What to take to a tournament?

By Stefan, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Hi guys,

I - a pretty unexperienced and not terribly good player - am going to a regional tournament soon. I expect Nym meta to be quite dominant, and I generally dislike all the turret and bomb stuff. So my big question is: what do I bring that allows me to play my preferred jouster ships but doesn't give me two days of dying? I love the T70 to death, so I'm pretty much booked with Intensity Poe, but Triple T70 seems like courting disaster. I tried around Rey in a YT1300 as a companion, but I wasn't blown out of the water. I also didn't really liked Super-Dash as a wingman because, again, not a fan of turrets. Any suggestions in which direction to move?

Honestly, if you want to have success at a large event, especially against Nym, you're going to need to embrace the turrets. If you're a Poe fan, something like this could work...

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Han Solo (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
C-3PO (3)
Rey (2)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Total: 98

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Or, take what you like but anticipate not being at the top tables.

If you like 3 T70s, take them and enjoy your day. All the Regionals I've attended (3!) have been full of jank, even if the top players have been wall-to-wall jumpmasters and now Nym.

Another viable tactic; play against the meta. If you know/suspect what you will be facing.

You can build a list to counter that. Things Bombs hate, Ion (Reveal), Stress (Action), Bomblet is very common so Ion would stop that.

As for turrets; as suggested a build like Poe will dance around them.

46 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Honestly, if you want to have success at a large event, especially against Nym, you're going to need to embrace the turrets. If you're a Poe fan, something like this could work...

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Han Solo (46)
Veteran Instincts (1)
C-3PO (3)
Rey (2)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (1)

Total: 98

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Why Han Solo over Rey?

16 minutes ago, Gilarius said:

Or, take what you like but anticipate not being at the top tables.

If you like 3 T70s, take them and enjoy your day. All the Regionals I've attended (3!) have been full of jank, even if the top players have been wall-to-wall jumpmasters and now Nym.

My problem isn't anticipating losing the tournament, no problem with that. What I dread are two days with games that are incredibly lopsided due to mechanisms I hate and going home intensely frustrated.

11 minutes ago, the1hodgy said:

Another viable tactic; play against the meta. If you know/suspect what you will be facing.

You can build a list to counter that. Things Bombs hate, Ion (Reveal), Stress (Action), Bomblet is very common so Ion would stop that.

As for turrets; as suggested a build like Poe will dance around them.

What do you mean?

If you must have Poe, then autothrusters for all three X-wings instead of integrated might be the best mod for the meta right now.

If you're okay with swapping Poe for a baby blue, then 4 T70s with Integrated R2s is great fun for jousting.

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7 minutes ago, Stefan said:

Why Han Solo over Rey?

This meta wants turrets to kite rather than joust. I'd rather it be Rey, cuz I love her, but Han is probably a better meta call.

10 minutes ago, Stefan said:

My problem isn't anticipating losing the tournament, no problem with that. What I dread are two days with games that are incredibly lopsided due to mechanisms I hate and going home intensely frustrated.

I will be taking Porkins, Dutch and Hobbie to a 120 player tournament in a fortnight. There will be people who are extremely good there, although some might bring idiocyncratic lists like mine. I expect to lose most games, but I enjoy flying these admittedly weak ships/pilots even if I get curb-stomped some of the time. I do have a chance at winning a few games, but only once I'm near the bottom!

Suppose I get Miranda/Nym in a game? My 'win condition' might become: score some points, or get one of them in arc and knock their shields down; or to make Porkins explode without help from the opponent! I intend to enjoy myself regardless.

Now, if the mechanisms you expect to face (Mindlink? Jumps? Bombs? TLT? Miranda/Nym? Etc) are enough to make you not enjoy the games at all, then don't go - in the UK, at least, there are quite a few restricted tournaments such as Waves 1-3; Only ships seen in the Original Trilogy; or missions with alternative objectives, so there are ways to play without some of the current annoyances. If you don't have any of these, suggest them to people and see if they like the idea?

Or, try Han & Poe and see if you enjoy flying Poe enough to make the whole experience worth your while even if you feel Han isn't fun.

18 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

If you must have Poe, then autothrusters for all three X-wings instead of integrated might be the best mod for the meta right now.

If you're okay with swapping Poe for a baby blue, then 4 T70s with Integrated R2s is great fun for jousting.

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Good call - Nym probably struggles against these if they are flown well, and there are enough ships that Miranda/Dengar/Dash might have problems too.

23 hours ago, Stefan said:

What do you mean?

So I build lists that beat what am most worried about & i've had success doing this; the current "Anti-Meta" list i've had success recently with is;

Total ReContol (100)

•Torkil Mux (29) - HWK-290

Ion Cannon Turret (5), •4-LOM (1), Ion Dischargers (2) (Proxy), Pulsed Ray Shield (2)

•Asajj Ventress (39) - Lancer-class Pursuit Craft

Trick Shot (0), •Latts Razzi (2)

Contracted Scout (32) - JumpMaster 5000

•A Score to Settle (0), Plasma Torpedoes (3), Extra Munitions (2) •Boba Fett (1), Unhinged Astromech (1), Guidance Chips (0)

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It shuts Nym fast and hard; How it works Start of Combat; I drop Nym PS0; Asajj deal a stress; then Asajj fires (normally with Focus and TL), Torkil fires Ion Cannon; (use 4LOM if r1 and then Ion Discharge (Nym rarely takes the Ion). Nym is now stressed and Ionized. Then fire with Scout; (TL and Focus normally again). If damage is low i.e. only just bit into hull use score to settle into a crit and Boba off bomblet. I normally face Nym with Autoblaster; so i put torkil R1, he will pulse ray; if my angle is correct and will be out of R1 following tern, I don't discharge the second Ion (nym will take it as he will already have one)

Asajj is a fantastic late game ship so keeping here alive is key; the other two are expendable after they have done the above.

Now I don't know how this translates into Rebels lists; but Ion is strong against Nym; as this means he can't drop bomblets the turn he is ionized.

Edited by the1hodgy
19 hours ago, Gilarius said:

Good call - Nym probably struggles against these if they are flown well, and there are enough ships that Miranda/Dengar/Dash might have problems too.

Indeed. 4 T-70s is a big enough mass of metal that you can seriously threaten a lot of the low-agility ships out there at the moment - a T-70 can take a torpedo or a bomblet and autoblaster burst and keep going with nothing but lost shields, whilst four T-70s at medium-close range can blow Nym to scrap metal in a single shooting phase

So, what I had in mind until this discussion was one of the following:

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Han Solo (TFA) (46)
Rage (1)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Inspiring Recruit (1)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Total: 100

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OR

Poe Dameron (31)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Comm Relay (3)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Black One (1)

Jess Pava (25)
M9-G8 (3)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Nien Nunb (29)
Rage (1)
R3-A2 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

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I still don't like turrets, but I'd take this:

Jake Farrell (24)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Proton Rockets (3)
Push the Limit (3)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)

Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
R7-T1 (3)

Poe Dameron (31)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 99

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