why Ninja?
[Mafia] CorSec Training - DAY 3
1 minute ago, PodRacer said:why Ninja?
Cause I was thinking on him or Toad and he did that "day chat stuff" on Ebon and started questioning why Ebon died. I mean, even if there was not any reason like throwing shade on you or JJ, or you getting fun, or they thinking he could be a power role or whatever, there is always the most basic reason: to make town think about what doesn't matter.
At then end you can call it guts. However I am not 100% against him. I follow other tracks but I need them to develop.
For example I didn't go against Cal about his breadcrumb cause I wanted to wait if he died. He didn't so:
1. Scum think he is really town.
2. He is scum.
Not too much reaction about him not being dead. I am wondering the true reasons now.
Another thing: no one ever questioned me about my vote on Mad. It was clearly a joke vote but I had time to change it on Cal for example. It makes me think I am the next victim.
That's the thing. They have no day chat but they can make plans during nights. The main topics so far this day are:
1. Ebon died? Weird!
2. We should lynch one of those three guys: Norell, Vis or Onidsen.
I try to keep myself far from scum agenda.
Onidsen was backup as a town read (I also read him town) what worries me. About the other two all scum need is 1 town leading (not necessarily the first vote rather than the vote that points the direction one way or another) it and then build the wagon. And of course at least one scum will try to keep himself out of it like Toad is doing.
I was thinking Toad or Ninja first thing. I took Ebon death quite personally and thought maybe someone was playing mind games with me, and they were top suspects for that reason, but reviewing so far i think that Definately Toad and prob ninja too wouldnt want 48 hours of angry Pod nipping their heels if they were scum.
Definately my next line of thought tho if ebons leads draw a blank.
2 hours ago, PodRacer said:The other thing thats seeming a bit off to me...
@ovinomanc3r whats happened to the meme machine from last game, you seem really quiet here...
2 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:No fisherman, no spice adict. No weird things to joke about this game.
But if you want my thoughts I will give you.
Totally weird. This is not Ovi normally at all. This is Mafia. How would we not want your thoughts. You hid day one and are now throwing serious shade and when Pod calls you out, you then write lengthy posts.
Right now here are my reads:
of Vis/Norell: I'm leaning Vis. Norell as hammer could be scum, but I'm thinking that's riskier.
Toad: Clings to Cal from a really small piece of evidence. Votes on him again d1 quickly but doesn't offer much more.
Ovinomanc3r:off. Not his meme self. Hides D1, leaves a joke vote on Mads all the way through? His last long post reads of someone protecting themself, not town.
3 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:
Totally weird. This is not Ovi normally at all. This is Mafia. How would we not want your thoughts. You hid day one and are now throwing serious shade and when Pod calls you out, you then write lengthy posts.
Throwing shades? I am really out of that. I don't think I threw shade to anyone.
Pod was just lucky and got me while I have time.
If I am not sharing my thoughts more often is that cause, as I said, I am waiting to see how that develop. Am I lurking? Of course! But I am not going to share with everyone that I think who the cop is.
Btw why I should behave normally when I lost almost every game as town? (And I did not better as scum). Necessarily I am looking for a different approach.
1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:Throwing shades? I am really out of that. I don't think I threw shade to anyone. Umm, guess you're not counting me?
Pod was just lucky and got me while I have time.
If I am not sharing my thoughts more often is that cause, as I said, I am waiting to see how that develop. Am I lurking? Of course! But I am not going to share with everyone that I think who the cop is. What?! Who asked you this?
Btw why I should behave normally when I lost almost every game as town? (And I did not better as scum). Necessarily I am looking for a different approach. I t is so apparent though. It just doesn't seem like you
Alright, I don't want to get into another Cninj v Broba situation, but **** Ovi you are sending my Scumdar off the chart.
9 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:Ovinomanc3r:off. Not his meme self. Hides D1, leaves a joke vote on Mads all the way through? His last long post reads of someone protecting themself, not town.
I am town ergo I am protecting the town.
Let's say we lynch Vis and flipped town. Then what?
Look that I am not saying they cannot be scum, just that scum will put the weight on the town in hat debate. Easier if both are town.
Are you telling me that everyone think that all the scum are on Mad's wagon?
5 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:Alright, I don't want to get into another Cninj v Broba situation, but **** Ovi you are sending my Scumdar off the chart.
I can tell you where you can send your scum radar
What shade I ever cast? If voting based on logic (no matter if it's wrong) is throwing shade then who doesn't?
So @ovinomanc3r are both Visovics and Norell clean in your book?
58 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:So @ovinomanc3r are both Visovics and Norell clean in your book?
No they are not.
Okay guys after giving the thread a re-read I'm going to
## unvote
I'm thinking either Vis or Norell... right now I'm leaning Vis
2 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:I am town ergo I am protecting the town.
Let's say we lynch Vis and flipped town. Then what?
Look that I am not saying they cannot be scum, just that scum will put the weight on the town in hat debate. Easier if both are town.
Are you telling me that everyone think that all the scum are on Mad's wagon?
I can tell you where you can send your scum radar
What shade I ever cast? If voting based on logic (no matter if it's wrong) is throwing shade then who doesn't?
I don't think all of the scum were on the Mad train but I'd put everything on one of them being scum and when you look at who jumped over from the Cal train I think it narrows it down to...
Oni, Vis, and Norell....
as ive said I'm leaning Vis right now, I also have some worries about Oni... and Norell has the perfect no-lynch argument
I respect that you are looking at those who weren't in both trains... but I'm pretty sure one of these guys is scum and we should keep the pressure up
1 hour ago, TheToad said:and Norell has the perfect no-lynch argument
Wait wait wait, so I am suspect #1 because I changed my vote to avoid a no lynch but Norell gets the the perfect no-lynch argument just because he was the hammer?
5 minutes ago, Visovics said:Wait wait wait, so I am suspect #1 because I changed my vote to avoid a no lynch but Norell gets the the perfect no-lynch argument just because he was the hammer?
It seems.
Would you vote Norell?
5 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:It seems.
Would you vote Norell?
It's something I am considering. He voted an hour after me, 2 to go. No defense from Mad, couldn't he have waited a bit more time? I get it if he wouldn't be able to log in for the next 2 hours, but with no defense from Mad, was it truly the best move to do it when there was a window of time where Mad could come? @Norell can you answer me those questions?
Yup. I logged in from my phone which can't display the clock. When I logged in I assumed that the day is already over. Then I've read everything and I didn't know exactly how much time left. I assumed there could be only minutes, half an hour tops so I rather dropped the hammer.
30 minutes ago, Visovics said:Wait wait wait, so I am suspect #1 because I changed my vote to avoid a no lynch but Norell gets the the perfect no-lynch argument just because he was the hammer?
Trust me Norell isn't clean in this and he's not getting a pass because he was the hammer
If it came to a vote between you and Norell I'd vote you atm
Clearly if either of us is lynched and flips town the other will be up next.
8 minutes ago, Norell said:Clearly if either of us is lynched and flips town the other will be up next.
That's the scum agenda.
40 minutes ago, Visovics said:It's something I am considering. He voted an hour after me, 2 to go. No defense from Mad, couldn't he have waited a bit more time? I get it if he wouldn't be able to log in for the next 2 hours, but with no defense from Mad, was it truly the best move to do it when there was a window of time where Mad could come? @Norell can you answer me those questions?
So you put Mad at l-1 and you hoped that others would take their time to hammer? Scum included?
Just now, ovinomanc3r said:So you put Mad at l-1 and you hoped that others would take their time to hammer? Scum included?
I actually thought I put him at L-2 at the time I posted, after that I ended up looking back and realized he was at L-1 and looked at the time, and I thought it'd be worth more to keep the vote on Mads
10 Players, 6 to hammer:
- @JJs Juggernaut
- @CaribbeanNinja (1) ovinomanc3r
- @Visovics - (1) JJ
- @Norell - (1) Pod
- @ImperialCaptain2017
- @Onidsen
- @TheToad
- @ovinomanc3r
- @PodRacer
- @Caldias
I'll be doing this on my phone, so sorry for the lack of line throughs.
11 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:That's the scum agenda.
Who's pushing this Ovi? Me? Toad? I'm not sure about TheToad at all, your logic it really backwards here.
Are Norell and Vis clean? Ovi answers no.
People start saying "Hmm...Vis and Norell are looking suspicious." Ovi says "Thats the scum agenda.
How are you so certain now, after being so quiet Day 1?
Could Norell and Vis both be town.
Abso****inglutely.
All we have right now is the vote yesterday; and the pulling off from Cal at the end to hammer Mads reeks.
And yes, Oni needs to be in that discussion as well.
However, right now nobody in my mind is perfectly clean (excepting my @$$) . I can see Pod pushing for the Mads lynch as scum. I can see the faux pas of ImpCaptain being tells of scum. And I'm certainly super suspicious Of Ovinomanc3r.
None of us off the vote (Cal, The Toad, Me) are clear either (Although I know I am town), but it seems like a stretch to say that the scum were totally absent from Mads' lynching.