TIE Silencer and Rebel B/sf-17 preview up

By HolySorcerer, in X-Wing

1 minute ago, jonnyd said:

We know its based on the size of the box, but holy **** that's crazy. $40 for the bomber? (ghost sized box) $30 for a small base ship? Dayum!
So much for me buying 2 of everything... may have to stick to only 1 of each of these. But I am pretty excited to fly Kylo with RAC.

Allow me to make the suggestion that you go with Kylo crew instead. RAC + Kylo leaves you in a weird spot for points, whereas he's an amazing crew for RAC.

2 minutes ago, jonnyd said:

We know its based on the size of the box, but holy **** that's crazy. $40 for the bomber? (ghost sized box) $30 for a small base ship? Dayum!
So much for me buying 2 of everything... may have to stick to only 1 of each of these. But I am pretty excited to fly Kylo with RAC.

Ghost is $50. This is Hound's Tooth or Decimator sized box.

Why is there a base plate for a Lt. Pilot "Blacksomething" but no pilot card for it?

Edit.. Oh.. I see now..

Edited by Rinzler in a Tie
18 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

TIE Silencer is looking interesting. Expensive, but interesting. Gonna enjoy playing with that bad boy.

the Bomber...let's just say it may be a pass from me. *sigh* I wanted that A-Wing.

It looked like a normal a wing

1 minute ago, HolySorcerer said:

Allow me to make the suggestion that you go with Kylo crew instead. RAC + Kylo leaves you in a weird spot for points, whereas he's an amazing crew for RAC.

Already flew that with Soontir :) I can free up 5 points by pitching the dauntless title that I won't need anymore for Kylo effect, and Kylo crew. 4 hull and 2 shields is pretty tempting on a PTL PS9 Kylo.

Can we called the Resistance Bomber the Space Guppy:

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Just now, Rogue_Group1 said:

It looked like a normal a wing

There are several set pictures of it out there. Comparing it to regular A-Wings show a couple of key differences. Not a lot, but enough.

2 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Resistance Bomber is such an odd seeming ship. Primary only 2 dice, no secondary weapons, and an odd bomb loadout with either two solitary bombs (Bomblets), or one bomb with super-Extra Munitions. It doesn't get crew, so many of the best support options are gone. FCS + Targeting Synchronizer would work, but that seems... expensive for how little it'd accomplish on it's own. Maybe there's other new stuff which will make it seem like it does something.

Trajectory Simulator looks fun on Deathrain, though. Toss those 5-speed bombs out there. With a 1-forward, you ought to remain out of range.

Trajectory Simulator instead of FCS, Targeting Synchronizer for the Tech slot, and then Ordinance Silos with whatever non-action bomb you choose. This makes the bomber a support ship. It uses its own action to lock on, but then lets another ship use that lock. The bomber's PWT is more of a "take a pot shot simply because you can" option. The real weapon is the ability to fling bombs around.

At least, I'm assuming when it says "launch bombs... instead of dropping them" it means that you use the 5-straight template out the front instead of the back. Otherwise it would say "you may use the 5-straight template when dropping bombs", similar to Bombardier.

3 minutes ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

Why is there a base plate for a Lt. Pilot "Blacksomething" but no pilot card for it?

I think that says, "Te. Pilot "Blackout"."

My thoughts:

Rebel bomber feels kinda pointless. There's literally nothing he can do that Nym wouldn't do better. Nym's got better firepower, probably better survivability, higher PS and can delay bombs. Also, lack of crew slot means that you'd need to team this thing with Miranda and it would still be worse than Miranda/Nym.

HOWEVER, with this expansion Nym will get the much needed buff. Why bother with spending 3 points on Adv.Sensors when for just 1 point you can drop your bomblets halfway across the map? What the F*** are the devs thinking? It's seriously beyond me.

As for Silencer, it would have been a great ship... a year ago. Now I don't think he would survive the bomb onslaught so unless something is done to adress it, I don't see bright future ahead of him. HOWEVER, it seems he will have both PTL-worthy dial AND Advanced Sensors slot on top of having free re-rolls. He will also cost as much as pimped up Corran with no double attacks and no regen though, so that's something to consider. Then again, green hard turns and AdvS? I mean, Brobots can do wonders with PTL and AdvS with large base and no hard greens. That ship's gonna dance like a ballerina when used by a skilled player.

3 minutes ago, jonnyd said:

Already flew that with Soontir :) I can free up 5 points by pitching the dauntless title that I won't need anymore for Kylo effect, and Kylo crew. 4 hull and 2 shields is pretty tempting on a PTL PS9 Kylo.

I like him with ATC Vader, though sometimes I feel bad about all the darkside I end up showing.

It's a bit early to call the Silencer DOA, but it had better have an insane dial for that point range and lack of upgrades.

Edited by HolySorcerer
9 minutes ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

Oh don't get me wrong - the ship is garbage and I'll be the !@#$^ that says it - DOA.
PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG SO I CAN GO BACK TO PLAYING IMPERIALS.

Edit: Self-censoring so I don't get more warning points...

Dont get me wrong i suspect it will be deadly. But...

1) Again, lack of options. Again, imps get a ship that will be strictly flown in 1 single way forever and ever, only changed when a "replacement" card shows up (or a title that adds a slot)
2) It breaks the mid-costs mentality of imp ships. Kylo will be 42pts with FCS+PA+Autos+VI, we dont like running ships higher than 39 because then it kicks out the good 24-26pt ships such as Sabaac as our third ship.

He is our only ship breaking 40pts that actually is worth the cost on his own right. Meaning fighting him a buddy (or two cheap buddies) will be difficult.

Can we take this moment to recognize how bankrupt of new ideas the current franchise designers are?

"So we need, like, a new ship for the good guys...like, a big ship, say something like a B-17, but SciFi. Ideas?"

How about we call it...the B/SF-17?

"GREAT IDEA GAVYN! Yeah, let's run with that - what else we got?"

1 minute ago, Darth Meanie said:

Can we called the Resistance Bomber the Space Guppy:

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Armada has already laid claim to the space guppy

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8 minutes ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

I have my theories that these prices support - but I get the pitch-fork treatment when I say it out loud.

Now you need to tell us

I'm not sure FCS+Pattern Analyzer is the best choice for Kylo. Advanced sensors with boost and barrel roll will dodge any bomb unless it was dropped on you or directly in front of you and parallel. Comms Relay and Advanced Optics are both worth considering for an Arc dodger as well- And Advanced sensors does 95% of what Pattern Analyzer does while still doing more, in any case. The title is pretty heavy on the conditions, though. I mean, It's nice to have a title you don't always want to include, but the anti-synergy with target locks and being forced to re-roll all of your green dice hurts.

No representation for BB-9E feels like a glaring omission, but perhaps the little guy wasn't in the information FFG got, sort of like how the striker doesn't have the crew+bomb slot the tech book suggests it should have.

Edited by Squark
Forgot PTL does actually do something with Pattern Analyzer
Just now, duder said:

Now you need to tell us

They're closing out the saga that was X-Wing.
Mass-production of old product to pack shelves for the long winter and spewing new ships out while the hype is real because they're auto-buy for a lot of us.

8 minutes ago, Kharnete said:

Somebody helps me. Didn't we have an expansion with a method for bombing (for a mission or something) in the pamphlet where you did drop a dial bomb as usual *and then* it would move 5 forward? Which expansion was that? Does anyone have it at hand? How it was called? Launch? If that's the case, we already know how it will be done.

Alright, found it. It's from the Imperial Veterans mission, and here's the picture they made for the article.

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Maybe the "Launch" will work like this? I actually used that for Aturi and it was fun.

3 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

Dont get me wrong i suspect it will be deadly. But...

1) Again, lack of options. Again, imps get a ship that will be strictly flown in 1 single way forever and ever, only changed when a "replacement" card shows up (or a title that adds a slot)
2) It breaks the mid-costs mentality of imp ships. Kylo will be 42pts with FCS+PA+Autos+VI, we dont like running ships higher than 39 because then it kicks out the good 24-26pt ships such as Sabaac as our third ship.

He is our only ship breaking 40pts that actually is worth the cost on his own right. Meaning fighting him a buddy (or two cheap buddies) will be difficult.

Yeah, I cannot wrap my head around the point cost. This thing is going to die so fast to bombs and bad green dice that it will never warrant 45 points.
Those hidden upgrade cards better be amazing -- BUT THEY'RE NOT IMPERIAL ONLY SO SCUM GETS THEM, OF COURSE.
FFS, FFG...

The "launch" is ambiguous.

It sounds like use front guides, but it doesnt actually say that. Far as we know its literally drop a bomb with a 5 template instead of a 1

Deathrain will still use front guides though...gonna have fun with that. Is it sad thats literally the only thing making me go "oooo!" in this article is something gimicky for a punisher? lol

edit: if it does use front guides to launch them, WTF were they thinking? They literally gave Deathrain's ability to Nym on steroids (or any bomber for that matter) and its tailor-made to work with bombletts due to the "no action header" blip

Edited by Vineheart01
14 minutes ago, RufusDaMan said:

Same place where the bomb icon is from the striker

And the crew icon on the TIE/sf. But don't worry, FFG will give a crew slot to the regular TIE Fighter when they give away our most iconic ship to the ******* rebels, because reasons.

Advanced Optics?
Looks like Comm Relay for Focus tokens!

God, so many of you have made this place unenjoyable.

3 minutes ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

They're closing out the saga that was X-Wing.
Mass-production of old product to pack shelves for the long winter and spewing new ships out while the hype is real because they're auto-buy for a lot of us.

So in your world, when a company makes new products and sells a lot of old ones as well, in a time when that product is hyped beyond imagination, is a clear sign that they are going to close shop?

Before folks get too concerned about the prices, I'd like to point out that these are the first $30 and $40 single-ship packs we've had since Wave 10. Wave 11 was all small-ships, and everything else they introduced for wave 12 was also that size.