I've been listening to the latest 186th podcast where my friend Dale talks about his top 4 finish in the French Nationals (well done again mate!) and his list sounds great, it's basically Vader, Kestrel and Quickdraw with VI and Cruise Missiles.
My question is this, is there a viable rebel alternative (3 ships, ps10/11, alpha strike)? I'm not sure there is to be honest but thought I'd ask the question 
I don't think there is. It doesn't fit the rebel playstyle at all.
This Miranda, Cracken, and Jan Ors alpha won a regional not so long ago..
Miranda Doni + Autoblaster Turret + Extra Munitions + C-3PO + Guidance Chips + Homing Missiles
Airen Cracken + Veteran Instincts + Guidance Chips + Homing Missiles
Jan Ors + Twin Laser Turret + Veteran Instincts + Nien Nunb
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Edited by Wedge NantillaisI would try (and fail) with something like this at 97pt:
Wedge Antilles (29)
Intensity(2), Proton Torpedoes (4), BB-8 (2), Guidance Chips (0)
Airen Cracken (19)
Veteran Instincts (1), Homing Missiles (5), Guidance Chips (0)
Wes Janson (29)
Veteran Instincts (1), Plasma Torpedoes (3), R3-A2 (2), Guidance Chips (0)
Wes strips tokens and stresses, Airen gives Wedge fully modded attack and Wedge deals the final blow. You can expect to roll 10-11 damage. Of course it depends on the target, but you'll blow one away or hit it hard. A bonus damage if you use Harpoons as soon as they arrive due to the crit by Wedge
You basically have to use A Wings, Y Wings and T65s to get 3 ships shooting, none of which have any long-term chops after the alpha, unlike Vader and QD. I doubt it's viable.
4 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:none of which have any long-term chops after the alpha, unlike Vader and QD. I doubt it's viable.
Exactly.
That's the main problem with ImpAlpha, and there you have amazing ships. Still not easy though.
RebelAlpha needs ships and pilots that are nowhere to be seen in the meta (who plays A-Wings?! Other-than-TLT Y-Wings? Other-than-Biggs X-Wings?)
OK it's not on topic caus it is not high ps. But did anyone try this.
Just now, Hannes Solo said:OK it's not on topic caus it is not high ps. But did anyone try this.
99Points• Lieutenant BlountZ-95 HeadhunterRock: XX-23 S-thread Tracers EPT: Elusiveness Mod: Shield Upgrade24P5XBandit Squadron Pilot #1Z-95 HeadhunterRock: Cruise Missiles Mod: Guidance Chips15 points
Blount is a lot more likely to survive with VI than Elusiveness.
1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:Blount is a lot more likely to survive with VI than Elusiveness.
Probably. I had the Idea that in a ps 10+ meta the difference between 6 and 8 doesn't matter that much. Would need testing.
Veteran Instincts is not enough for Blount in this kind of list.
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Edited by Wedge NantillaisNo, sort of... tycho can throw a good cruise missile especially backed by Jan, but most of the good high ps rebels use torps, so you need a way to get a focus action and a target lock whilst having vi, which basically means using Ashoka to,provide the free target lock... it's basically designing a whole list just to take one shot and then you're left with three mediocre ships.
Tycho/Wes/Jan is my best attempt so far. Wes strips defence, Tycho takes a six dice shot and Jan TLTs what's left.
I also designed a PS11 Han with cruise and PS11 Poe and plasmas but I think that's just silly 
37 minutes ago, Hannes Solo said:Probably. I had the Idea that in a ps 10+ meta the difference between 6 and 8 doesn't matter that much. Would need testing.
Dash and Miranda are still a bit part of the meta, getting up to 8 is still worthwhile.
51 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:Wes strips tokens and stresses, Airen gives Wedge fully modded attack and Wedge deals the final blow. You can expect to roll 10-11 damage. Of course it depends on the target, but you'll blow one away or hit it hard. A bonus damage if you use Harpoons as soon as they arrive due to the crit by Wedge
Yeah - I think Harpoons might be a nice option. But regardless, if you want three high PS 'attack' missiles, Airen Cracken is practically a given; as the cheapest PS8 missile carrier in the game, he's a good place to start.
I've seen a Wedge/Horton/Airen list do okay.
Not in the vein of what you are looking for.
What you will be looking for is a torpedo with the new design philosophy that gave us harpoons
So basically.....go Imperial!
Being a rebel only player that would be quite a shock to the system 
8 minutes ago, BCooper85 said:So basically.....go Imperial!
Being a rebel only player that would be quite a shock to the system
Rebels might well do better with low PS survivability.... Y or B wings running with Ashoka or .Blount to provide target locks and just weathering those first shots might actually be an easier strategy. Come to think if it, an advanced sensors B-wing isn't all that different from a Scurgg
Also, green squadron pilots with cruise missiles and crack shot. Tl on the approach, k turn then shoot
17 minutes ago, BCooper85 said:So basically.....go Imperial!
Being a rebel only player that would be quite a shock to the system
If you want to do a high PS alpha strike, yes.
Not all strategies are available to all factions.
42 minutes ago, BCooper85 said:So basically.....go Imperial!
Being a rebel only player that would be quite a shock to the system
Can't hurt to open your mind and widen your horizons - personally, I find that when I play things I usually don't play, it has two effects: It shows me new ways to approach the game (thus widening my options even when I go back to my favorite lists), and it shows me weaknesses in those lists that I might never see when I only play against them, because my opponents never make the silly mistakes with them that I inevitably make.
2 hours ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:This Miranda, Cracken, and Jan Ors alpha won a regional not so long ago..
Miranda Doni + Autoblaster Turret + Extra Munitions + C-3PO + Guidance Chips + Homing Missiles
Airen Cracken + Veteran Instincts + Guidance Chips + Homing Missiles
Jan Ors + Twin Laser Turret + Veteran Instincts + Nien Nunb
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This one won the Las Vegas Regionals back in February.
Horton Salm (25)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
R2 Astromech (1)
Miranda Doni (29)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Homing Missiles (5)
C-3PO (3)
Guidance Chips (0)
Airen Cracken (19)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Homing Missiles (5)
Guidance Chips (0)
Total: 100
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Edited by TerTerAiren Cracken PS10 (23)
VI, cruise missles, guidance chips
Hortan Salm PS10 (33)
VI, proton torpedos, guidance chips, extra munitions, R2D6
Nym (PS10)
VI, cruise missles, guidance chips, auto blaster turret, extra munitions, genious, advanced sensors
Edit:Forgot bombletgen
Edited by TBot3 minutes ago, TBot said:Airen Cracken PS10 (23)
VI, cruise missles, guidance chips
Hortan Salm PS10 (33)
VI, proton torpedos, guidance chips, extra munitions, R2D6
Nym (PS10)
VI, cruise missles, guidance chips, auto blaster turret, extra munitions, genious, advanced sensors
Why Horton? I ask because this is the second list posted here with him in it.
BECAUSE HORTON IS A HERO!
Roark Garnet (19)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Deadeye (1)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Swarm Tactics (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Deadeye (1)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Swarm Tactics (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Green Squadron Pilot (19)
Deadeye (1)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Swarm Tactics (2)
Guidance Chips (0)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)
Total: 100