7 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:And Zeb is based off of McQuarrie's first drawings of Chewbacca.
And the T-70 based on McQuarries concept art for the T-65. Or simply X-Wing as it was at the time...
Pre-order from FFG
2 hours ago, Thormind said:I hope you mean the look and not the characteristics. Silencer is basically DOA from the first preview alone.
Not a certainty, so I am not accepting it as such.
19 hours ago, Zeoinx said:Dispite what people thought of Episode 1-3, the ships at least looked cooler, and no matter what anyone's views of anything else about the series, it at least was created by Lucas himself. It was HIS creation, if he wanted to ruin it, that is his prerogative. How would you feel if you created a epic movie that changed cinema for ages, only to have someone with a bunch of money be able to pretty much steal control of it and then throw 90% of what you authorized to exist beyond your own creation to be thrown in the garbage. Friends of yours, co-workers, people who helped shape your creation basicly thrown under the bus just in the name of M.O.N.E.Y. Its sad that noone teaches anyone these days there are more important things besides money.
You realize that is like exactly what Lucas did right? In the early days Lucas had very little power to enforce his "vision" (which you can see when he had no one question his ideas we got the turds that were the prequels). About 90% of all the things people love about star wars was not due to Lucas but to the many others that worked on the project, but they rarely receive any credit. And Lucas was always about the M.O.N.E.Y. His decisions during the entire process were totally motivated around selling toys he held the **** merchandising rights. Empire quite literally invented the merchandising marketing for movies that is so commonplace today. Star Wars has been a toy franchise, not a movie one, since day one. Even with Disney's, recent, uptick in marketing and merchandising items, they have nothing on the amount of garbage Lucas put his brand on.
And not to say any of that is bad. Just you can't pretend that Lucas was doing this for the art of the situation, he was in it for the money as much as Disney is.
3 hours ago, Zeoinx said:If disney wanted to impress me, they would take more time to analyze what made the ot and some of the eu great to begin with...
Fixed it. There was a lot to like in a bunch of the EU, but there was also a ton of material that would better serve as examples of what not to do.
1 hour ago, JJ48 said:Fixed it. There was a lot to like in a bunch of the EU, but there was also a ton of material that would better serve as examples of what not to do.
Seriously. The only truly great part of the EU that I regret losing is Mara Jade, but even that still has potential to return in some fashion once they flesh out the area between E6 and E7. Sadly, she'd still probably be destined for a fridge.
But thank god the Yuhzen Vong and Chewbacca's death by falling moon were relegated to the dumpster.
1 minute ago, PhantomFO said:Seriously. The only truly great part of the EU that I regret losing is Mara Jade, but even that still has potential to return in some fashion once they flesh out the area between E6 and E7. Sadly, she'd still probably be destined for a fridge.
But thank god the Yuhzen Vong and Chewbacca's death by falling moon were relegated to the dumpster.
I liked the X-Wing series of books (and also the PC games!), the Thrawn trilogy, and maybe a few other individual novels.
Too many of the EU books either got into power-creep of trying to outdo themselves (<cough, cough, ANDERSON, cough>), or else didn't fit with the feel of the universe at all, and just came across like an author writing a completely unrelated sci-fi/space fantasy and then slapping in some well-known characters so it would sell more copies.
I just miss Han punching out giant space weasels.
1 hour ago, JJ48 said:I liked the X-Wing series of books (and also the PC games!), the Thrawn trilogy, and maybe a few other individual novels.
Too many of the EU books either got into power-creep of trying to outdo themselves (<cough, cough, ANDERSON, cough>), or else didn't fit with the feel of the universe at all, and just came across like an author writing a completely unrelated sci-fi/space fantasy and then slapping in some well-known characters so it would sell more copies.
The X-Wing Novels, and the Rogue Squadron missions in games and other media like comics were a great loss. Wedge Antillies was swept under a rug, (granted the actor who potrayed him basicly didnt wanna come back) but they could have recasted him, same with the loss of Tycho, Hobbie and Corran, all exellent characters...
Also wasnt the space weasles the Salorians or something like that?
22 hours ago, Zeoinx said:Dispite what people thought of Episode 1-3, the ships at least looked cooler, and no matter what anyone's views of anything else about the series, it at least was created by Lucas himself. It was HIS creation, if he wanted to ruin it, that is his prerogative. How would you feel if you created a epic movie that changed cinema for ages, only to have someone with a bunch of money be able to pretty much steal control of it and then throw 90% of what you authorized to exist beyond your own creation to be thrown in the garbage. Friends of yours, co-workers, people who helped shape your creation basicly thrown under the bus just in the name of M.O.N.E.Y. Its sad that noone teaches anyone these days there are more important things besides money.
Accurate. There is something better than money.
8 hours ago, JJ48 said:Fixed it. There was a lot to like in a bunch of the EU, but there was also a ton of material that would better serve as examples of what not to do.
5 hours ago, Celestial Lizards said:Accurate. There is something better than money.
Fully agree here. My geckos are better than money.
On 9/25/2017 at 1:13 PM, JJ48 said:...
Too many of the EU books either got into power-creep of trying to outdo themselves (<cough, cough, ANDERSON, cough>), or else didn't fit with the feel of the universe at all, and just came across like an author writing a completely unrelated sci-fi/space fantasy and then slapping in some well-known characters so it would sell more copies.
While I certainly am not a fan of power-creep/one upmanship the idea of having some "unrelated" thing be turned into StarWars is what I feel really helps expand and flesh out the galaxy. Maybe you think there is a necessary "feel" for StarWars but I really appreciate it when things can have a different feel for them yet still fit nicely into the Star Wars universe as I believe that helps make it feel lived in.
As for the topic of FFG taking pre-orders I don't see why they wouldn't. Is it so much different from other company's kickstarter campaigns which are effectively pre-sales. Now maybe they are going to make things so hard to get that pre-ordering them at full MSRP it a good idea but I'm not about to do that.
1 minute ago, StevenO said:While I certainly am not a fan of power-creep/one upmanship the idea of having some "unrelated" thing be turned into StarWars is what I feel really helps expand and flesh out the galaxy. Maybe you think there is a necessary "feel" for StarWars but I really appreciate it when things can have a different feel for them yet still fit nicely into the Star Wars universe as I believe that helps make it feel lived in.
As for the topic of FFG taking pre-orders I don't see why they wouldn't. Is it so much different from other company's kickstarter campaigns which are effectively pre-sales. Now maybe they are going to make things so hard to get that pre-ordering them at full MSRP it a good idea but I'm not about to do that.
Oh, I have no problem with people wanting to expand the galaxy or add something new. The problem is that some of the EU authors' works didn't fit into the Star Wars universe.