Aces you forgot about

By Church14, in Star Wars: Armada

2 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

I played with 1-2 Lancers, VCXs, E/wings and whatnot for a while. Was pretty good.

I haven't used E wings much. I like them, but their abilities are mediocre. I'd use them more if they had a black die for bomber. They are supposed to be the best of the X wing and the A wing combined together, but the A wing has get better chance of damaging a ship.

8 minutes ago, schmidty1701 said:

I haven't used E wings much. I like them, but their abilities are mediocre. I'd use them more if they had a black die for bomber. They are supposed to be the best of the X wing and the A wing combined together, but the A wing has get better chance of damaging a ship.

Yavaris-snipe. Or you might as well not.

5 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Yavaris-snipe. Or you might as well not.

I might try that. Maybe with Adar Tallon in Yavaris, with Corran Horn. It would be great for assassinating enemy uniques.

1 hour ago, schmidty1701 said:

I haven't used E wings much. I like them, but their abilities are mediocre. I'd use them more if they had a black die for bomber. They are supposed to be the best of the X wing and the A wing combined together, but the A wing has get better chance of damaging a ship.

I used them in CC and they always felt like they delivered. Never carried the day, but always pulled their weight. Then I promptly haven’t used them again... hm.

That whole squadron wave (for both factions) strikes me as the “hide behind a few escorts and shine” roles.

7 hours ago, durandal343 said:

Ketsu Onyo.. I think I've used her once. Corran Horn doesn't get out much for me. And Lt. Blount I don't think I've ever used.

I love blount, but i tend to run Squad heavy and I like to win the squad fight which z95's help with dramatically.

1 hour ago, schmidty1701 said:

I might try that. Maybe with Adar Tallon in Yavaris, with Corran Horn. It would be great for assassinating enemy uniques.

Corran is excellent for this. His rogue and better snipe makes him worth about 2 E-mails wings.

8 hours ago, Church14 said:

Keyan Farlander - why do I forget about highest potential bombing damage (4+1 for Norra)?

Nym - which is weird, because his text is a gamechanger if it goes off.

I forgot about Keyan so much that I forgot he rolls two black anti-ship when I added him to my 6 B-Wing list in a tournament a couple weeks ago.

I pulled Nym out when Toryn Farr and BCC became I thing. Combined with Adar and Yavaris, the opportunity was there to remove 3 defense tokens from a ship. What's his battle cry? "Sloane who?"

6 minutes ago, dominosfleet said:

I love blount, but i tend to run Squad heavy and I like to win the squad fight which z95's help with dramatically.

How many do you have? I only have the 2 and I feel like a swarm would be more effective...

I'm not sure when the switch got flipped, but Morna Kee is exploding in popularity recently. She basically functions as a flotilla you activate as a squadron, but unlike a Gozanti she's entirely a combat platform without any support ability. Until realizing that, 27 points feels too expensive for just another Decimator.

In the local area I would not say we forgot about them but do not use.

Rebels no longer (or never) used
Dutch Vander
Ten Numb
Hera Syndulla
Dash Rendar
Biggs Darklighter
Ketsu Onyo

Empire no longer (or never) used
Bossk
Whisper (and any TiE Phantom's)
Ciena Ree
Saber Squadron
Soontir Fel (and any TiE Interceptors)
Black Squadron
Howlfunner
Valen Rudor
Mauler Mithel (and any TiE Fighter)
Captain Jonus
Major Rhymer
Gamma Squadron (and any TiE Bomber)

1 minute ago, CDAT said:

In the local area I would not say we forgot about them but do not use.

Rebels no longer (or never) used
Dutch Vander
Ten Numb
Hera Syndulla
Dash Rendar
Biggs Darklighter
Ketsu Onyo

Empire no longer (or never) used
Bossk
Whisper (and any TiE Phantom's)
Ciena Ree
Saber Squadron
Soontir Fel (and any TiE Interceptors)
Black Squadron
Howlfunner
Valen Rudor
Mauler Mithel (and any TiE Fighter)
Captain Jonus
Major Rhymer
Gamma Squadron (and any TiE Bomber)

So... basically the Imperial players are shunning their best pilots? Interesting.

21 minutes ago, schmidty1701 said:

So... basically the Imperial players are shunning their best pilots? Interesting.

There's some good Imperial aces there, but others have either previously been garbage (Bossk, Soontir) or were always garbage (Jonus, Whisper, Black Squad).

31 minutes ago, CDAT said:

In the local area I would not say we forgot about them but do not use.

Rebels no longer (or never) used
Dutch Vander
Ten Numb
Hera Syndulla
Dash Rendar
Biggs Darklighter
Ketsu Onyo

Empire no longer (or never) used
Bossk
Whisper (and any TiE Phantom's)
Ciena Ree
Saber Squadron
Soontir Fel (and any TiE Interceptors)
Black Squadron
Howlfunner
Valen Rudor
Mauler Mithel (and any TiE Fighter)
Captain Jonus
Major Rhymer
Gamma Squadron (and any TiE Bomber)

No Biggsballs?!? Sacrelig...

Edited by durandal343
7 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

There's some good Imperial aces there, but others have either previously been garbage (Bossk, Soontir) or were always garbage (Jonus, Whisper, Black Squad).

I agree with all of that except Soontir Fel. He messes up my game when he shows up.

4 minutes ago, durandal343 said:

No Biggsballs?!? Sacrelig...

Biggs, Dash, and Ten Numb all being mising indicates some severe weaknesses. But not as many as nearly all the Imperial Aces being missing. Any Imperial squadron meta without Mauler and Valen is suspect right now.

3 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

Biggs, Dash, and Ten Numb all being mising indicates some severe weaknesses. But not as many as nearly all the Imperial Aces being missing. Any Imperial squadron meta without Mauler and Valen is suspect right now.

I guess I should say that when I talk about my meta it isn’t really a meta so much as what @SgtDurandal and I feel like bringing. So I might not have much authority to talk about metas since we are the meta and does two really count? :)

2 hours ago, durandal343 said:

How many do you have? I only have the 2 and I feel like a swarm would be more effective...

when i run them i normally do 3 xwings, rogue squad, 5 Z's and then blount. The X's only need to live long enough for the Z's to do their job which is a round or 2, then i shift the squads to anti ship. I like to run them with a pelta for support.

Just now, durandal343 said:

I guess I should say that when I talk about my meta it isn’t really a meta so much as what @SgtDurandal and I feel like bringing. So I might not have much authority to talk about metas since we are the meta and does two really count? :)

Ah, that's certainly fair.

2 hours ago, schmidty1701 said:

So... basically the Imperial players are shunning their best pilots? Interesting.

No they are using the best, and leaving the junk. With the number of two AA dice ships that the rebels use the three hull fighters last at best two turns, so are just giving points to the rebels. But this may just be local meta.

Captain Jonus is the big suprise for me. On paper he is absolutely amazing but ive never seen him used.

7 hours ago, Ophion said:

Captain Jonus is the big suprise for me. On paper he is absolutely amazing but ive never seen him used.

I love me some Captain Jonus, he makes his way into most of my lists. Granted I also play in a pretty limited meta - it's what to bring with him that I often struggle with.

... Wish Jendon could be forgotten. Would gladly trade Jan for that to happen.

2 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

... Wish Jendon could be forgotten. Would gladly trade Jan for that to happen.

I wish Jendon would defect...

2 minutes ago, durandal343 said:

I wish Jendon would defect...

The Empire has all of the cool squadrons...

3 minutes ago, schmidty1701 said:

The Empire has all of the cool squadrons...

Well that's not true. It just has more fast ones :)

But I guess if squads are like cars then fast=cool? I love most of my Rebel squads. And it seems like this list has more Empire on it than Rebel.

edit: Just had a thought.. does that make B-wings minivans? They get the job done but definitely not flashy...

Edited by durandal343