TIE Sentinel, likeliehood and potential?
3 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:
Dood, Double Ion Turrets! 27 points for ionizing a Decimator or Ghost off the board? I’m a for that! Bye bye Nym/Miranda, see you off to the board edge too! Double edge ioning everything in sight for 29 points? Yas yas yas!
oh, and GUNBOAT! SLAM, JAM, TRACTOR, BAM!??? pew pew!
2 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:
Dood, Double Ion Turrets! 27 points for ionizing a Decimator or Ghost off the board? I’m a for that! Bye bye Nym/Miranda, see you off to the board edge too! Double edge ioning everything in sight for 29 points? Yas yas yas!
oh, and GUNBOAT! SLAM, JAM, TRACTOR, BAM!??? pew pew!
Glad you like it. This would give the Aggressor a unique niche, one it sorely lacks. It would also fit the "specialist" feel its going for, without becoming overpowered. It is still quite fragile, and will depend on an expensive ept like Expertise for modifications. Stress, and ions would hurt it, as well as bombs, but it would be a force to reckoned with.
2 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:Glad you like it. This would give the Aggressor a unique niche, one it sorely lacks. It would also fit the "specialist" feel its going for, without becoming overpowered. It is still quite fragile, and will depend on an expensive ept like Expertise for modifications. Stress, and ions would hurt it, as well as bombs, but it would be a force to reckoned with.
You, uh, realize this automatically becomes twin autoblaster turrets, right?
11 hours ago, GrimmyV said:Not like that princess, TIE Interceptor. Look, I’m exactly the same as TIE Fighter but my wings are pointy! And have pew pew guns on them! Wee!
Having gun knives for wings isn't princess! It's super metal!
Edited by DarthEnderXOn 9/20/2017 at 2:14 AM, Hannes Solo said:As a title for the Agressor
Great idea:
Title: *Unique* TIE Sentinel
At the end of the combat phase you may perform an attack with an equipped turret. (Same as current Ghost/Phantom mechanic) make it unique so only one ship gets it or put an absurd price of 8 on the title and make it non-unique
16 minutes ago, GILLIES291 said:Great idea:
Title: *Unique* TIE Sentinel
At the end of the combat phase you may perform an attack with an equipped turret. (Same as current Ghost/Phantom mechanic) make it unique so only one ship gets it or put an absurd price of 8 on the title and make it non-unique
Do not make it unique but restrict it to 'inside Arc'.
On 24.09.2017 at 7:29 AM, Kingsguard said:Well there's a reason fighter jets have fixed guns and attack helicopters have rotating ones. Probably...
Aerodynamic reasons mostly, and for most of the time fighters have been around, it was also a question of accuracy. 3D-aiming gets a lot harder if you have to do it against your own movement direction and without computer Support. There's a reason there aren't a lot of aces in a bomber's gunner seat.
The Star Wars setting mitigates quite a lot of these problems, or rather admits handwaving. We've seen forward facing cannons swivel far back as ANH, so following up on that with "the First Order made that better" is well within the realm of possibility.
Perfect... just what people are crying out for.. more turrets!!!
Oh God, as much as I want this game to be alive in 5 more years, I hope this particular ship doesn't make it.
Not only because of the ungainly looks, the non-existent relevance in the lore (even in Legends it's only a painting), but because it doesn't add anything new to this game.
Dang, here is a quick custom card (because I'm really addicted to this):
20 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:
Nice!
13 hours ago, Reiver said:You, uh, realize this automatically becomes twin autoblaster turrets, right?
I guess you could add the caveat 2 different turrets. . .
In any event, I think this would be a great "fluff" ship that could show up in a campaign box. Not really needed for the tournament scene, but a nice "free-bee" to keep with the miniature-mandatory release idea.
On 25.09.2017 at 9:45 AM, william1134 said:Perfect... just what people are crying out for.. more turrets!!!
Imperial turrets- the place to put your 360 if you absolutely need to find a place to put it down.
(seriously, as if the Aggressor would ever be the thing to kill X-Wing).
Edited by DampfGecko19 hours ago, DampfGecko said:Aerodynamic reasons mostly, and for most of the time fighters have been around, it was also a question of accuracy. 3D-aiming gets a lot harder if you have to do it against your own movement direction and without computer Support. There's a reason there aren't a lot of aces in a bomber's gunner seat.
The Star Wars setting mitigates quite a lot of these problems, or rather admits handwaving. We've seen forward facing cannons swivel far back as ANH, so following up on that with "the First Order made that better" is well within the realm of possibility.
Still you have a ship agile enough to get somebody into range of it's fixed guns giving that up for the extra weight and cost of a turret and gunner, extra life support and power generators. It's a heavy price for no real gain. And the Empire never was fond of heavy prices where it's pilots were concerned.
3 hours ago, Kingsguard said:Still you have a ship agile enough to get somebody into range of it's fixed guns giving that up for the extra weight and cost of a turret and gunner, extra life support and power generators. It's a heavy price for no real gain. And the Empire never was fond of heavy prices where it's pilots were concerned.
True- that's why I imagined it being a first order ship, technology substituting for manpower. Compare, if you will, experiments like the "schräge Musik" atop German light bombers (i.e. Ju88) refitted as night fighters. Specialist craft always find use in warfare, they are only built if the need arises.
That is the kind of role I envision the Sentinel to fill. Hunting bombers and other heavy craft. And to be honest, that is what the Imperials could really need right now.
1 minute ago, DampfGecko said:True- that's why I imagined it being a first order ship, technology substituting for manpower. Compare, if you will, experiments like the "schräge Musik" atop German light bombers (i.e. Ju88) refitted as night fighters. Specialist craft always find use in warfare, they are only built if the need arises.
That is the kind of role I envision the Sentinel to fill. Hunting bombers and other heavy craft. And to be honest, that is what the Imperials could really need right now.
Wouldn't a bomber killer want some heavy fixed guns though? Rather than coverage?
2 minutes ago, Kingsguard said:Wouldn't a bomber killer want some heavy fixed guns though? Rather than coverage?
Why not heavy guns that swivel?
Just now, DampfGecko said:Why not heavy guns that swivel?
Seems to me a swivel big enough to mount heavy guns would require a larger ship.
10 minutes ago, Kingsguard said:Seems to me a swivel big enough to mount heavy guns would require a larger ship.
Like a YT-2400, yes. On the other hand- technological Progress can step in for size. I know I keep coming back to it, but that really is the crux of the issue- this explanation only works as a First Order ship.
47 minutes ago, DampfGecko said:Like a YT-2400, yes. On the other hand- technological Progress can step in for size. I know I keep coming back to it, but that really is the crux of the issue- this explanation only works as a First Order ship.
The Decimator has the same number of turrets as the Sentinel and those guns aren’t super rediculous like Dash’s ride. The 2400 has guns so big that they can’t even elevate, they are only good for shooting in a plane, leaving some really obvious approach vectors for attacking the ship.
rear turrets on slow ships make sense to keep bogies off their six. Turrets pointing ‘down’from the nose make sense on Bombers/ground assault ships. You would expect to see both on a ship the size of a K-wing or larger, but not something the size of Vader’s low rider TIE.
5 hours ago, Kingsguard said:Wouldn't a bomber killer want some heavy fixed guns though? Rather than coverage?
You would think that if you didn't know that the bombers they are hunting are super nimble barrel rolling crafts like the Scurrrrgh or Fast Slammingaway ships like the K-Wing.
13 hours ago, Hannes Solo said:You would think that if you didn't know that the bombers they are hunting are super nimble barrel rolling crafts like the Scurrrrgh or Fast Slammingaway ships like the K-Wing.
Which would cause one to desire a fixed gun large enough to cripple them, mounted on a ship nimble enough to catch them?
5 hours ago, Kingsguard said:Which would cause one to desire a fixed gun large enough to cripple them, mounted on a ship nimble enough to catch them?
You would also need a lot of pilots with ps 11