I know that the Chimera print was on the bottom of Thrawn's ISD, but was it on the top?
Not complaining, but I may repaint the top. 
Chimera paint job on top?
4 minutes ago, OrangeCat said:I know that the Chimera print was on the bottom of Thrawn's ISD, but was it on the top?
Not complaining, but I may repaint the top.
There hasn\t been a really good picture of it thusfar to tell.
ALSO, edit incoming. I have a bunch of Screenshots.
5 of the 6 Star Destroyers at Attalon:
Chimaera is not a Lead ISD, it is one of the Trailers... You can (just) make out the Marking on the left (its hard with the contrast, but its there, and its darker):
The Holoviewer doesn't mark Chimaera any differently with a Top View:
Second Battle, Strugging to make out which one is Chimaera here:
You get some wonderful shots of Chimaera's underside markings as the Ghost flies under it... But that's just it. It flies under it, and then comes up next to, and passes between two other star Destroyers.
Unfortunately, the whole chase seen is, of course, cut with internal views of the cockpits with the characters, rathern tahn giving us a flightpath...
We are lead to believe that the ISD in the DISTANCE is Chimaera, assuming that the Ghost flew completely under it, and exited effectly astern under the Engines, before swooping up between the other two ISDs.
It is also possible that the Star Destroyer on the very right of frame is the Chimaera as well, but you can't tell wether that's just the way its being Lit, or because there is the White Chimaera Markings on it.
So...
We're still inconclusive.
I'm going to try to pick out one or two other episodes where we know the Chimaera itself is in attendance.
If its not on the top in canon, it still makes sense FFG put it there. The special print would be rather useless when you never see the undersides of ships in game.
Paint it over if you want, I just think that's rather silly to do unless you plan on buying multiples. The print is what makes this ISD special otherwise it's just a darker paint of the curgent ISD.
Edited by Forresto1 hour ago, Forresto said:If its not on the top in canon, it still makes sense FFG put it there. The special print would be rather useless when you never see the undersides of ships in game.
Not useless... More like if they didn't put it on top there wouldn't be any difference between Chimera and the first ISD expansions while on the battlefield and from a sales perspective that would be a no no... Therefore, they had to make the expansion different in an immediately recognizable way. They could have done this by making an ISD I model(we have ISD II model already) such as the Chimera is, or put the Chimera markings on top... They chose the latter, though I wish it had been the former.
I just can't get on with those long neck ISDs. Ergh.
6 minutes ago, ISD Avenger said:I just can't get on with those long neck ISDs. Ergh.
They really don't bother me.
They still look like Star Destroyers.
They are the Star Destroyers my Star-Wars Loving Son has grown up with.
Honestly, I've now seen the more than I've seen the originals. They simply don't bother me, because essentially, I never see them actually side-by side.
Given the difference of the Media as well, well, I never will have to see them side by side... So I just got used to the stylistic choice through exposure.
Giraffe ISDs don't bother me much (though I'd still take original ISDs over them), but the stubby-winged TIEs on Rebels look ridiculous IMO. Original TIEs are evil butterflies that scream like banshees. Rebels TIEs are like awkward 1/2-pound dumbbells... that scream like banshees.
Thank god the long neck ISDS are meant to be ISD Is. I'd eat my hat if they were any more then a stylistic choice for the animation.
31 minutes ago, Forresto said:Thank god the long neck ISDS are meant to be ISD Is. I'd eat my hat if they were any more then a stylistic choice for the animation.
I mean, if you really want to get technical, then they appear as more of a hybrid between the two.
They retain the increased height sensor dome of the ISD-I as an obvious feature.
But shown at the Bombardment of Atollon, they also have the ISD-II style Quad-Battery mounts for their Dorsal gun batteries...
But essentially, it is just a stylistic choice - and a choice that's aimed at people who, for better or for worse, see a Star Destroyer as a Star Destroyer and don't nitpick on the details.
41 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:I mean, if you really want to get technical, then they appear as more of a hybrid between the two.
They retain the increased height sensor dome of the ISD-I as an obvious feature.
But shown at the Bombardment of Atollon, they also have the ISD-II style Quad-Battery mounts for their Dorsal gun batteries...
Tractor beam targeting array is what's increased in height. The sensor/shield generator domes are pretty standard ISD-II ones.
I'd say that most of the features of the Rebels ISD (the shape of the engines, the long neck, the shape of the waist trench) are nods to McQuarrie's art - the same with the proportionally smaller TIE wings.
Just now, Ironlord said:Tractor beam targeting array is what's increased in height. The sensor/shield generator domes are pretty standard ISD-II ones.
I'd say that most of the features of the Rebels ISD (the shape of the engines, the long neck, the shape of the waist trench) are nods to McQuarrie's art - the same with the proportionally smaller TIE wings.
I always thought the thing between the Shields were the Sensors, but hey, if I'm wrong, by all means, I'll stand (or sit) Corrected...
That thingy-bit-standy-uppy-part-more-standy-uppy-than-the-ISD-II-because-its-recessed-on-that-one Bit.
In order to make the ISD-Is in TESB look a bit more like ISD-IIs - I'm told they took that component and rotated it - laying it flat between the domes instead of standing up.
Edited by Ironlord
Regarding the print on the Chimaera: Whether the print is on the top or not on Rebels shouldn't matter. It doesn't mean it was never there or never will be there. My 2 cents
For the star wars universe it makes sense to be on the bottom. When the are close to a planet to instill fear to those below. If FFG just put it on the bottom it would be silly. You cannot see it at all. This way at least you can put it on the table and know from site that this is the thrawn special.
3 hours ago, axe238 said:Regarding the print on the Chimaera: Whether the print is on the top or not on Rebels shouldn't matter. It doesn't mean it was never there or never will be there. My 2 cents
No. I mean, kinda... but it was a search for canonical reference.
its like saying the Chimeara, listed in reference officially as an ISD-1 in the canon, doesn't matter if it's and ISD-2 because there is no reference that it ever was not or never will not be ?
The VAST majority of fans couldn't spot the difference between a ISD1 and an ISD2. They simply wouldn't know. I'd be the majority of Armada players don't know the differences. To do an entirely new sculpt (expensive process) for something like that would be wasted effort.
Painting it on the top of the model just makes sense. You don't see the bottom of the models in gameplay.
I honestly didn't even notice the long neck issue in Rebels for the first season. It wasn't until someone pointed it out that I even started noticing it. From most angles it looks ok, but now that people point it out, I can't unsee it. While watching the show, it doesn't bother me. In still pictures I don't care for it.
Given that the Chimaera in Legends had proton torpedoes, the best way to represent it in Armada would be, not ISD-I or ISD-II, but Kuat Refit.
Sorry, I was rationalising which is different than seeking confirmation. I do like it better on both sides. It just seems more complete. But that's opinion now. ?
17 hours ago, Drasnighta said:ALSO, edit incoming. I have a bunch of Screenshots.
17 hours ago, Drasnighta said:There hasn\t been a really good picture of it thusfar to tell.
Thank you for the responses. I just wasn't sure I'd seen a clear shot of the top, thought it was just me. I have seen the episodes where the emblem is clear on the bottom, and yes, someone with quadnocs looking up at the thing would be probably mutter "This can't be good.".
I will leave it on my model. I'm actually leaning towards buying two to have copies of the cards and Madolorians within. The extra ISD Chimera... I'm actually thinking of finally trying my hand at a "bone white", Rogue One paint-job.
It can be my other "hero" ISD.
6 hours ago, kmanweiss said:The VAST majority of fans couldn't spot the difference between a ISD1 and an ISD2. They simply wouldn't know. I'd be the majority of Armada players don't know the differences. To do an entirely new sculpt (expensive process) for something like that would be wasted effort.
Painting it on the top of the model just makes sense. You don't see the bottom of the models in gameplay.
I honestly didn't even notice the long neck issue in Rebels for the first season. It wasn't until someone pointed it out that I even started noticing it. From most angles it looks ok, but now that people point it out, I can't unsee it. While watching the show, it doesn't bother me. In still pictures I don't care for it.
Furthermore, they actually look more streamlined than the OT ones. Being CGI, and with the long necks, they don't look as compact as some images make the other star destroyers to be, such as here:
and here:
as compared to the Rebels one:
and:
(where actually the neck doesn't look so bad)
Imperial Giraffe Cruiser.....
1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:
See, thats not our star destroyer...
Edited by Zeoinx*gasp* artistic license?! Not in the sci-fi fandoms!!
2 minutes ago, Zeoinx said:Imperial Giraffe Cruiser.....
See, thats not our star destroyer...
And, well, here's the deal.
Its not supposed to be your Star Destroyer. Or my Star Destroyer. Or our Star Destroyer.
It is the Star Destroyer of the Generation that are growing up and learning about Star Wars, now.
It is the future Generation's Star Destroyer, with a nod to the concept art past that will intrigue the historical scholar in some of them.