When I got into X wing, one of the first expansions I bought was the HWK 290. In the old universe when the Moldy Crow was destroyed they replaced it with the sleeker, upgraded Ravens Claw. I would love for the HWK to be viable again, but I don't see that happening.

This could be an updated HWK with a better dial, maybe a system and tech slot along side a single crew and turret. I would like at least 1 more red die, and maybe a free title. Since it would be similar to the HWK, maybe it could be "at the start of each combat phase, if you are not stressed you may preform a free focus action."

What do you all think? Is this possible or am I a hopeless dreamer playing too much jedi outcast?

I like it, but the HWK should have 0 red dice, or better yet, an energy value! And the Moldy Crow should be the only way to get a turret on it. But this ship is super cool, and I would keep the focus stack.

A guy in my area bought a Raven's Claw model off of shapeways and painted it and he would use it in place of the HWK model. It looked pretty sweet!

Why should the HWK not be viable anymore?

5 minutes ago, Hannes Solo said:

Why should the HWK not be viable anymore?

what so you mean?

HWK is very much viable. Death Rey (Rey+Jan) and Palobtanni (Palob, Fenn, Asajj) are both pretty high tier, and there's plenty of other stuff you can do with them if you get creative.

Palob with Blaster Turret is hilarious, like Guri with an Advance Torpedo and Deadeye. The other player can only blame themselves.

18 minutes ago, Elavion said:

HWK is very much viable. Death Rey (Rey+Jan) and Palobtanni (Palob, Fenn, Asajj) are both pretty high tier, and there's plenty of other stuff you can do with them if you get creative.

What I mean it is a pretty versatile supporter and you can strap a (twin laser) turret on its back nothing wrong with that.

I still believe the best way to fix it is to offer an alternate Mouldy Crow title card:

Mouldy Crow (-3): You must upgrade your ship with the Accuracy Corrector system upgrade.

I'd love the Raven's Claw in game. It fits an archetype I've been wantin for awhile, a high speed support ship. Something that can keep up with the likes of A-Wings and give range sensitive buffs.

I actually did a mock up of it's stats on this forum awhile back and got some good input and discussion on the subject.

24 minutes ago, Elavion said:

HWK is very much viable. Death Rey (Rey+Jan) and Palobtanni (Palob, Fenn, Asajj) are both pretty high tier, and there's plenty of other stuff you can do with them if you get creative.

I totally agree that it can be viable, my only issue is that the HWK gets expensive quick for a support ship. I would just want more to show for the point coat

2 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

I'd love the Raven's Claw in game. It fits an archetype I've been wantin for awhile, a high speed support ship. Something that can keep up with the likes of A-Wings and give range sensitive buffs.

I actually did a mock up of it's stats on this forum awhile back and got some good input and discussion on the subject.

Link?

The HWK is no TIE shuttle or lambda, but the generic can be effecient with dorsal or synced with the right crew.

Well, the other thing is, the Raven's Claw isn't a HWK-290. In fact it was never given an actual designation(although it could be the same manufacture, but a newer model in the line, lets say the HWK-920 )

You are not alone.

I want that badly.

But as its own ship without ANY design relationship to the current Hwk-290 in game.

The existing dial for the hwk is insanely stupid for a ship that has engines on its wings specifically designed to facilitate hard turns.

7 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

You are not alone.

I want that badly.

But as its own ship without ANY design relationship to the current Hwk-290 in game.

The existing dial for the hwk is insanely stupid for a ship that has engines on its wings specifically designed to facilitate hard turns.

I would settle for a complete ship work over, but keep jan and Kyle rebel pilots and Palob scum pilot

I don't remember the HWK being all that impressive in firepower or speed or maneuverability but I never got too far in either dark forces game

15 minutes ago, Browncoat50 said:

Link?

After some of the conversation and some additional personal experience, this is what I've fixed on for stats:

2 att, 2 agi, 3 hull, 2 shi

Actions: Focus, TL, Boost (still wanna give it evade, but not sure)

Basic Slots: Crew, Torp, Systems

Dial: Modified Defender (no white 4k, red 1 banks, green 3 banks, red 3 t-rolls)

Potient support abilities for pilots/crew/title/etc: more token retention, crew sharing (probably limited to a certain point limit or non-unique), and the defensive version of Farlander's ability.

15 minutes ago, MandoBard said:

Well, the other thing is, the Raven's Claw isn't a HWK-290. In fact it was never given an actual designation(although it could be the same manufacture, but a newer model in the line, lets say the HWK-920 )

Slap an "X" at the end of that model number. This baby looks like a racer.

11 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

I don't remember the HWK being all that impressive in firepower or speed or maneuverability but I never got too far in either dark forces game

In Dark Forces 2, the Moldy Crow takes out a TIE Bomber in short order, then holds off TIEs as Kyle does regular mission stuff.

The speed and maneuverability are more referenced in other sources like RPG books, though it does stands to reason that mercenaries/Rebel operatives like Kyle and Jan, who regularly have to get out some pretty hairy situations, wouldn't be using the space equivalent to a mini-van.

Would be sweet!

19 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

In Dark Forces 2, the Moldy Crow takes out a TIE Bomber in short order, then holds off TIEs as Kyle does regular mission stuff.

The speed and maneuverability are more referenced in other sources like RPG books, though it does stands to reason that mercenaries/Rebel operatives like Kyle and Jan, who regularly have to get out some pretty hairy situations, wouldn't be using the space equivalent to a mini-van.

Thta Raven's Claw would make an excellent ship for X-Wing. I think the HWK is better than it gets credit for, but it is purely a support ship that requires the right unique pilot in the right build (which is how I think a support ship should work).

Just now, GrimmyV said:

The HWK could use that jamming technology.

3 hours ago, SabineKey said:

The HWK could use that jamming technology.

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On a somewhat serious note, since the ravens claw does not have a turret in its design, maybe this one could have cannons instead. Also, maybe a dial like a K fighter but with t rolls? Make it a support ship that sprints and jousts