1 hour ago, Vineheart01 said:

Thats still the only reason im pissed about that.

The stolen tie is a thing, i get it. They were bound to give it to the rebels since the show is popular and its something they can do fairly easy. Giving it an illicit was fine since its a scummy b- er i mean Sabine with questionable allegiances that took it. WHY THE **** DOES IT HAVE A CREW?!

If a freakin TIE Fighter, the SMALLEST TIE of them all that has a pilot, how the **** does the Silencer, Punisher, Bomber, SF, or Gunship not have one?

#ffghatesimps

This.

Well typed ?

1 hour ago, MegaSilver said:

Because, as always, the Tie/SFs crew member is dedicated to working the back guns. That's his only job. Crew in this game represents crew that can actually do other things other than man the guns.

Come on now....who mans the guns in the Millennium Falcon? the Outrider? I think both the SF and the Striker should'a had one; at least the Striker should have a bomb slot ?

1 minute ago, Velvetelvis said:

I keep trying to reload the pre order page...but it keeps saying a single small base ship is thirty bucks.

Who do we contact to let them know there's an error on the website?

If you look at the package, it likely isn't an error.

1 minute ago, MegaSilver said:

Guys guys, I"m pretty sure this launch mechanic is like the one found in the Imp Vet Pack. Which makes it effectively a 3 straight from the front, instead.

I'm somewhat curious if this gives Deathrain a defacto 3-straight out the back bomb drop as well

1 minute ago, Sithborg said:

If you look at the package, it likely isn't an error.

Yeah it's wierd...it keeps showing a single small base ship in a big box.likenthet just photoshopped it into a big box and some prankster changed the price to 30.

This must be the infamous " error in every preview" error.

3 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

Oh, I was plenty excited about the silencer. I think it lame to give Kylo Ren PS9 now, another upgrade of PS, but whatever. I can do a repaint, print myself a Maarek Stele card and be happy to finally have my Avenger ;-)

Besides, did you miss all the excitement the gunboat got? The main issue here is that it is TFA content. Which does excite people less than Clone Wars content would. It not causing any big emotions, neither positive nor negative.

The bomber looks cool, but I'm not much for one heavy bomber styles of play. So I'll admit that I'm less excited about that one (still an interesting ship though).

I'm far more excited for the TIE Silencer. The repositioning ability on that thing is going to be insane, and the stats are really nice. It's a little pricey, I'll admit. But I'll have to play it and see if it makes up its points during a game. Kylo Ren's going to outfly and outmaneuver almost everything with the actions and the upgrades the Silencer has access to. I can't wait to fly that ship.

The TIE Silencer looks really cool to boot.

2 minutes ago, clanofwolves said:

This.

Well typed ?

Come on now....who mans the guns in the Millennium Falcon? the Outrider? I think both the SF and the Striker should'a had one; at least the Striker should have a bomb slot ?

Millennium Falcon: Luke, Leia, Chewie, C3PO, R2D on board, they they are not yet full. So Chewie flies, Leia plays the copilot, Han and Luke are in the turrets and C-3PO and R2-D2 are the crew lots. Seems correct ;-)

58 minutes ago, Squark said:

K-wing has a pilot, two turret operators, and a bombadier (the crew slot

Arc-170 has a pilot, tail gunner, and a sysop for recon (The crew)

Scurg has a pilot, gunner, and bombadier (the crew. Num automated the Havoc with Astromechs, hence why the title removes a crew slot). There is a very, very good reason why each of these ships have crew.

Then wheres the Striker's crew? they have a bombadier.
Oh wait, they didnt give them the bomb theyre suppose to have so they dont have a bombadier. (which technically strengthens the point that it should have a crew since now the crew isnt busy)

1 minute ago, Derpzilla88 said:

The TIE Silencer looks really cool to boot.

The design is cool, maybe even better than the Avenger, it the first first order ship which I find visually more pleasing based on geometry than the ship it is based on.

BUT the paint job is for emos, the pilot is an emo, and I am in general a friendly, happy person who just wants to crush his enemies under imperial boots. So PS9 Kylo Ren rubs me really the wrong way. It a pure marketing move as well, because they want something to show for before the movie releases. But hey, maybe they got inside information and the true talent of Kylo is actually not the force, nor the lightsaber, nor leadership, strategy, deception, but flying spaceships. Who knows, maybe FFG gets lucky and he really is the second coming of Soontir Fel.

5 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Then wheres the Striker's crew? they have a bombadier.
Oh wait, they didnt give them the bomb theyre suppose to have so they dont have a bombadier. (which technically strengthens the point that it should have a crew since now the crew isnt busy)

I assume the striker doesn't have a crew or bomb slot because FFG had no communication with the folks who wrote the tech book, and thus the two teams had different visions of what the striker did. But that's an old argument.

So I guess the answer to where the Striker's bomb and crew slots are is, "Right next to the U-wing's 2 dice aux arc in the land of what could have been".

Just now, SEApocalypse said:

The design is cool, maybe even better than the Avenger, it the first first order ship which I find visually more pleasing based on geometry than the ship it is based on.

BUT the paint job is for emos, the pilot is an emo, and I am in general a friendly, happy person who just wants to crush his enemies under imperial boots. So PS9 Kylo Ren rubs me really the wrong way. It a pure marketing move as well, because they want something to show for before the movie releases. But hey, maybe they got inside information and the true talent of Kylo is actually not the force, nor the lightsaber, nor leadership, strategy, deception, but flying spaceships. Who knows, maybe FFG gets lucky and he really is the second coming of Soontir Fel.

I mean he's got PS9 piloting talent on both sides of his family, it's not particularly unreasonable that he's PS9 when flying an space superiority fighter. The generics are PS4 and PS6, ya know?

1 minute ago, RampancyTW said:

I mean he's got PS9 piloting talent on both sides of his family, it's not particularly unreasonable that he's PS9 when flying an space superiority fighter. The generics are PS4 and PS6, ya know?

He has two chosen ones in his family as well, he still sucks donkey balls in VII and that was intentionally. FFG gave him already PS8 in the shuttle. They just decided that they want him at PS9, which smells not only as power creep, but is (yet) utterly undeserved.

If we see next month an amazing pilot, and I totally fall in love with the character THEN I don't mind him PS9. Until then I will hate him and most likely repaint his card with this:

17 minutes ago, RampancyTW said:

I'm somewhat curious if this gives Deathrain a defacto 3-straight out the back bomb drop as well

Launching =/= dropping. There will probably be no synergy with Deathrain.

Because of course there won't be synergy with a dude whose entire MO is dropping freaking bombs.

Just now, SEApocalypse said:

He has two chosen ones in his family as well, he still sucks donkey balls in VII and that was intentionally. FFG gave him already PS8 in the shuttle. They just decided that they want him at PS9, which smells not only as power creep, but is (yet) utterly undeserved.

If we see next month an amazing pilot, and I totally fall in love with the character THEN I don't mind him PS9. Until then I will hate him and most likely repaint his card with this:

What do you mean he "sucks donkey balls in VII"? He's not really in any piloting scenarios, and the ship he's flying is a total brick.

28 minutes ago, Sithborg said:

The SF seems to be doing well. Now, just imagine a more maneuverable SF. With a cheaper version of Predator that doesn't eat into you EPT.

Well, but not great. Plus a nicely kitted out QuickDraw is one point more than a naked Kylo. And that's with an upgrade that opens up the SF dial.

I'm not reading 8 pages of forums for to see if it's already been said but, in order of least to most impact:

1. FFG seems to have finally given the right pilot skills to an interceptor pack 4, 6, 7 and 9. I'll bet all of them have an EPT, too.
2. Rattled seems solid, and is just going to stack with Sabine, inevitably.
3. All double- bomb slot bombers just got a huge boost with ordnance silos, particularly wardens, but also Punishers (Scurrg = Nym = Bomblet)
4. Sabine's probably gonna be huge.
5. The big one: Nym can take Trajectory Simulator. Nym. Can take. Trajectory simulator. Sure, it's a buff to Punishers which they desperately need, but it's insanity on Nym.

8 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

...Who knows, maybe FFG gets lucky and he really is the second coming of our lord and saviour, Golden Rod.

Fixed it for ya

2 hours ago, Qualitypunk said:

Kylo Ren is the pilot I need to complete a Red Blades list with Inquisitor and Vader

Respect for fluffly fun list. I was thinking the same.

1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:

Launching =/= dropping. There will probably be no synergy with Deathrain.

Because of course there won't be synergy with a dude whose entire MO is dropping freaking bombs.

Depends, if launching works like it does in the veterans xpack mission, then when he drops out the front, the 5-straight will send it 3s behind his starting position.

I'm sad for a different reason! All this system and tech slot stuff isn't going to up my HotAC game much!

The bomb-flinging looks hella fun to me, though I wish it had come before bombs got so broke.

E: I think deathrain might work - if the launch goes 1 out the back, then five forwards, deathrain should be able to chuck it 1 out front /then 5 more/ right?

3 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Launching =/= dropping. There will probably be no synergy with Deathrain.

Because of course there won't be synergy with a dude whose entire MO is dropping freaking bombs.

Depends on if "Instead of dropping" is a replacement effect.

1 minute ago, RampancyTW said:

What do you mean he "sucks donkey balls in VII"? He's not really in any piloting scenarios, and the ship he's flying is a total brick.

I mean at everything he does. As I said, I don't rule out that he actually is a great pilot, we did see him only as a leader, force user and with a lightsaber. He sucked at all of that, but **** was he resilient. I would be HAPPY if he is actually good at something other than getting shot.

3 minutes ago, Astech said:

5. The big one: Nym can take Trajectory Simulator. Nym. Can take. Trajectory simulator. Sure, it's a buff to Punishers which they desperately need, but it's insanity on Nym.

Nym can take Trajectory Simulator... instead of Advance Sensors or Accuracy Correcters. It will be a build, but it wont be the same builds we've come to fear.

2 minutes ago, Astech said:

I'm not reading 8 pages of forums for to see if it's already been said but, in order of least to most impact:

1. FFG seems to have finally given the right pilot skills to an interceptor pack 4, 6, 7 and 9. I'll bet all of them have an EPT, too.
2. Rattled seems solid, and is just going to stack with Sabine, inevitably.
3. All double- bomb slot bombers just got a huge boost with ordnance silos, particularly wardens, but also Punishers (Scurrg = Nym = Bomblet)
4. Sabine's probably gonna be huge.
5. The big one: Nym can take Trajectory Simulator. Nym. Can take. Trajectory simulator. Sure, it's a buff to Punishers which they desperately need, but it's insanity on Nym.

Fixed it for ya

3 - Nope, it's ship-restricted.

5 - And he loses his Advanced Sensors to do it, so you know the only place it can end up before setting your dials.

Advanced Optics is obvious Comm Relay for focus by what's visible, I'm looking forward to trying that out on some things though.

5 minutes ago, Astech said:

3. All double- bomb slot bombers just got a huge boost with ordnance silos, particularly wardens, but also Punishers (Scurrg = Nym = Bomblet)

Read you must: B/SF-17 only

Just now, Rakaydos said:

Nym can take Trajectory Simulator... instead of Advance Sensors or Accuracy Correcters. It will be a build, but it wont be the same builds we've come to fear.

He can also use it with genius, so now, I believe, his death-zone is up to around range 7. It's going to be different, certainly, but terrifying nonetheless.

2 minutes ago, Polaritie said:

5 - And he loses his Advanced Sensors to do it, so you know the only place it can end up before setting your dials.

Depends on if Trajectory Simulator runs on Geinus.