My takeaways from Wave XIII announcement

By Celestial Lizards, in X-Wing

7 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

Yeah because Whisper was never a thing.

And before you start on 4 attack dice: Kylo has pre-nerf-phantom repositioning with Advanced Sensors, double action and autothrusters. Which puts his defense on a similar level. And less attack dice creep is definitely good for the game.

Last time i checked, Whisper was 32 points. Fully built he cost 40 pts. 41-42 if you add a small crew. And yeah, that 4th atck dice is worth a lot of pts. If Kylo was 4 dices i would gladly take the 35 pts cost. Even up to 37 would have been fine with me.

Kylo base cost is 3 pts more and fully built we will be looking at 45-48 pts (another ship with very limited building options...). Thats a huge difference. At 32 base he would be close to Quickdraw. It's too early to say if hes as good (certainly not better) but at least the cost would make much more sense.

Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) — TIE Silencer 35
Push the Limit 3
Advanced Sensors 3
Primed Thrusters 1
Autothrusters 2
First Order Vanguard 2
Ship Total: 46

or

Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) — TIE Silencer 35
Intensity 2
Advanced Sensors 3
Primed Thrusters 1
Autothrusters 2
First Order Vanguard 2
Ship Total: 45

or

Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) — TIE Silencer 35
Expertise 4
Advanced Sensors 3
Pattern Analyzer 2
Autothrusters 2
First Order Vanguard 2
Ship Total: 48

And like you said, Whisper WAS a thing... :)

Ive commented on this preview to much already. Ill just wait until one month after release and come back to ask what all the original naysayers had to say. I could have done that with Nym, Lowrisk, the Aggressor, the rebel fighter, the Tie Striker and the upsi shuttle but i remained a nice gentleman :) Most of the time its not hard to guess how good a ship is as soon as its previewed. My only hope is for an amazing "savior" upgrade in the cards that were not previewed. We already know there is not "imperial only" card in the xpac so the chances are not that high.

My take on it is the E-Wing needs a major overhaul! The Silencer is a better ship in every way, and is less points. (PS9 Kylo and PS8 Corran have an equal squad cost.)

Bombs have been around since when?

Okay lets go back to torpedoes, back in wave 1 they were total point sinks, it wasn't until wave 9 nerfherders started to cry like a slapped jar jar.

So now bombs which have been mostly ignored for the past ten waves. Now they are good, now nerfherders are crying.

Please put in more bombs, turrets, and jumpmasters I want these nerfherders to make like a gungun and hide in a swamp.

I mean, Corran has regen, but...I think I still agree with you on that.

For the record, though, anyone who thinks that Kylo with Advanced Sensors and PtL or VI isn't going to be monstrously powerful needs to go and try playing against 49 Corran with ships that are lower PS than him. Looking at the Silencer, I think two things: 1) thank god the Imperials get something good and 2) yeah, we'd better get more bombs if we're gonna deal with that thing...