1 hour ago, Jadotch said:

I thought his first fight was when Luke got knocked out by a Tusken Raider.

And that's still ignoring other things like being the commander of a fighter squadron.

3 minutes ago, doji said:

So if we get a rehash of rotj who wears the golden bikini

Finn

2 minutes ago, kris40k said:

Finn

Poe: wha-

Finn: Don't ask.

Do not want.

23 minutes ago, doji said:

So if we get a rehash of rotj who wears the golden bikini

CGI Carrie Fisher.

Well. I suppose it might still be good despite JJ. I get why people like his stuff, but personally I really don't.

I guess people's attitude about this has a lot to do with whether they liked TFA or not.

JJ Abrams had one shot at making a Star Wars movie. For those who didn't like the outcome I think it's fully understandable they aren't looking forward to another JJ Star Wars movie.

2 hours ago, Kieransi said:

In my opinion, Ant-Man was a step in the right direction, and, along with Dr. Strange, the only good Marvel movie since Thor.

Wife fell asleep during Dr Strange, as while it had a lot of good ideas, the endless confusing fight scenes bored her to...well, sleep. The two 'Guardians of the Galaxy' movies were decent, though. I assume , anyway, that Disney will continue doing with Star Wars what they are doing, now - and effectively echo the same split that the Marvel movies have. IE, every other year an 'episode' movie that continues the story of the main group of characters, with off years being standalone movies in the setting with a wide range of one-off characters we have not seen before nor will see again.

And that could work pretty well.

3 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

Yes.

Except for how hyperspace works...

Eh...to be fair, that shark has sort of already been jumped. I mean, Palpatine gets from Coruscant to edge-of-the-galaxy-Mustafar before Vader has time to progress from 'on fire' to 'dead from burns'.

1 hour ago, Kieransi said:

Forgot the timing of the unholy ton of Marvel movies. The first Captain America was good. The second was not.

And why do you think people on a Star Wars forum would like Guardians of the Galaxy? It's basically a weird superhero Star Wars ripoff with bad 80's music.

Also, the power delta in superhero movies really bugs me. That's why Spider Man and Daredevil are my favorite superhero comics - because some of the villains are actually normal guys. When characters are thousands of times more powerful than the average person, it's not fun. Darth Vader kind of borders the annoying level of power delta - if he were any more powerful, he wouldn't be fun because there's not even a chance of any army defeating him unless they themselves are psychotically powerful. So yeah, I don't want that aspect of the superhero genre to be brought to Star Wars. If all the heroes are super powerful, why do Stormtroopers exist? Can't a superhero kill a whole army of Stormtroopers? There's no such thing as a true "battle" in the superhero genre (it's always a skirmish between a few people), so thus superheroes can't fight Star Wars .

Ok, point taken. I mean, thinking Winter Soldier was bad certainly means our opinions on movies are nothing close to similar, but *shrug* whatever.

But what in the world makes you think that Disney will Avengers-ify (oh, Avengers! Another marvel movie post Thor that you think is bad) Star Wars just because they want to make more Star Wars movies? The Marvel formula hasn't been applied to any other Disney properties (except arguably Big Hero 6, ANOTHER amazing post Thor Marvel movie). Sure they are playing the sequel game, but every studio is doing that these days. Just look at Rogue One for crying out loud. Sure, people may have gripes with it, but in what universe is that the kind of world building that the MCU is engaged in?

Marvel movies are the way they are because they are like the medium that inspired the movies: large, complicated, interwoven mythological stories that culminate in giant crossover events. It just so happens that what would be done in a year of comic publishing takes over a decade to realize in cinema because of obvious reasons.

You don't like Marvel movies, I get it. But you're argument seems to be "if they make more Star Wars movies then they will become just like the Marvel movies." That's just....I don't know, an odd take. That's like me saying "I hate Disney animated musicals* so if they keep making Star Wars movies everyone will break into song and dance." It just doesn't really make a lot of sense.

*Of course I don't hate Disney musicals. I'm not a monster.

PS: People on a Star Wars forum have to hate Guardians? Lolwhut?

7 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Eh...to be fair, that shark has sort of already been jumped. I mean, Palpatine gets from Coruscant to edge-of-the-galaxy-Mustafar before Vader has time to progress from 'on fire' to 'dead from burns'.

Technically he left part-way through the duel "I sense Lord Vader is in danger" - but it is a fairly long trip in a fairly short timeframe.

I will say that J.J. is really good at making movies with lense flares and explosions. I wouldn't mind some climactic space battles and such, which he is good at.
Just stop with the superweapons already, Thrawn would be rolling in his grave if he saw starkiller base.

The final movie will probably have the rebel fleet blasting that giant space ship that Snoke has. Someone will probably say "Thats no moon, its a space [ship]!".

13 minutes ago, FatherTurin said:

you're argument seems to be "if they make more Star Wars movies then they will become just like the Marvel movies." That's just....I don't know, an odd take.

PS: People on a Star Wars forum have to hate Guardians? Lolwhut?

The fact that you and a number of others have (somewhat aggressively, I might add) jumped to Marvel's defense as soon as I said there's a few of the Marvel movies I don't like because of their overly bombastic writing and scale actually kind of proves my point. Companies do what makes money, and if so many of you love the Marvel movies and how they've been handled, my worry is that they'll apply that model to Star Wars as well.

Also, I never said you have to hate Guardians, I said that I don't have to like it.

17 minutes ago, FatherTurin said:

That's like me saying "I hate Disney animated musicals* so if they keep making Star Wars movies everyone will break into song and dance."

As bad as Stormtroopers' aim is, they do seem rather coordinated. I think the Empire could pull off some truly phenomenal dance numbers!

(Now we just need someone to write "Springtime for Palpatine")

4 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

Yes.

Except for how hyperspace works...

Tech has advanced, obviously.

39 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

As bad as Stormtroopers' aim is, they do seem rather coordinated. I think the Empire could pull off some truly phenomenal dance numbers!

(Now we just need someone to write "Springtime for Palpatine")

Winter for yavin and hoth?

edit: I guess the the whole line would be, "It's springtime for Vader and Palpatine, winter for Yavin and Hoth."

(alderaan would work better, but can't fit the syllables in, I'm a lawyer, not a songwriter)

42 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

The fact that you and a number of others have (somewhat aggressively, I might add) jumped to Marvel's defense as soon as I said there's a few of the Marvel movies I don't like because of their overly bombastic writing and scale actually kind of proves my point. Companies do what makes money, and if so many of you love the Marvel movies and how they've been handled, my worry is that they'll apply that model to Star Wars as well.

Also, I never said you have to hate Guardians, I said that I don't have to like it.

I don't want to quibble too much, I was mostly being tongue in cheek, I'm having a sarcastic day :-)

However, I don't recall you mentioning the bombastic writing before (if you did, my bad), and I agree with you there, but that's part of the medium. I just don't think it's a forgone conclusion that it will leach into Star Wars, although there's an argument to be made that bombastic writing has always been a part of Star Wars. It's like one of my friends who absolutely hates Vader's "don't choke on your aspirations" pun and says it is out of character. I point out "apology accepted" and the fact that Vader has always been a sarcastic SOB, and just because it fell flat doesn't mean it's out of character.

Oh, and all due respect, but that is not what you said about Guardians. It may have been your intent, but the words you used were far broader.

Anyway, like I said, I'm in a weird mood today and essentially just launching off on random sarcastic ***********, no harm or offense intended.

Even the best of us have a little troll in us I assume.

Edit: censored word is a synonym for poop-posting.

59 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

As bad as Stormtroopers' aim is, they do seem rather coordinated. I think the Empire could pull off some truly phenomenal dance numbers!

(Now we just need someone to write "Springtime for Palpatine")

1 hour ago, JJ48 said:

As bad as Stormtroopers' aim is, they do seem rather coordinated. I think the Empire could pull off some truly phenomenal dance numbers!

(Now we just need someone to write "Springtime for Palpatine")

Just to keep this in the Mel Brooks wheelhouse:

Wave 14 confirmed:

1 hour ago, Ironlord said:

Technically he left part-way through the duel "I sense Lord Vader is in danger" - but it is a fairly long trip in a fairly short timeframe.

If anyone would have a hyperdrive capable of traveling that fast it would be Palpy.

26 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

"It's great to be in the Empire Today!"

Is anyone else getting a sense of prequel dread? Episode 7 didn't exactly clear it for me.

1 hour ago, JJ48 said:

As bad as Stormtroopers' aim is, they do seem rather coordinated. I think the Empire could pull off some truly phenomenal dance numbers!

(Now we just need someone to write "Springtime for Palpatine")

Google boogie storm, you will. Like it, you must.

7 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

If anyone would have a hyperdrive capable of traveling that fast it would be Palpy.

Yup. Comics-wise, Palpatine had access to pretty much every bit of technology everywhere. In addition, Anakin has hero, villain and unfulfilled prophecy plot armour. There's simply no way for him to die.

As for JJ. I'm not looking forward to it.He botched episode VII with countless glaring plot holes and stupid characters (really analyse the dialogue - they change their moral stance every 20 seconds or so). The only thing the film had going for it was great CGI, and that's not so impressive.

5 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

All I want is for Finn to be the real "main character" of this new Trilogy!

The force clearly awakens in him when he decides to betray the Empire.

JJ I know your reading this.

Please make him become a full on Jedi by Episode 9 and beat the evil Brother and Sister combo of Sith Rey and Sith Kylo.

Finn is the coolest.

Plus, he needs to hookup with Poe.

1 minute ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Plus, he needs to hookup with Poe.

The sequels have an interesting love triangle going.

8 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

The sequels have an interesting love triangle going.

You know it.