Hi all,

It´ s all speculative, as we´ re not 100% sure about the EPT in the TIE silencer, but it is definitely an Action: EPT, so maybe Youngster is finally going to shine in a TIE swarm, or even as support for TIE SFs (¨ his¨ ability triggers off LNs, FOs and SFs). All your TIEs getting multuple evades could be nasty, especially with a swarm leader around...

So that Silencer is coming with another 60 quid box stuck to the side, the Gozanti, for me. I think that Imps may finally get the unique edge they´ ve been looking for!

Juke Comms SFs? That's about the only thing that seems interesting with it. I think Youngster is still going to be stuck with his favorite EPT, Crackshot, for the foreseeable future.

Youngster and crack shot don't work well together, as it's not an action ept

8 minutes ago, JediRush24 said:

Youngster and crack shot don't work well together, as it's not an action ept

Youngster is a generic pilot with an ept, nothing more, and generic TIES like Crackshot.

14 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

Youngster is a generic pilot with an ept, nothing more, and generic TIES like Crackshot.

A generic pilot with an EPT... Except for the whole bit of his pilot ability of course.

Youngster-Expose and Hux and Crackshot TIEs are not a bad option

52 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

Youngster is a generic pilot with an ept, nothing more, and generic TIES like Crackshot.

lol

I agree that there's potential, unfortunately as it was pointed out, Crack Shot is usually the smarter choice..

I assume Youngster's ability isn't compatible with Strikers?

4 minutes ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

I agree that there's potential, unfortunately as it was pointed out, Crack Shot is usually the smarter choice..

I assume Youngster's ability isn't compatible with Strikers?

Correct. TIE Fighters, TIE/fo Fighters, and TIE/sf Fighters are the only compatible ships at the moment.

The new EPT will probably bet 'get a bunch of evade tokens', so probably pretty bad for any but the /sfs, and probably not reliable enough for Juke, even f that was a good combo.

22 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Correct. TIE Fighters, TIE/fo Fighters, and TIE/sf Fighters are the only compatible ships at the moment.

The new EPT will probably bet 'get a bunch of evade tokens', so probably pretty bad for any but the /sfs, and probably not reliable enough for Juke, even f that was a good combo.

That kills my idea for Expert Handling and Strikers...

Yeah, there is definitely a desire to revive Swarms boiling up, myself I included. I've started experimenting with Strikers and Ties. The problem ,of course, being you can lose a ship a round, if you're lucky to not lose two.

Something has to give..

What is all this about crackshot? Youngster lets you pass his action EPT ability to all TIEs, FOs and SFs at range three. He really wants an action EPT to play off his ability, otherwise just go Black Squadron....

http://xwing-miniatures.wikia.com/wiki/"Youngster"

If this is an action that can net your TIEs two evade tokens in the right place (at range one of two obstacles?), it has to be worth it for academy TIEs supporting a Swarm Leader, they can support the hit and keep the other evade token for defense. It could be nasty... The EPT can´ t be more than 3pts, can it? Which would make him 18 points to be able to pass around a lot of evades while being able to tank a tiny bit himself....

1 hour ago, Dr Zoidberg said:

A generic pilot with an EPT... Except for the whole bit of his pilot ability of course.

His pilot ability to share terrible epts with ships that don't want them? No, he's just a cheap generic with an ept.

1 hour ago, IG88E said:

Youngster-Expose and Hux and Crackshot TIEs are not a bad option

Expose is always a bad option.

Youngster with Rage can fit in an 8 TIE swarm. He is far from useless.

7 hours ago, Larky Bobble said:

What is all this about crackshot? Youngster lets you pass his action EPT ability to all TIEs, FOs and SFs at range three. He really wants an action EPT to play off his ability, otherwise just go Black Squadron....

http://xwing-miniatures.wikia.com/wiki/"Youngster"

If this is an action that can net your TIEs two evade tokens in the right place (at range one of two obstacles?), it has to be worth it for academy TIEs supporting a Swarm Leader, they can support the hit and keep the other evade token for defense. It could be nasty... The EPT can´ t be more than 3pts, can it? Which would make him 18 points to be able to pass around a lot of evades while being able to tank a tiny bit himself....

The point being made is that there aren't any good Action EPTs for Youngster to share around, so he's best just used as a normal Black Squadron Pilot with a higher PS.

The trouble with this is that Swarms don't need survivability. They need punch. If they're spending their actions getting evades they're not spending them doing damage and that's what they need more than anything.

12 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

No, he's just a cheap generic with an ept.

If only we had generic PS6 TIE Fighters with an Elite Talent slot

But... TIE Fighters already have an Evade action.

:-/

47 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:

But... TIE Fighters already have an Evade action.

:-/

Could you imagine if the Debris Hugger EPT allowed you to get any combination of focus/evade tokens for each obstacle up to range 1?

10 minutes ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

Could you imagine if the Debris Hugger EPT allowed you to get any combination of focus/evade tokens for each obstacle up to range 1?

That doesn't fit on the card given what of it is visible.

12 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:

That doesn't fit on the card given what of it is visible.

Imagine.

2 hours ago, Sasajak said:

If only we had generic PS6 TIE Fighters with an Elite Talent slot

Yeah, unfortunately the ps6 generic is unique. Guess we'll just have to stick with Blacks if we want to run a bunch of them.

If we were still back in the days before the change to evade tokens, when you could spend multiple on the same attack, that'd probably be pretty killer with some TIE/Sf's. Now, I dunno.

1 hour ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

Imagine.

16 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

His pilot ability to share terrible epts with ships that don't want them? No, he's just a cheap generic with an ept.

Expose is always a bad option.

Expose on a Swarm Leader Omega Ace, assuming you're feeding focus from somewhere (you're imps, this isn't hard). It's possible to create situations where Expose's action is valid, you just need to already have mods from somewhere else. Or need the extra die, since it increases your max damage (which focus and TL cannot).

There is no reason to ever run Youngster with a non-action EPT. It's a waste of the points, just run Black Squadron, or a unique with a relevant ability.

As has been pointed out Rage is a valid option for swarms (more dice mods than Howlrunner gives, and a bigger bubble, at the cost of stress). The new EPT is a toss up depending on how much it can give. Swarm Leader may be nice with that, or Juke, or just being able to turtle up harder against multiple incoming attacks.

16 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

His pilot ability to share terrible epts with ships that don't want them? No, he's just a cheap generic with an ept.

Expose is always a bad option.

Not sure if troll or doesn't understand the possibilities...

24 minutes ago, Archangelspiv said:

Not sure if troll or doesn't understand the possibilities...

Probably just repeating the mantra. Pretty sure Expose with EI on Decimator is valid, if you are willing to give up boosting.