8 hours ago, Darth evil said:

i feel you, here in Canada our Nationals in 2015 and 2016 where at a convention and it really pushed people away, it would seem in the US people like tournaments at big Cons but up here ppl tended to have the opposite reaction, we didn't like paying inflated prices to attend something we weren't really taking advantage of, i hope your situation gets handled properly, you should not be punished because there are other games to accomadate.

I can not speak for all of us here in the US, but I have never gone to a Convention at all let a lone a big one, and personally think it is overall bad doing so, but it may just be me.

8 hours ago, codegnave said:

I will say, from a US perspective, the talk of just taking a day off is out of sync with reality regarding part time workers. If you work on an hourly basis your schedule is often made weeks in advance and requests for specific times off is more or less laughed at(unless you have children and the manager likes you).

I am right there with you, working three part time jobs, with no vacation time to use, I can ask for time off (with out pay) but this has to be done just a couple of weeks before so even if I wanted to (or could afford to) go to something like GenCon I could not as by the time I would know if I could go everything is sold out. As I said above I am not a fan of this, but I also do not have extreme feelings about it when you get to the larger tournaments. It is much more irritating when your local store champ is someone who has never been there before as they live a couple hundred miles away (this year ours was from about 250 miles away). Our local store set the time so that none of the local players could show up, and ended up with only two out of town players.

If your going to a national event, i pretty sure you can take a day or two of vacation to attend

"At GenCon 2016, there were almost 50 players in day two alone"

Which is my point. Day one was on Thursday, day two was on Friday. Neither were on the weekend.

I would like to figure out things.

Where is the point to sell 25€ tickets based on paying the travel prize, only guaranteed if there are at least 50 players if they offer just 32?

They know there won't be 50 players. They prevented that.

Help me make sense of that please!

That one isnt unique to Spain unfortunately. Its a tad ridiculous

On 9/15/2017 at 6:15 PM, mobow213 said:

If your going to a national event, i pretty sure you can take a day or two of vacation to attend

Only if you get vacation time, if you do not like some of us than you do not have any to take.

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

That one isnt unique to Spain unfortunately. Its a tad ridiculous

Is that even legal?

I have to say that the German nationals were way better this year than it was last year (from organization). And we had 50% more player this year as well (a good sign for the health of the game).

It were not the persons, who do the organisation. These were the same as last year. It was the general communication before and during the event. They were sending mails, giving infos, keep the player up to date. It was really well done.
I just need some work and time for an organized play to become better (and maybe a little lead ).

If there is maybe a new organizer for the Spain organized play, give them a bit time. Yes, it is frustrating if there is nothing happening. And it is the full right and the best way to make this public. If no one is saying anything, nothing will change. The FFG forum is maybe a good place to make it public, but not the best to make a change. For this the direct contact with FFG is need.
I have no idea who is doing the organized play in Spain. But i guess, like in all Euro countries, it was changed with the transfer of the OP to Asmodee. I heard the nationals in Italy were delayed, because of this publisher change/cleanup. Maybe this would be the best for Spain as well, untill all is solved. But again, this is not in our hands.

On 9/15/2017 at 6:44 AM, kmanweiss said:

So who should they throw under the bus? They have 4 days, 4 games. Undoubtedly, there are quite a few people that play multiple games. If you held all the tournaments on the same day across different locations, you'd hurt the turnout to all of the games. Do you stick IA during the week and have that fan base get upset?

If this was a Armada only event and they stuck it on a Wednesday, you'd have a point.

As for US nationals. If I want to partake at either of the events, I need to travel over 1300 miles. Spain is only 630 miles wide. If I wanted to participate or attend I'd need to take off far more work time and spend way more money than someone like yourself to hit a mid week tournament.

I'm not trying to dismiss you, your complaints, or your opinions on the issue, just trying to put them into perspective. There are other factors at play that you just aren't considering.

As for what you see, that's pretty anecdotal. If you have some actual numbers for sales or players to call upon for Armada, X-wing, Destiny, IA, or the LCG, I'd love to see them. It would make a compelling argument. The human brain has some pretty big issues with confirmation bias though. You don't see X-wing, because you don't participate in X-wing. You see lots of Armada, because you play armada. I go to armada events and see a TON of people playing armada. I don't go to X-wing events so I don't see anyone playing it. My friends that do the same thing confirm my observations. No one plays x-wing ever!

Dude, they scheduled a national championship for one of their premier games on a seemingly random Tuesday. Tuesday. This isn't "first day of a common 4 day holiday weekend" scheduling. The nearest Spanish holiday is Valencia Community Day the week after.

On 9/15/2017 at 4:42 AM, xerpo said:

It sucks, I know. Look at it this way. Beyond first of October on, you might have the chance to assist to the own Cataluña national tournament. (people in UK will probably relate this joke to Scotland).

Hm, if FFG recognizes Catalonia, Spain may send the police into the tournament to shut it down.

lol

7 hours ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

Hm, if FFG recognizes Catalonia, Spain may send the police into the tournament to shut it down.

Actually, what could do FFG about playing Riekaan pre-nerf version in that national? Or shooting three times per round after movement? It is not like they care about laws so what about a FAQ or the RRG?

11 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Actually, what could do FFG about playing Riekaan pre-nerf version in that national? Or shooting three times per round after movement? It is not like they care about laws so what about a FAQ or the RRG?

The ability to rule a country is insignificant next to the power of the RRG.

On 9/30/2017 at 0:37 AM, ovinomanc3r said:

Actually, what could do FFG about playing Riekaan pre-nerf version in that national? Or shooting three times per round after movement? It is not like they care about laws so what about a FAQ or the RRG?

See, that's what I always tell my Rebel opponents. The law says that the Emperor rules the galaxy. Them even fighting me on the tabletop is against the rules.

Of course, the Rebels are more like the ETA than the Catalans.

According to my contact - who placed 4th - the event had 25 players

On 30/9/2017 at 1:54 AM, Mikael Hasselstein said:

Hm, if FFG recognizes Catalonia, Spain may send the police into the tournament to shut it down.

Perhaps Spain should do like Lincoln and the Union when the CSA declared independence, let them go quietly to make a slave nation... ah, no, I remember now, they sent an army and there were a war with millions of dead to keep only the Union together...

1 minute ago, Lannes said:

Perhaps Spain should do like Lincoln and the Union when the CSA declared independence, let them go quietly to make a slave nation... ah, no, I remember now, they sent an army and there were a war with millions of dead to keep only the Union together...

Speaking of this: whatever happened that made Catalonia want to secede, why does the current gov. say it's illegal (aside from the pessimistic answer of greedy corruption), why are many people against it, and did they succeed?

8 hours ago, Mikael Hasselstein said:

Of course, the Rebels are more like the ETA than the Catalans.

I would rather say that Rebels are like Al-Qaeda, pulling down big buildings...

8 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Speaking of this: whatever happened that made Catalonia want to secede, why does the current gov. say it's illegal (aside from the pessimistic answer of greedy corruption), why are many people against it, and did they succeed?

Catalonian doesn't want to secede, only a minority of the people who lives there, a minority that has the power and propaganda like the nazis when they won the goverment in 1931 and 1933. An the goverment dosen't say its illegal, it's the Constitucional Court (like your supreme court) that says that and sent the police to enforce that law , like any democratic country that want to avoid tiranny.

And by the way , in Catalonia there have been 5 voting in tha last 6 years to elect from local goverments, to regional ( "enjoying" the largest autonomy in the world) and national representantives.

Well, 3 nationals near, Spain, Catslonia and France weeeee

2 hours ago, Green Knight said:

According to my contact - who placed 4th - the event had 25 players

23 players I think.

I was ninth tied at 21 points with another 5 players.

I will try to gather all the info I could and share it in a thread.

Yes ovinomanc3r, please!!!

gracias

2 hours ago, Sharego said:

Well, 3 nationals near, Spain, Catslonia and France weeeee

Sorry, only two nations, Spain and France.

Catslonia... whats that, a kind of ketchup?

2 hours ago, Sharego said:

Well, 3 nationals near, Spain, Alcalá Meco and France weeeee

FTFY

What about Andorra?

4 hours ago, Lannes said:

Catalonian doesn't want to secede, only a minority of the people who lives there, a minority that has the power and propaganda like the nazis when they won the goverment in 1931 and 1933. An the goverment dosen't say its illegal, it's the Constitucional Court (like your supreme court) that says that and sent the police to enforce that law , like any democratic country that want to avoid tiranny.

And by the way , in Catalonia there have been 5 voting in tha last 6 years to elect from local goverments, to regional ( "enjoying" the largest autonomy in the world) and national representantives.

Well, there are multiple views on that. Some might say that the right of national self-determination cannot be abrogated by a just constitution. In the final examination, I think 'Catalexit' is a mistake (even bigger than Brexit). But calling them nazis is WAAAY over the top, especially when it's the Spanish police (an arm of the government) handing out the beatings to prevent organized free speech and assembly.