I say let's take a riskiet path. Currently we are at 50/50 chances without enough evidence.
Let's not lynch anybody. It would work better for us and if I live to see the next day, I'll explain why I think so.
##novote
[Mafia] CorSec Training - DAY 3
I saw the countdown ended. Does it means it is night?
22 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:I saw the countdown ended. Does it means it is night?
Not till the fat lady sings. GNips said earlier.
@CaribbeanNinja the correct answer, not necessarily the correct way of action was to lynch JJ. In your case as Imp was in mine. All we know is Norell alignment and ours. If we fail choosing we lose so who cares then. But if we.choose wisely, in my case lynching JJ and flipping he scum doesn't tell me anything about you. Lynching Imp says me you are town as JJ would be. Your lack of a proper answer doesn't make you guilty of anything but if you would have given me that answer I would be sure you are town.
@PodRacer I don't understand your belligerence. Yes I am accusing you (if I ever accused rather than throwing a stone blindly) but I think my point is understandable. I didn't ask anyone to follow. I said "cada burro se lama su cipote" and voted what I think. I am not completely convinced. Actually I would trust a third cop claim more than those two we have.
@JJs Juggernaut why you didn't investigate Ebon? I lose the answer maybe.
From my point of view I would like to JJ said the true cause:
- I know I am town
- Norell is town
- JJ would be town
- CNinja would be town
- Imp would be scum
- Cal and Toad cannot be town so Pod would be scum.
- Cal or Toad, one of them would be town and the other scum.
CNinja can get exactly the same just changing JJ with Imp.
If the case is the opposite it is not so clear.
I am tempted to sum both situations under the premise that CNinja is town. Actually it could work as JJ and Imp knows the true behind some pieces. Imp could agree with CNinja's perspective about me as JJ agrees with me about CNinja. So... Pod. Pod is scum. Unless CNinja or me were not.
Even being wrong about my reasoning voting between CNinja-Toad-Cal-Pod has a 50% as Imp-JJ is too.
So I am going to
## unvote JJ
## vote Pod
It is quite possible that we won't find an agreement before the end. So plan b
If we don't lynch what is not completely bad. JJ investigates me and Imp investigates CNinja. And let's see what happens!
Ovi wtf?
## vote imp cap
if u think he's dirty, stop smearing me and put your money where your mouth is
##unvote
##vote impcap
Of everyone that flip flopped in this one Ovi wants to push on the remaining town hardest.
His vote on me finally confirms his intentions, that there was no correct move he would allow me to take and it's likely he wants a dead pod or Jj to wrap this up for the mafia
Day Over. . . sorry for the delay. I am catching up now.
With a lot of debate, and much confusion, the candidates prove unable to see through the veils of lies to the truth, and the day ends without the death of anyone, be they mafia or town.
8 Players, 5 to hammer:
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@JJs Juggernaut
(3)
ovi, Imp, Toad,Cal,Pod, Cal - @CaribbeanNinja
- @Norell
- @ImperialCaptain2017 (3) JJ, CNinja, Pod
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@TheToad
Pod - @ovinomanc3r
- @PodRacer (1) ovi
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@Caldias
Toad -
Novote - (1)
Toad,Pod, Norell
It is now NIGHT!
12 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:(meta: It is pretty awesome actually. This has been the most fun game in a while I think. Cheers Nips)
10 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:I agree with CNinja it was fun.
Thanks!
Well, after the dithering of yesterday, what could anyone expect?
@Norell has failed his exam! He was a vanilla town.
7 Players, 4 to hammer:
That was obvious.
I hope Imp and JJ didn't make us to wait too much.
Look on the bright side: we have two cops working for us!
How I didn't wake up in observerland, I don't know, but here's what I got: CNinja is town. That means that we know:
JJ (scum)
Cninja (town)
Me (cop)
Toad
Ovi (town)
Pod
Cal
Three unknowns, and two scum in that mix. Not bad odds...( yes, do tell me the odds)
3 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:How I didn't wake up in observerland, I don't know, but here's what I got: CNinja is town. That means that we know:
JJ (scum)
Cninja (town)
Me (cop)
Toad
Ovi (town)
Pod
Cal
Three unknowns, and two scum in that mix. Not bad odds...( yes, do tell me the odds)
Well that means CNinja is completely clear.
On October 3, 2017 at 2:36 AM, ovinomanc3r said:@CaribbeanNinja the correct answer, not necessarily the correct way of action was to lynch JJ. In your case as Imp was in mine. All we know is Norell alignment and ours. If we fail choosing we lose so who cares then. But if we.choose wisely, in my case lynching JJ and flipping he scum doesn't tell me anything about you. Lynching Imp says me you are town as JJ would be. Your lack of a proper answer doesn't make you guilty of anything but if you would have given me that answer I would be sure you are town.
@PodRacer I don't understand your belligerence. Yes I am accusing you (if I ever accused rather than throwing a stone blindly) but I think my point is understandable. I didn't ask anyone to follow. I said "cada burro se lama su cipote" and voted what I think. I am not completely convinced. Actually I would trust a third cop claim more than those two we have.
@JJs Juggernaut why you didn't investigate Ebon? I lose the answer maybe.
From my point of view I would like to JJ said the true cause:
- I know I am town
- Norell is town
- JJ would be town
- CNinja would be town
- Imp would be scum
- Cal and Toad cannot be town so Pod would be scum.
- Cal or Toad, one of them would be town and the other scum.
CNinja can get exactly the same just changing JJ with Imp.
If the case is the opposite it is not so clear.
I am tempted to sum both situations under the premise that CNinja is town. Actually it could work as JJ and Imp knows the true behind some pieces. Imp could agree with CNinja's perspective about me as JJ agrees with me about CNinja. So... Pod. Pod is scum. Unless CNinja or me were not.
Even being wrong about my reasoning voting between CNinja-Toad-Cal-Pod has a 50% as Imp-JJ is too.
So I am going to
## unvote JJ
## vote Pod
It is quite possible that we won't find an agreement before the end. So plan b
If we don't lynch what is not completely bad. JJ investigates me and Imp investigates CNinja. And let's see what happens!
This post right here makes me think I was actually right.
If we had lynched JJ, and he was the Cop, we lose. "Proper answer " is a stretch. The proper answer has yet to be determined.
There are still three goons, so please no voting at all until everyone gets a chance to weigh in.
26 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:This post right here makes me think I was actually right.
If we had lynched JJ, and he was the Cop, we lose. "Proper answer " is a stretch. The proper answer has yet to be determined.
There are still three goons, so please no voting at all until everyone gets a chance to weigh in.
I am not going to vote until JJ said the result of his investigation. But I am quite happy about what Imp said.
First things first, Good work Norell! you saved my ***. I salute you sir.
Second Salute is to the Scum team who have pushed town really hard in this one, But alas all your lies and deceit Didnt get you the actual cop last night did it? Close but No cigar.
How Do I know This? I AM THE TOWN COP.
I investigated Cal N1 and he was a boring townie, Oni N2 after his suggestion about Investigating Norell and hanging Vis, It seemed like a really bad idea, and hence scummy. Last night I investigated Ovi and got a confirmed scum read, Just for my own peace of mind, obviously I already had 2 confirmed scummers but Didnt want to reveal myself and get NK lastnight.
I cant believe how close I got to the lynch on JJ last night, Great time to be indecisive Cal, already 6am here, and the wife was calling me scum for being on the Ipad all night trying to get that lynch! So annoying! You forced me into having to gamble that we didnt lose this on who the NK was. Booo!
So yes, We have a scum team of OVI IMPCAP and JJ. A double Gambit to get me to reveal myself. Believe me, I nearly did a couple of times!!
Sorry to the@thetoad, I had to try and get your attention that Cal wasnt scum without outing myself, so its been a bit of a tightrope. I could see you pushing Cal wrongly. And with Four town and a scum in the Scum 3 of 5 yesterday we all wanted to blame each other, but your lead on cal would have cost town the game if you had even managed to convince one other towny. I named you as alligned with JJ later to give the impression I was still misguided astown so they would think me less likely cop( in my mind!)
JJs reveal was a surpise! Although as many sensed he didnt even seem to believe his own story. You would have been pocketed hard today ninja if JJ had died. They are still trying bless them, but they know the games up.
Really nice play from the scum, either cop lynched yesterday would flip scum, and the other would be clear.. IF they Got to me First.
I dont know optimal Cop play either, so If i have revealed this badly I apologise or played it wrong, Iv done what felt nessesary at each step to hide myself, and keep my townmates from killing each other! That seemed more important than coming right out to counter Impcap, as I would have put myself out there yesterday, and I could see Ovi pushing for Bad town agenda, I just saw through his bluffs more as day passed.
Time is short for me here, my Car is going in for service for the afternoon so I will shortly be AFK for the afternoon, but after then im all yours.
DONT Let Ovi and the boys Turbo me whilst im Absent!!!
@CaribbeanNinja As Double town im leaving you in charge of these prisoners till my car is fixed!
I consider myself Insta L-1. SO dont vote me for info town, just ask and il get back to you later!
If you want evidence of my claim, look at Ovis entire input to this one, Its full of holes, full of predictions only a scum could be so accurate about.
Talk to you later.
Lol I read it with curiosity until I read your investigation on me. Lol. Good try. Thanks for the free scum name Pod.
This just keeps getting better and better. (Btw Pod I am now XXX Town!
)
The funny thing is, that right now Pod's case is kinda believable.
48 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:This just keeps getting better and better. (Btw Pod I am now XXX Town!
The funny thing is, that right now Pod's case is kinda believable.
Yeah sure! Wait, no! With a fake-cop no-counterclaimed we got Cal and Toad (townies) about to get lynched what meant scum win. The two fake-claim tactic leaded to a no-lynch. And we would have know there was still the true cop that, actually, we didn't need to hunt down as long as we get a town lynched so....
1st We shut up to see if the cop claims to kill him at night. And that knowing he was not gping to do cause Norell, the investigated one, was town.
2nd Ok he didn't so we fake claim to uncover him. He didn't but, we are going to lynch a townie so not so bad.
3rd We almost got the win so we chose to put a 2nd fake claim out to push a) a lynch between two scum being sure we didn't win when we could or b) skip the lynch being sure we didn't win when we could.
Yeah! It has all the sense!
But we are too clever. We thought at long term, we saw the true cop coming today, we gave him two names not being sure if he already had the third and knowing the true cop finally would show himself we planned to say that CNinja was town to be sure, just in case the true cop investigated the third scum, town had, again, a 100% town reference.
Jesus, this is like watching the end of Spartacus.
K... I’m hella confused now
yikes, new exhaust manifold £££
ask me questions - before i run out of money for the power bill.
4 minutes ago, PodRacer said:yikes, new exhaust manifold £££
ask me questions - before i run out of money for the power bill.
Help me understand this (could be my poor English
)
5 hours ago, PodRacer said:Sorry to the@thetoad, I had to try and get your attention that Cal wasnt scum without outing myself, so its been a bit of a tightrope. I could see you pushing Cal wrongly. And with Four town and a scum in the Scum 3 of 5 yesterday we all wanted to blame each other, but your lead on cal would have cost town the game if you had even managed to convince one other towny. I named you as alligned with JJ later to give the impression I was still misguided astown so they would think me less likely cop( in my mind!)
Did you align Toad with JJ to cover yourself? And did you vote Toad to make him remove his vote on Cal?
On 10/2/2017 at 7:12 AM, PodRacer said:So on page 7 I asked toad quite firmly why we should vote for his current top suspect cal, to which he replies 'dunno lets look at these 3 town instead'
Im thinking Toad and Cal in cahoots definately, each of their interactions dont sit comfortably with me. And under pressure suddenly Toad decides not to Bus his scum mate for now, switching to a new plan instead (maybe always the plan)
Pod, explain why you wrote this knowing that Cal was vanilla.