Norm had a **** of run getting there having to go through 2 gallant haven lists.

Also Nicks list comprised of:

5 GR75s -1 with jamming field, one with hondo, 1 with comms net

MC80 Assault cruiser - Ackbar, Defiance, Intel, RBD, redundant shields, leading shots, XI-7s, Etechs

2 VCXs

7-Z95s

Lt blount

Adv gunnery, Fire lanes, Intel sweep

and the coveted sacred medallion of the Red Dice God

Screw this ****. Cr90B's with Engine Techs need to be commonplace to eradicate these boring lists once and for all. I've had enough of this.

@Truthiness you know what to do.

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

Screw this ****. Cr90B's with Engine Techs need to be commonplace to eradicate these boring lists once and for all. I've had enough of this.

@Truthiness you know what to do.

He's working on it.

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

Screw this ****. Cr90B's with Engine Techs need to be commonplace to eradicate these boring lists once and for all. I've had enough of this.

@Truthiness you know what to do.

Isn't his version CR90A's with ET and TRC?

1 minute ago, GiledPallaeon said:

Isn't his version CR90A's with ET and TRC?

Yup...and Admo. All with Madine so he can park them anywhere he wants. I hate it.

Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:

Yup...and Admo. All with Madine so he can park them anywhere he wants. I hate it.

Yeah, I promised him a game against my tourney Sloane list just to give it a try. I might need to take a Cymoon against that nonsense.

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

Screw this ****. Cr90B's with Engine Techs need to be commonplace to eradicate these boring lists once and for all. I've had enough of this.

@Truthiness you know what to do.

I will finish what you started. I'm considering tweaking it to downgrade one TRC90 back to a CRambo. I don't have engine techs on Jaina's Light and that bothers me. 4x Engine Techs sounds better to me.

39 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

I will finish what you started. I'm considering tweaking it to downgrade one TRC90 back to a CRambo. I don't have engine techs on Jaina's Light and that bothers me. 4x Engine Techs sounds better to me.

Good idea.

How was Hondo played? Giving tokens from the pool?

Just to have an idea of how those things are being ruled. National is close. And will try to ask them but you know, we just have a date and a place.

10 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

How was Hondo played? Giving tokens from the pool?

Just to have an idea of how those things are being ruled. National is close. And will try to ask them but you know, we just have a date and a place.

I hope Hondo was played in the way the actual upgrade card is worded.

40 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

I hope Hondo was played in the way the actual upgrade card is worded.

And boarding engineers?

and task force Antilles?

12 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

And boarding engineers?

and task force Antilles?

TFA can possibly be interpreted to trigger once per point of damage (actually I'd kind of like that), but how is Boarding Engineers controversial? Jog my memory plz.

1 minute ago, Green Knight said:

TFA can possibly be interpreted to trigger once per point of damage (actually I'd kind of like that), but how is Boarding Engineers controversial? Jog my memory plz.

Structural damage deals a new card and the player want to look at that.

I would say no. And that's the common place I think.

37 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Structural damage deals a new card and the player want to look at that.

I would say no. And that's the common place I think.

Ah, ok. That's a resounding NO!

11 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Ah, ok. That's a resounding NO!

I am not asking what is the correct resolution. I ask HOW it was resolved?

7 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

How was Hondo played? Giving tokens from the pool?

Just to have an idea of how those things are being ruled. National is close. And will try to ask them but you know, we just have a date and a place.

The way it was played is that the tokens where drawn from the "bank", as opposed to taken of different ships.

BTW, if anyone has any other questions,

I was on site playing (finished 6th) and provided commentary for finals stream

1 hour ago, Panzerninja said:

BTW, if anyone has any other questions,

I was on site playing (finished 6th) and provided commentary for finals stream

7 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

And boarding engineers?

and task force Antilles?

oh i did not see either of those played, i don't think either was brought so no ruling had to be made

On 26/09/2017 at 3:42 AM, Ginkapo said:

Screw this ****. Cr90B's with Engine Techs need to be commonplace to eradicate these boring lists once and for all. I've had enough of this.

@Truthiness you know what to do.

Lol, yes bring back ramships... that will solve everything...

Actually I agree with some of the others though, I don't think the lists are the problem I think the win by 1 pt is.

On 9/26/2017 at 8:20 PM, beefcake4000 said:

Lol, yes bring back ramships... that will solve everything...

Actually I agree with some of the others though, I don't think the lists are the problem I think the win by 1 pt is.

If the designers didn't want ramming to be a solution to flotillas, then they won't have the rule that they do. Anyway, straight ramming lists have never and will never be a truly viable list. That's why I've made my list able to ram, but not the primary thing it wants to do.

And yes, the lists are a problem for me. There a some people that no longer post that left the game because they were seeing this emerging flotilla problem. This isn't a new thing and it's not getting better. So call me lame or cheap for ramming the **** out of flotillas, because I'm gonna call 3+ flotillas lame right back.

Bad news:

The Vassal World Cup has no plans to change its award winning* format.

*Steel Squadron Award For Format Excelence I Made Up Just Now.

1 hour ago, BiggsIRL said:

Bad news:

The Vassal World Cup has no plans to change its award winning* format.

*Steel Squadron Award For Format Excelence I Made Up Just Now.

Vassal is a bit different - one must keep players' attention over weeks and months. Elimination rounds are one way of doing that.

Plus there is no prize for vassal so may as well try and batter your opponent 10-1 on livestream and take the kudos.