for the meta will just snowball the entire game and crushing it in 2 waves.

I don't think it's about the meta, I think the ship is overcosted 2-3pts and would have been in any meta since Wave 8.

4 hours ago, Kdubb said:

Or is it PS 9+ with advanced sensors?

Everyone is going bonkers over the idea of a ship with green turns that can use advanced sensors with push the limit. But... can’t Corran do this with R2 astromech? Yes, he loses R2D2, and perhaps that is reason enough to make the discussion null, but I dont ever remember seeing Corran with r2 Astro run successfully, and Corran is no joke. Which makes me think advanced sensors combined with the highest available ps is where the real power lies.

so maybe it’s simply a culmination of things that makes advanced sensors on the verge of broken on some ships such as Nym and possibly Kylo in the Tie Silencer?

Actually at the moment i believe many players (at least the ones whoe know what they are talking about :-) think the ship is underpowered. It's just overcosted for what it does.

BB-8 + PTL is kinda like that but i still don't run it very often.

Its supersizing how much ptl has gone out of favor for me, locking into green maneuvers often feels worse then getting the extra action at the cost of 3 points. I have stopped using ptl on almost every ship even with hard greens, rather the open maneuver choice. This game is about flying, if you forget that and lock into predictable flying you will loose your games.

It's only ridiculous against any ship that moves before Kylo and also doesn't have a turret. Autothrusters definitely isn't as good as regen. But the extra health + Autothrusters will certainly make him viable. I just don't think he's going to be ridiculous as people say. There are still many things in this game that can dish out a lot of attack dice, and Kylo's defense ceiling against secondary weapons is fixed to 3 evades thanks to a lack of Evade action. He'll be perfectly fine against consistent damage attacks (TLT) but will suffer aganst burst damage (ordnance).

It's more green turns, sensors and primed

If turrets weren't so busted and efficient, you might have seen the combination every now and then esp v rebel stress control or asajj

1 hour ago, Stay On The Leader said:

I don't think it's about the meta, I think the ship is overcosted 2-3pts and would have been in any meta since Wave 8.

Mmm something push me to think that is just an high skill fly ship

11 hours ago, Kdubb said:

Or is it PS 9+ with advanced sensors?

Everyone is going bonkers over the idea of a ship with green turns that can use advanced sensors with push the limit. But... can’t Corran do this with R2 astromech? Yes, he loses R2D2, and perhaps that is reason enough to make the discussion null, but I dont ever remember seeing Corran with r2 Astro run successfully, and Corran is no joke. Which makes me think advanced sensors combined with the highest available ps is where the real power lies.

so maybe it’s simply a culmination of things that makes advanced sensors on the verge of broken on some ships such as Nym and possibly Kylo in the Tie Silencer?

Daredevil, experimental interface, boost, adv sensors and green turns.you can fly in almost a circle without stress.

daredevil action, then boost, then turn maneuver. 90 degrees plus 45 degrees plus 90 is 225. pretty good

42 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:

Daredevil, experimental interface, boost, adv sensors and green turns.you can fly in almost a circle without stress.

daredevil action, then boost, then turn maneuver. 90 degrees plus 45 degrees plus 90 is 225. pretty good

Nope, daredevil and EI both give you stress, so unless there's an inspiring recruit nearby you'll end with 1 stress.

19 hours ago, Rakaydos said:

Just the advance sensor results, and leaving off some of the barrel roll->boost options.

Cool, thanks for the graphic!

then.....Insert a bomb in the center (your choice) and overlap a TLT range band.