Can a ship with Genius drop bomb after execute maneuver if has ion?

"If you are equipped with a bomb that can be dropped when you reveal your maneuver , you may drop the bomb after you execute your maneuver instead."

In my opinion can, because first part of Genius describe only bomb type, so even ship is ionized it steel equipped with bomb that can be dropped when reveal maneuver.

What was the ruling on GenCon or US Natio?

Yes the ship can still drop its bomb when ionized after moving with Genius

If you're still getting hit by a Nym-Genius bomblet whilst Nym is ioned and you know where he'll be when he drops it... You deserve every <hit> and <crit> coming your way.

So I understand the office al ruling on GenCon and Natio was that he can drop?!

Yes. It is the only possible ruling.

1 hour ago, Dydu said:

So I understand the office al ruling on GenCon and Natio was that he can drop?!

I'm not sure that there's been an 'official ruling' because one isn't needed .

Being ionized means you don't reveal a maneuver. Therefore you cannot drop an 'on reveal' bomb on its normal trigger.

Genius gives you a new trigger; 'after you execute your maneuver' which does exist, even if ionized, bumped or whatever, and therefore you can drop the bomb then .

The rule for 'Genius' makes no demands on whether you could have legally dropped a bomb earlier in the turn.

3 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

I'm not sure that there's been an 'official ruling' because one isn't needed .

Being ionized means you don't reveal a maneuver. Therefore you cannot drop an 'on reveal' bomb on its normal trigger.

Genius gives you a new trigger; 'after you execute your maneuver' which does exist, even if ionized, bumped or whatever, and therefore you can drop the bomb then .

The rule for 'Genius' makes no demands on whether you could have legally dropped a bomb earlier in the turn.

^this. Being ionized just means a genius eqiuped ship cant drop a bomb before it does the 1 straight (or any other effect that causes manuvers without reveal on activation for that matter).

3 hours ago, Ralgon said:

^this. Being ionized just means a genius eqiuped ship cant drop a bomb before it does the 1 straight (or any other effect that causes manuvers without reveal on activation for that matter).

Still though it shuts Nym down pretty hard. No more advanced sensors or any other shenanigans!

9 hours ago, DR4CO said:

Yes. It is the only possible ruling.

I'm not sold on it being the only possible ruling.

I can see it being rule that Genius delays the normal bomb drop after revealing the dial from before the ship performs the maneuver to after the ship performs the maneuver. Why does this matter? Because if there is no dial revealed then there is no trigger that would allow the bomb to be dropped at all. It may not be the popular ruling but it is one that does make sense in many ways.

6 hours ago, StevenO said:

I'm not sold on it being the only possible ruling.

I can see it being rule that Genius delays the normal bomb drop after revealing the dial from before the ship performs the maneuver to after the ship performs the maneuver. Why does this matter? Because if there is no dial revealed then there is no trigger that would allow the bomb to be dropped at all. It may not be the popular ruling but it is one that does make sense in many ways.

No it really does not "make sense in many ways", Genius does not need a dial to be reveled to drop.

Do what the card says not what it does not say.

7 hours ago, StevenO said:

I'm not sold on it being the only possible ruling.

I can see it being rule that Genius delays the normal bomb drop after revealing the dial from before the ship performs the maneuver to after the ship performs the maneuver. Why does this matter? Because if there is no dial revealed then there is no trigger that would allow the bomb to be dropped at all. It may not be the popular ruling but it is one that does make sense in many ways.

Does deadeye require you to still have a target lock if you have a lock/focus and someone uses countermeasures? Because that's the kind of thing you're arguing.

It may not be RAI but it is RAW

Alas, if only genius had the sentence, "You may drop a bomb even if you did not reveal a maneuver."

Exactly. You're not 'delaying it', you're dropping it at a different trigger point. If the card said 'you may delay dropping it', then you'd be correct - because the card would be triggering off the original trigger (reveal a maneuver) but not resolving until later in the turn, in the same way I'll Show You The Dark Side is triggered by Kylo but doesn't actually resolve until someone lands a critical on the target.

It doesn't. It provides a trigger "after you execute your maneuver" which still exists, and does not insist on anything specific happening earlier in the turn.

There are several ways you could execute a manoeuvre without ever revealing it - Ion tokens, Daredevil, Adaptive Ailerons (no way a ship with bombs and/or genius could have this one, but included for completeness).