If you could choose the best 134 pts for a duel against your enemy... (the commander doesn't count in this operation):

Empire:

Jendon

Maarek

Mithel

Valen

Ciena

3 Defenders

134pts..

Drop Defenders.

Add Howl, Dengar, Saber.

It does depend on the rest of the fleet. If you're pushing squadrons with flotillas, the alpha strike is less important, but the value of survivability goes way up.

If you're pushing with an FC/EHB Quasar Fire (like you should in an all-out squadron duel), though, just take every TIE Fighter/Interceptor unique and three vanilla Interceptors for 133 points.

Howlrunner
Mauler Mithel
Valen Rudor
Black Squadron
Soontir Fel
Ciena Ree
Saber Squadron
TIE Interceptor
TIE Interceptor
TIE Interceptor

In my opinion this is the absolute most devastating anti-squadron force available in the game right now. All of my Vassal opponents ( @moodswing5537 , @Matt Antilles , and @DoubleDown217 ) can attest to just how vicious this alpha strike is. Whether it results in a good fleet is an open question, but as far as anti-squadron goes, it's tough to match.

8 YV666s and a jumpmaster

Edit. This should defo be a thing

For a mixed imp Force

Boba
Marek
Jendon
valen
mithel
Saber
3 tie bombers

With flight controllers Bcc Chiraneau and Sloane

Biggs, Jan, and 7 YT-1300s

This is my rebel off-the-cuff answer:

1 Green Squadron ( 12 points)
1 Jan Ors ( 19 points)
1 Wedge Antilles ( 19 points)
1 "Dutch" Vander ( 16 points)
1 Biggs Darklighter ( 19 points)
1 YT-1300 ( 13 points)
1 Dash Rendar ( 24 points)
1 Gold Squadron ( 12 points)

6 minutes ago, Church14 said:

Biggs, Jan, and 7 YT-1300s

fail...that's only 129....

Jan

3x Xwings

Dengar

Howlrunner

5x TIE Fighters

Outside the box. I like it!

4 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Jan

3x Xwings

Dengar

Howlrunner

5x TIE Fighters

> Imperial swarm amplifiers
> Not including Blount

2 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

> Imperial swarm amplifiers
> Not including Blount

As you were typing that, I was typing:

Jan

Blount

z-95 X 9

Howl

Dengar

26 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

It does depend on the rest of the fleet. If you're pushing squadrons with flotillas, the alpha strike is less important, but the value of survivability goes way up.

If you're pushing with an FC/EHB Quasar Fire (like you should in an all-out squadron duel), though, just take every TIE Fighter/Interceptor unique and three vanilla Interceptors for 133 points.

Howlrunner
Mauler Mithel
Valen Rudor
Black Squadron
Soontir Fel
Ciena Ree
Saber Squadron
TIE Interceptor
TIE Interceptor
TIE Interceptor

In my opinion this is the absolute most devastating anti-squadron force available in the game right now. All of my Vassal opponents ( @moodswing5537 , @Matt Antilles , and @DoubleDown217 ) can attest to just how vicious this alpha strike is. Whether it results in a good fleet is an open question, but as far as anti-squadron goes, it's tough to match.

I'll concur. And with Sloane, it's even worse once they finish the nasty business of decimating your squads into scraps.......

(oh, and I'm SO stealing this....lol)

1 minute ago, moodswing5537 said:

As you were typing that, I was typing:

Jan

Blount

z-95 X 9

Howl

Dengar

Once upon a time in W2 I recall some people hypothesizing about foregoing escorts and just jamming in so many squadrons that there was no physical room for fighters to reach your intel.

With the advent of Z95s, that might actually be a thing.

8 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Once upon a time in W2 I recall some people hypothesizing about foregoing escorts and just jamming in so many squadrons that there was no physical room for fighters to reach your intel.

With the advent of Z95s, that might actually be a thing.

Problem is any squad farts in their general direction and a Z95 explodes, letting you place a squad in its place.

i really tried.

30 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

It does depend on the rest of the fleet. If you're pushing squadrons with flotillas, the alpha strike is less important, but the value of survivability goes way up.

If you're pushing with an FC/EHB Quasar Fire (like you should in an all-out squadron duel), though, just take every TIE Fighter/Interceptor unique and three vanilla Interceptors for 133 points.

Howlrunner
Mauler Mithel
Valen Rudor
Black Squadron
Soontir Fel
Ciena Ree
Saber Squadron
TIE Interceptor
TIE Interceptor
TIE Interceptor

In my opinion this is the absolute most devastating anti-squadron force available in the game right now. All of my Vassal opponents ( @moodswing5537 , @Matt Antilles , and @DoubleDown217 ) can attest to just how vicious this alpha strike is. Whether it results in a good fleet is an open question, but as far as anti-squadron goes, it's tough to match.

It is very fleet dependent, as my current squadron-heavy force is 2xDecimator, Morna Kee, Col Jendon, Valen Rudor, 2xTIE Bomber and Gamma Squadron that relies on Squall alpha strike followed by Ruthless Strategists+Kallus AS shot. I guess one bomber can be swapped for TIE Interceptor to increase AS component.

53 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Howlrunner
Mauler Mithel
Valen Rudor
Black Squadron
Soontir Fel
Ciena Ree
Saber Squadron
TIE Interceptor
TIE Interceptor
TIE Interceptor

I ran a very similar squad list for the last Vassal tournament before the Rhymer nerf. It wasn't a good list but with Sloane, Rhymer, and Avenger it was alright.

This is my favorite squad composition:

Jan
Biggs
Gold
Norra
2 X-Wing
2 E-Wing
Y-Wing

Push it with FC GH, Toryn+BCC, with Dodonna. Hard list to alpha strike. I have counters to Intel, Counter, and Jendon with the E-Wings+FC. Or if I run against no squads I have 8 bombers that work with BCC, Norra, and Dodonna.

I'm currently trying to get an Imp bomber wing going.

So far I've got these clowns recruited:

Zertik Strom TIE Advanced Squadron (15)

Tempest Squadron TIE Advanced Squadron (13)

Gamma Squadron TIE Bomber Squadron (10)

TIE Bomber Squadron (9)

TIE Bomber Squadron (9)

TIE Bomber Squadron (9)

Colonel Jendon Lambda-class Shuttle (20)

Maarek Stele TIE Defender Squadron (21)

Lambda-classShuttle (15)

JumpMaster 5000 (12)

(It is 133 right now.)

4 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

I'm currently trying to get an Imp bomber wing going.

So far I've got these clowns recruited:

Zertik Strom TIE Advanced Squadron (15)

Tempest Squadron TIE Advanced Squadron (13)

Gamma Squadron TIE Bomber Squadron (10)

TIE Bomber Squadron (9)

TIE Bomber Squadron (9)

TIE Bomber Squadron (9)

Colonel Jendon Lambda-class Shuttle (20)

Maarek Stele TIE Defender Squadron (21)

Lambda-classShuttle (15)

JumpMaster 5000 (12)

(It is 133 right now.)

just play the 22pt version of Maarek instead. For the extra point, he gets a bow tie. REALLY classes up the joint.

But, I really dig this load out.

7x B-Wing Squadron (98)

1x Dagger Squadron (15)

1x Ten Numb (19)

This squad mix wins because Bees are Best.

2 minutes ago, comatose said:

7x B-Wing Squadron (98)

1x Dagger Squadron (15)

1x Ten Numb (19)

This squad mix wins because Bees are Best.

Aka "the sitting ducks, waiting to die"

1 hour ago, moodswing5537 said:

This is my rebel off-the-cuff answer:

1 Green Squadron ( 12 points)
1 Jan Ors ( 19 points)
1 Wedge Antilles ( 19 points)
1 "Dutch" Vander ( 16 points)
1 Biggs Darklighter ( 19 points)
1 YT-1300 ( 13 points)
1 Dash Rendar ( 24 points)
1 Gold Squadron ( 12 points)

with some more thought, I kinda like this better:

1 Jan Ors ( 19 points)
1 Biggs Darklighter ( 19 points)
1 Dash Rendar ( 24 points)
1 Gold Squadron ( 12 points)
1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
2 X-Wing Squadrons ( 26 points)
1 Lancer-class Pursuit Craft ( 15 points)

Gives more rogue "chase down enemy ship" capability. Plus it sticks closer to my "Black and blue bomber dice are better" mentality.

That being said, the only reason holding me back from using my absolute favorite bomber, Keyan, is that speed 2 is so hard to overcome without a FCT ship support mechanic IMHO.

Fleet 1500 (130/400)
===================
Raider I-class Corvette (44 + 14)
+ Agent Kallus (3)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Flechette Torpedoes (3)
+ Impetuous (4)
Raider I-class Corvette (44 + 11)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Flechette Torpedoes (3)
+ Instigator (4)
Ciena Ree (17)

OR

Fleet 1500 (132/400)
===================
Raider I-class Corvette (44 + 7)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Flechette Torpedoes (3)
Raider I-class Corvette (44 + 7)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Flechette Torpedoes (3)
Ciena Ree (17)
Valen Rudor (13)

Not sure

In all honesty, my double duty screen that usually wipes screens and can hurt ships is:

Dutch

Luke

Wedge

Biggs

Ten Nunb

Norra

Dagger

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